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6 hours ago, erkayloomeh said:

Not to mention he's presenting one verse in a whole chapter, and presenting it out of context. Is that intentional to make the bible look bad? 

I simply quoted verses out of a book you stated you believe completely in. 

 

Please put someone raping your wife after you marry her into context for me ?

 

I treasure all books.

I read voraciously. 

 

However I think critically about the information those books contain.

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7 hours ago, Ilunga said:

That would make for an interesting study.

Take MRI scans of let's say 1000 religious people,1000 agnostics and 1000 atheists and see if/are the different parts of the brain wired differently,ie how strong are the neural connections to the cerebrum.

some certainly do experience a drug-like euphoria. That kind of thing has been reported for a long time from ethnographic studies and recent ones too: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-effect-brain-drugs-mormon-utah-reward-centre-nucleus-accumbens-a7446301.html

 

It doesn't mean that they are "wrong" in their beliefs, just kind of an interesting effect there. 

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16 hours ago, drummer4now said:

because anything pagan is not considered to be associated with Christ or Christianity. 

 

this is an interesting thread to pull on. I think it speaks to people not really looking into where a lot of Christian symbolism comes from.

 

Jospeh Campbell has some good info on the history of symbols in Christianity: https://www.learnoutloud.com/Free-Audio-Video/Religion-and-Spirituality/Christianity/Christian-Symbols-and-Ideas/90552

 

Also a lot of stuff on comparative mythology. Things like the flood, virgin birth, etc. are not unique to Christianity. He's got some really interesting lectures online.

 

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6 hours ago, JM_ said:

some certainly do experience a drug-like euphoria. That kind of thing has been reported for a long time from ethnographic studies and recent ones too: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/religious-effect-brain-drugs-mormon-utah-reward-centre-nucleus-accumbens-a7446301.html

 

It doesn't mean that they are "wrong" in their beliefs, just kind of an interesting effect there. 

People that undergo Ketamine treatment often describe it as a spiritual experience. It's actually quite strange as a lot of these experiences are similar over many patients. 

 

In the pseudoscience world, a thing called the god helmet apparently provides a similar experience.

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13 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

People that undergo Ketamine treatment often describe it as a spiritual experience. It's actually quite strange as a lot of these experiences are similar over many patients. 

 

In the pseudoscience world, a thing called the god helmet apparently provides a similar experience.

never heard of that one - just looked it up. Thats pretty fascinating. 

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10 hours ago, bishopshodan said:

People that undergo Ketamine treatment often describe it as a spiritual experience. It's actually quite strange as a lot of these experiences are similar over many patients. 

 

In the pseudoscience world, a thing called the god helmet apparently provides a similar experience.

 

I remember reading this article when I first joined this forum and the God thread was going strong.

 

http://www.ajnr.org/content/32/10/1767

 

The article mentions that epilepsy has links to religious experiences.

 

Further research

 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/archived/encounter/the-link-between-temporal-lobe-epilepsy-and-mysticism/5956982

 

 

The Quest for knowledge,understanding and self awareness is a continual journey.

 

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