wai_lai416 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 this is not even a realistic question. no GM will ever retain 35% of a 10mil+ contract just to sign another 9mil+ contract and then add the 3.5-4mil on top in retention lol unless you are giving them like 2-3 1st rounders on top 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Iron Fist said: no, probably matthews to arizona for Keller/Chychrun and 2 firsts and 4 seconds, seems like thats whats arizona might be up to Actually what Arizona is up to is completely rebuilding their team from scratch, with 31 draft picks over the next 3 years and over $52 million in cap space next summer. They can wait 3 years and sign Matthews as a UFA for free... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 If we can sign EP for $9m for 8 years it's a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Actually what Arizona is up to is completely rebuilding their team from scratch, with 31 draft picks over the next 3 years and over $52 million in cap space next summer. They can wait 3 years and sign Matthews as a UFA for free... Sure that's the plan ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 hours ago, wai_lai416 said: this is not even a realistic question. no GM will ever retain 35% of a 10mil+ contract just to sign another 9mil+ contract and then add the 3.5-4mil on top in retention lol unless you are giving them like 2-3 1st rounders on top Yes. The question should be, if EP is looking for 11.5 x 5 million and will hold out into he gets it, would we trade for Marner one for one. We'd save a little cap, have Marner for one less year etc - and we all know Dubas would be happy to spend like that lol. A little more realistic. But still corny as heck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Warhippy said: Simple question. Pettersson holds out. Is asking $9+ million. Toronto offers Marner 1-1 3.5 million retained So To Toronto: Pettersson To Vancouver: Marner 3.5 million retained for a cap AAV of 7.4 million Would you? With MM at 7.4 on the cap, I would absolutely make that deal. I’d make that deal with MM at 9 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrago Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 We all know EP is being offered something reasonable, so if he holds out, I'd take whatever for him. I think or at least hope EP character is higher then that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, Alflives said: With MM at 7.4 on the cap, I would absolutely make that deal. I’d make that deal with MM at 9 mil. I recall you hating on how Marner plays, calling him flamingo boy. Why the change of tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, shiznak said: I recall you hating on how Marner plays, calling him flamingo boy. Why the change of tune? Flamingo is Nylander, because he does this: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, shiznak said: I recall you hating on how Marner plays, calling him flamingo boy. Why the change of tune? Marner is very responsible defensively (without the puck). He’s the Leaf’s best PK forward. He never avoids blocking shots. Nylander does the flamingo to avoid getting hit by the puck. He also takes an angle to a shooter that he knows the puck won’t travel. He’s a cowardly player. Marner is none of those things. So MM at under 9 mil is a really good player to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Marner at 8-9 mil is not a bad deal whether realistic or not. IMO though Marner has pretty much reached his ceiling whereas the ceiling for EP is unknown. Still believe EP will sign a reasonable bridge deal and then I'll take my chances with him going forward instead of dealing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, khay said: Yes. Put Miller on center and Marner at wing. Marner has produced 90+ points before and it is very likely that he will continue to do so. Besides, he kills penalties if I'm not mistaken and is defensively aware (unlike Matthews). Either next to Bo or Miller he'll be solid (Hoglander, Boeser, Pearson and Podkolzin are all projected to be solid two-way wingers). If coach wants to keep Bo's line as a shutdown line, Pearson - Bo - Marner would be a very strong trio (solid defensively like Loui, but with offense). That being said, as you say, Marner with Miller would help cover any defensive miscues and they can feed off each other. At that retention he'd be one of the few that I'd be down to trade Petey for. Edited September 18, 2021 by Phil_314 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 No. Marner has shown in the playoffs he's a perimeter player that isn't a difference maker. Petey has already likely agreed to a reasonable bridge deal since he's in town already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Warhippy said: Simple question. Pettersson holds out. Is asking $9+ million. Toronto offers Marner 1-1 3.5 million retained So To Toronto: Pettersson To Vancouver: Marner 3.5 million retained for a cap AAV of 7.4 million Would you? no &^@#ing way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Simple answer - no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 10 hours ago, shiznak said: Marner is one of the best defensive wingers in the league. Amongst wingers, I’ll probably only rank Stone, Killron, and Marchard ahead of him. Since entering the league he’s 3rd in takeaways, and led his team in SH minutes played, the past two seasons. Who is this Killron fellow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Marner disappears in the playoffs - he knows it and so does everyone else. How can you win when your best player doesn't show up to the important games? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 No, I'd be looking at getting a player with a higher compete level who doesn't mail it in when the games get meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hero11 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Pettersson and OJ to NJ for Jack and Luke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Phil_314 said: Either next to Bo or Miller he'll be solid (Hoglander, Boeser, Pearson and Podkolzin are all projected to be solid two-way wingers). If coach wants to keep Bo's line as a shutdown line, Pearson - Bo - Marner would be a very strong trio (solid defensively like Loui, but with offense). That being said, as you say, Marner with Miller would help cover any defensive miscues and they can feed off each other. At that retention he'd be one of the few that I'd be down to trade Petey for. You mean as good as he who must not be named? You can't be serious!!! How dare you put a scrub like Marner on the same sentence as Player Name? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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