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12 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

As per this morning's skate in Calgary, the Flames will run with these lines and pairings tonight:

 

Andrew Mangiapane - Dillon Dube - Brett Ritchie

Jakob Pelletier - Adam Ruzicka - Matthew Phillips

Martin Pospisil - Glenn Gawdin - Luke Philp

Justin Kirkland - Byron Froese - Walker Duehr

 

Juuso Valimaki - Michael Stone

Oliver Kylington - Kevin Gravel

Connor Mackey - Nick DeSimone

 

Dan Vladar

Adam Werner

Who?

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10 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

As per this morning's skate in Calgary, the Flames will run with these lines and pairings tonight:

 

Andrew Mangiapane - Dillon Dube - Brett Ritchie

Jakob Pelletier - Adam Ruzicka - Matthew Phillips

Martin Pospisil - Glenn Gawdin - Luke Philp

Justin Kirkland - Byron Froese - Walker Duehr

 

Juuso Valimaki - Michael Stone

Oliver Kylington - Kevin Gravel

Connor Mackey - Nick DeSimone

 

Dan Vladar

Adam Werner

 

Imagine being in a downward spiral, While the peak of this core only ever achieved middle of the pack results, And having zero prospects worth a damn. lol Flames

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1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

Meanwhile, in Flames land…

 

 

I blame the forward 100% The puck came back and he had to take it on his backhand and got poke checked as he was trying to get actual control of the puck. He was caught in an awkward position and tried to get it on the forehand to dump it back in deep. The forward should have had his guy tied up. Thats not entirely on Gudbranson, winger let his man through and Guddy got poke checked. Thats being blown out of proportion because of who it is.

 

edit: Also wtf is the other dman doing at the bloody bench?! He shouldnt be 70 feet apart from his dman who is under pressure and on his back hand. Guddy has no one to dish the puck to. Zero. zilch. If he backhands that its going to the coiler forward in the high slot and its a break out

 

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24 minutes ago, knucklehead91 said:

I blame the forward 100% The puck came back and he had to take it on his backhand and got poke checked as he was trying to get actual control of the puck. He was caught in an awkward position and tried to get it on the forehand to dump it back in deep. The forward should have had his guy tied up. Thats not entirely on Gudbranson, winger let his man through and Guddy got poke checked. Thats being blown out of proportion because of who it is.

 

edit: Also wtf is the other dman doing at the bloody bench?! He shouldnt be 70 feet apart from his dman who is under pressure and on his back hand. Guddy has no one to dish the puck to. Zero. zilch. If he backhands that its going to the coiler forward in the high slot and its a break out

 

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Well, for one, if you tie up and prevent the winger from moving toward the blue line off the faceoff, they'd call interference. 2nd, the forward was open for a pass down the wall, 3rd, Guddy opened himself up to get easily checked by a) one hand on the stick, and b) moving his body away from the puck before he had control. If he had 2 hands on the stick, it would have been an easy backhand tap off the wall to maintain possession, or recognizing he's under pressure, bring the puck back to center to regroup.

 

I agree about the other defenceman though. Should have recognized the situation, and slid back to around the center ice faceoff circle.

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38 minutes ago, Chickenspear said:

Well, for one, if you tie up and prevent the winger from moving toward the blue line off the faceoff, they'd call interference. 2nd, the forward was open for a pass down the wall, 3rd, Guddy opened himself up to get easily checked by a) one hand on the stick, and b) moving his body away from the puck before he had control. If he had 2 hands on the stick, it would have been an easy backhand tap off the wall to maintain possession, or recognizing he's under pressure, bring the puck back to center to regroup.

 

I agree about the other defenceman though. Should have recognized the situation, and slid back to around the center ice faceoff circle.

No actually its not interfere off the draw. You can tie a guy up for a split second. You’re both stationary. If the guy was already in stride and you go out of your way to step into him and hold him up, its interference. Even if he doesnt “tie him up” he could get in his way and force the guy to take a different route that might buy Guddy some time to make that play. Instead of allowing a straight run at him

1) Gudbranson had to take the puck on the backhand and get control. If he has to reach out on his back hand with 2 hands on the stick, he is not set up to make a pass. Hes reaching for control. Using 1 hand to stop the puck and pull it in gives him better control. He doesnt have to turn his back to the play.

edit: The reason using 1 hand to pull it in gives better control is because he can open up and move the puck. 2 hands on the stick for that play, Guddy cant open up and step laterally which is what he was trying to do. To step to the side of the forechecker and give himself space and open up a shooting lane or passing lane.

 

2) if he turns his back to the play he has no options. He cant move laterally and he can easily be checked, which is why I will go back to my first point about using 1 hand on the back hand. He opens himself up to move laterally. He has options IF he has time. He can either get it to his forehand and make a strong pass or dump in to the corner or get a shot on net.

3) the reason why he is moving before having full control of the puck is to separate himself from the checker even further. If he had less than half a second more, the puck would have been moved from backhand to forehand and he would have been able to move the puck to the guy on the boards. But because the forwards did not tie their guy up off the draw for half a second, Guddy was under pressure without full control of the puck and on his backhand. Even if he reaches with 2 hands, his only play to make is a backhand dump in through the middle where there was another coiler waiting. 

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