Dazzle Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, Michael P said: Can anyone explain to me why Benning put himself in this situation ? Why not secure the future of the franchise, and start trading after that? I have to say Benning trade like blind men fight. Almost all the cap troubles we are in, is his own doing. Why not wait out the bad contracts he traded to Arizona, there were only 1 year left on them? He could have bougt out Virtanen and Holtby anyway and traded Edler and Smidt to clear cap space anyway. I have to, say that I think OEL will have a bounceback in Vancouver but the cap hit is brutal. How will it age? You won't have to look very far to find this answer. What does this have to do with the Pettersson/Hughes signing? It's almost like this discussion is being deliberately derailed to talk about the past moves by the GM, which can't be changed now. This is the path that we are in - just accept it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtman Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Jester13 said: It's not like GMs and agents sit in a room day after day trying to hammer out a contract. With everything going on these last few weeks, I'm not surprised it's not done yet, as these things take time. It's the main focus now, and from the sound of it, they're just ironing out the details on what works best for the players and team. But also from the sound of it, the players have the team in mind, so there is no squeezing going on from anyone. I expect we'll hear an announcement this week. I'd love to see contract negotiations from start to finish. Even if it's just some sort of mock negotiation, I think it would cool to see the inner workings. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Michael P said: I agree with you 100 %. I`m thinking about the future. This time next year there would be cap space galore whithout the OEL contract. That’s over now. Trust me I was in the same boat. I was ready to tucker down for one more season. People flipped out though because of last year. Which is mind boggling because we really didn’t have a chance last year with the schedule and covid. It was when JB pulled of this move with OEL retained and somehow got Garland too. I thought ok you know what, it’s go time. We have plenty of space and only really have to figure out Boeser next year. And have you seen the contracts some of these Defencemen are getting 9-10 million dollars. We could be looking pretty good with OEL at 7. I’m definitely not worried about it I can tell you take. I think a lot of fans are so strung up and unsure because of what happened last off-season. We good 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael P Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Devron44 said: That’s over now. Trust me I was in the same boat. I was ready to tucker down for one more season. People flipped out though because of last year. Which is mind boggling because we really didn’t have a chance last year with the schedule and covid. It was when JB pulled of this move with OEL retained and somehow got Garland too. I thought ok you know what, it’s go time. We have plenty of space and only really have to figure out Boeser next year. And have you seen the contracts some of these Defencemen are getting 9-10 million dollars. We could be looking pretty good with OEL at 7. I’m definitely not worried about it I can tell you take. I think a lot of fans are so strung up and unsure because of what happened last off-season. We good I agree again, It´s besser I`m worried about. Is there money enough left for him next year? I`m not worried about Petey and Quinn trhis year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Michael P said: I agree again, It´s besser I`m worried about. Is there money enough left for him next year? I`m not worried about Petey and Quinn trhis year. He already makes almost 6 million a year what’s a raise looks like 2 million. 3 maybe. Depends on the going rate I guess for a goal scoring winger. I don’t see any issues there looking from the outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael P Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Devron44 said: He already makes almost 6 million a year what’s a raise looks like 2 million. 3 maybe. Depends on the going rate I guess for a goal scoring winger. I don’t see any issues there looking from the outside Just now, Devron44 said: He already makes almost 6 million a year what’s a raise looks like 2 million. 3 maybe. Depends on the going rate I guess for a goal scoring winger. I don’t see any issues there looking from the outside Ok, I might have overreacted.. I`m from Sweden and we don`t have a salary cap like you have, and I have to say that makes hockey much more interessting in NHL than it is in SHL., but we have something that you don`t have. Last team in the SHL gets relegated to a playoff with the winner of the 2nd division team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 44 minutes ago, Michael P said: I agree again, It´s besser I`m worried about. Is there money enough left for him next year? I`m not worried about Petey and Quinn trhis year. Boeser will be traded. Mark my words. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, EddieVedder said: Boeser will be traded. Mark my words. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael P Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Why trade Boesser? I like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGM Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Boeser will be traded. Mark my words. i dont think so, Brocks QO is 7.5 ... Jim can keep him for that. Luongo recapture alone will cover the raise 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, Michael P said: I agree again, It´s besser I`m worried about. Is there money enough left for him next year? I`m not worried about Petey and Quinn trhis year. No problem next year. Boeser has to be qualified at $7.5 million, maybe he negotiates more depending on his season. His $5.875 million comes off, as does Luongo's recapture of $3.035 million. Added ($8.910 million) that ought to be plenty unless he wins the Hart, or gets the Conn Smythe in the playoffs, or something wild like that happens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 44 minutes ago, Michael P said: Ok, I might have overreacted.. I`m from Sweden and we don`t have a salary cap like you have, and I have to say that makes hockey much more interessting in NHL than it is in SHL., but we have something that you don`t have. Last team in the SHL gets relegated to a playoff with the winner of the 2nd division team. But your 2nd division teams aren't owned by the premier clubs - no? Would be embarrassing if, for example, Canucks finished last but Abbotsford won the Calder Cup in the AHL, then defeated the Canucks in a playoff. (Or any other AHL club, for that matter. Imagine the Leafs and the Marlies both in the NHL) Would need the 32 team NHL to go to 2 divisions of 16 teams each, and I can't see the owners agreeing to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Boeser will be traded. Mark my words. What? I mean nothing is for sure but currently there is no reason whatsoever to trade Boeser. He's a major contributor to our team. I have a feeling this comment isn't going to age too well. GCG! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Boeser will be traded. Mark my words. Guys need to stop worrying about BB. If he hasn't earned his raise, the team can take him to arbitration (7.5) if he doesn't agree to a fair deal. Then one year will be rewarded. And we can do it all over again. Miller is the low guy on the ladder anyways, if anyone's getting traded for more cap and to replenish what's coming up it's likely him. Good chance we use him as a third line C this year (which i hope we do), and doubt he will be in the teams long term plans although i could be wrong. One thing is certain, i doubt we will keep all three of Horvat, BB and Miller. Podz arrival for sure would put some heat on BB though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, IBatch said: Guys need to stop worrying about BB. If he hasn't earned his raise, the team can take him to arbitration (7.5) if he doesn't agree to a fair deal. Then one year will be rewarded. And we can do it all over again. Miller is the low guy on the ladder anyways, if anyone's getting traded for more cap and to replenish what's coming up it's likely him. Good chance we use him as a third line C this year (which i hope we do), and doubt he will be in the teams long term plans although i could be wrong. One thing is certain, i doubt we will keep all three of Horvat, BB and Miller. Podz arrival for sure would put some heat on BB though. It'd be a really bad move to trade Miller. Miller is on a great contract for what he brings to the team. He's multidimensional and players like that signed to great contracts are extremely rare. Chances are that he's also not going to ask for that significant a pay raise. He wants to contend and win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 46 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Boeser will be traded. Mark my words. are you for real or are you just trying to stir up trouble ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael P Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Googlie said: But your 2nd division teams aren't owned by the premier clubs - no? Would be embarrassing if, for example, Canucks finished last but Abbotsford won the Calder Cup in the AHL, then defeated the Canucks in a playoff. (Or any other AHL club, for that matter. Imagine the Leafs and the Marlies both in the NHL) Would need the 32 team NHL to go to 2 divisions of 16 teams each, and I can't see the owners agreeing to that. the owners will never agree to that. But think how much better the fight for last place there would be. .Teams can`t just say that we are in a rebuiuld now. And think about how much the interest will increase for teams in the 2nd division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, EddieVedder said: Boeser will be traded. Mark my words. Take my advice and Put the bottle down. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, EddieVedder said: Boeser will be traded. Mark my words. Cut the crap man. I don’t know what you fascination is with dumping on Boeser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, bree2 said: are you for real or are you just trying to stir up trouble ? He’s for real. Talks garbage about him all the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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