Robin Lehner Makes Some Serious Accusations

[Thrillhaus]

https://twitter.com/RobinLehner/status/1444478978937417729?s=20

 

Thoughts? Lehner going after AV as well. Wonder how this is going to play out.

Edited October 3, 2021 by Thrillhaus

[Alflives]

AV is pressuring injured players to take these drugs?

[Playoff Beered]

Sorry for the formatting, I don't have a twitter account.

 

Elliotte Friedman

 

@FriedgeHNIC

 

There is word this morning the NHL is going to reach out to Robin Lehner…ask if he would like to be directly interviewed by the league.

 

Edited October 3, 2021 by Playoff Beered

[Alflives]

4 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

Sorry for the formatting, I don't have a twitter account.

 

Elliotte Friedman

 

@FriedgeHNIC

 

There is word this morning the NHL is going to reach out to Robin Lehner…ask if he would like to be directly interviewed by the league.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is word this morning the NHL is going to reach out to Robin Lehner…ask if he would like to be directly interviewed by the league.</p>&mdash; Elliotte Friedman (@FriedgeHNIC) <a href="https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1444649552611586048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In other words; the league wants to get this all behind their closed doors, so they can control (spin) the message.  Much like they’re currently doing with the Kane gambling fiasco and the Hawks’ disgusting abuse

[Gurn]

I'll wait till more information comes out, before deciding what is going on.

[-DLC-]

There are always two sides and we all know Lehner's a bit of a loose cannon.  But we also know that Kesler also told his story and that it's not a secret that players are medicated in order to play through pain so they don't lose their jobs.

[Gawdzukes]

Looks like Lehner got all hammered/drugged up and lashed out. His sentences aren't even formatted properly. He probably won't remember this at first when he wakes up. Edit: I've read some more of his tweets. Apparently he tweets drunken like talk all the time so who knows.

 

I for one have no problem taking an Ambien or muscle relaxants to help sleep myself. 

 

I remember playing rugby nationals in Montreal one year for U17's and stopping at a local drugstore. The forwards coach picked up about 10 bottles of ibuprofen and then walked down the aisles forcing everyone to down 8-12 before the Alberta medal round game. Of course we squeaked out the improbable victory.

Edited October 3, 2021 by Gawdzukes

[mll]

 

Lehner made the allegations on Twitter on Saturday in an effort, he told ESPN, to call attention to the surgery stalemate between his former teammate Jack Eichel and the Buffalo Sabres.

 

The Swedish goalie threatened to release one story a day unless things "get fixed."

 

"I've made crazy amount of mistakes," Lehner wrote on Twitter. "But lying about what I've seen for 12 years is not one of them. I don't care what they say I don't lie about these things. ... I'll keep going. Have stored stories for a year. Watch now when nhl will try cancel me."

 

NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told ESPN that the league is trying to facilitate an interview with Lehner for more information about his claims.

 

[...]

 

Lehner told ESPN that he was unsettled that more people weren't "talking about what's going on with Jack and stepping up for him." Lehner said he wished more players spoke up on Eichel's behalf.

 

Lehner and Eichel were teammates in Buffalo for three seasons, from 2015 to 2018.

 

The 24-year-old Eichel has been out since March with a herniated disk in his neck. After battling with team management over the proper treatment for the injury, Eichel requested a trade and has been stripped of his captaincy.

 

The Sabres prefer Eichel to receive a fusion surgery, which would have him back on the ice in six months. Eichel's doctors have suggested a disk replacement surgery, which would have him sidelined for six weeks and carries a much lower risk that the center would need future surgeries later in life. The disk replacement surgery has never been performed on an NHL player.

 

Under NHL collective bargaining agreement rules, teams have the final say on how to treat injuries. Eichel will begin the 2021-22 season on injured reserve and is at risk of missing out on a roster spot for Team USA at the 2022 Olympics in Beijing.

 

Lehner, who is one of the NHL's most vocal mental health advocates, said it was unfair that Eichel's situation had dragged on this long and felt he needed to take matters into his own hands.

 

On Friday, Lehner tweeted his frustration about "silence" from the players' association.

[-DLC-]

Although it's no secret at this point that players take meds to play through pain at times out of risk of losing their jobs (Kesler also put his story out there), I don't agree with doing it this way.  In sometimes almost incoherent rants and with a lot of built up anger behind it through Tweets.  It becomes a battle ground pretty quickly as the masses chime in.  I do appreciate the "no filter" part but it has to be constructive if you want it to be impactful.

 

I feel for Lehner...he clearly does have issues and I hope he heals and recovers.

 

I also hope the league isn't what I think it is....which is based on underlying bullying to do what you're told or you're out.  I feel like they are sliding into a different era, but it may be a slow drag from the archaic ways of the past.  Time to get with the times.....walk the walk.

 

I also feel that Jack can fight his own battle here - I wonder if he even wanted to be tied in to this "story"?   I'm not sure teams should have the final say on how to "treat" injuries and it seems fair that players can decide.  But let's face it, there's a fine line here because teams do have medical doctors that supposedly specialized in treatment for athletes and the goal is to get the player back on the ice as quickly as possible.  But that should never be the deciding factor or compromise the best route for treatment and care.

 

I support the cause but not how the message is being delivered.  No one should be forced into surgery that they don't approve of provided they HAVE been given direction BY professional medical staff.   

 

We all know the Cody Hodgson deal and how that allegedly unfolded.  So there appears there could be issues....they're just delicate to iron out because a team has to put players first but players also can't use "outs" if their play is declining or they want to stay on the payroll without playing (not saying that's the case here, just that it could come into play).  Work the system.

 

"Teams have the final say" is a scary concept but it seems they agreed to it?

[BabychStache]

Fascinating story. 
 

Lehner is demonstrating extreme courage here. 

[Gawdzukes]

Lehner vs NHL. Hmmm, the NHL will wipe him out.

 

Can Vegas be happy about this though? What if he gets suspended or his game falls apart?

[Mustard Tiger]

All i know is i for one am thankful vegas ditched fleury for lehner. Keeps our path to the playoffs easy if the only actual good team currently in the pacific has a starting goalie laying it all on the line right before the start of the season. 

Seeing whats come out over the last few years, He probably does have some juice on teams

[Fanuck]

This is going to get interesting. 

 

Starting a social media war with the organization that governs your employment - not the ordinary way to solve workplace issues.   But then again these accusations don't describe typical workplace issues do they?

 

I understand his intent,  but don't care much for his method unfortunately. 

 

If there's been wrongdoing the guilty should be held accountable and the truth should be transparent,  none of this nonsense 'I'll leak stories unless they fix what I say.    The way he's done it - AV's lawyers will be all over that now unless he's got tangible evidence of wrongdoing.  

[King Heffy]

Guys playing hurt is part of the sport's culture.  The drugs are a big reason why it's possible.

[combover]

Hope he can back this up with his “ proof”

Career ending if he can’t with defamation lawsuits and rightfully so. 

no one should make accusation like this via Twitter on a late night rant.
lessons from Donald trump. 

 

he just hurt the entire leagues integrity pretty sure thats a clause  in most contracts for termination. 
best get your proof ready and on display. 

 

Edited October 3, 2021 by combover

[c00kies]

Oddly enough, the first thing I thought of was for players scared of flying lol. I think this is one of those things we know about, but I guess lehner is saying it's one‐sided.

[King Heffy]

4 minutes ago, combover said:

Hope he can back this up with his “ proof”

Career ending if he can’t with defamation lawsuits and rightfully so. 

no one should make accusation like this via Twitter on a late night rant.
lessons from Donald trump. 

 

he just hurt the entire leagues integrity pretty sure thats a clause  in most contracts for termination. 
best get your proof ready and on display. 

 

The league has no integrity.  See the continued employment of Colin Campbell after written proof of his corruption, and Sutherland and Lee not facing consequences for obvious match-fixing.  The league did this to itself.

[Gurn]

31 minutes ago, -DLC- said:

Although it's no secret at this point that players take meds to play through pain at times out of risk of losing their jobs (Kesler also put his story out there), I don't agree with doing it this way.  In sometimes almost incoherent rants and with a lot of built up anger behind it through Tweets.  It becomes a battle ground pretty quickly as the masses chime in.  I do appreciate the "no filter" part but it has to be constructive if you want it to be impactful.

 

I feel for Lehner...he clearly does have issues and I hope he heals and recovers.

 

I also hope the league isn't what I think it is....which is based on underlying bullying to do what you're told or you're out.  I feel like they are sliding into a different era, but it may be a slow drag from the archaic ways of the past.  Time to get with the times.....walk the walk.

 

I also feel that Jack can fight his own battle here - I wonder if he even wanted to be tied in to this "story"?   I'm not sure teams should have the final say on how to "treat" injuries and it seems fair that players can decide.  But let's face it, there's a fine line here because teams do have medical doctors that supposedly specialized in treatment for athletes and the goal is to get the player back on the ice as quickly as possible.  But that should never be the deciding factor or compromise the best route for treatment and care.

 

I support the cause but not how the message is being delivered.  No one should be forced into surgery that they don't approve of provided they HAVE been given direction BY professional medical staff.   

 

We all know the Cody Hodgson deal and how that allegedly unfolded.  So there appears there could be issues....they're just delicate to iron out because a team has to put players first but players also can't use "outs" if their play is declining or they want to stay on the payroll without playing (not saying that's the case here, just that it could come into play).  Work the system.

 

"Teams have the final say" is a scary concept but it seems they agreed to it?

Teams may have the final say, but previous lawsuits have proven they don't always get it right. The player, that inspired the poster below, will testify to that.

30 minutes ago, BabychStache said:

Fascinating story. 
 

Lehner is demonstrating extreme courage here. 

Hopefully that is what it is, and not a hurt, distressed man lashing out.

[combover]

1 minute ago, King Heffy said:

The league has no integrity.  See the continued employment of Colin Campbell after written proof of his corruption, and Sutherland and Lee not facing consequences for obvious match-fixing.  The league did this to itself.

Why do you watch it then. 
Your basically are saying it’s “pro” wrestling.

yup they’ve got issues money corruption go hand in hand in every facet of life. 

for the most part I think the league handles the thousands  of employees the best they can and if I felt as you do and this league has  no integrity I wouldn’t  waste my time on  here or watching rigged matches. 
 
 

[King Heffy]

3 minutes ago, combover said:

Why do you watch it then. 
Your basically are saying it’s “pro” wrestling.

yup they’ve got issues money corruption go hand in hand in every facet of life. 

for the most part I think the league handles the thousands  of employees the best they can and if I felt as you do and this league has  no integrity I wouldn’t  waste my time on  here or watching rigged matches. 
 
 

Lifelong fan of the sport in general.  I definitely think it's going down the path of pro wrestling; hopefully once Bettman is gone his replacement actually respects the sport and holds the scumbags who are disgracing the integrity of the league accountable.  Officiating and the DOPS need to be cleaned up, especially with gambling partners now being a factor.

 

I check scouting the refs before I place a bet; that's an absolutely horrible look for any league.