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Saw this story while back, folks trying to mimic U.S inner cities.
I can’t help but notice that so many wannabe gangsters in Vancouver area come from well to do families.

Not to defend our thugs but overwhelming majority of them act this way because their is no choice.

Strange phenomenon indeed!

 

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/disturbing-twist-in-gang-war-rivals-post-rap-songs-advocating-murder

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16 minutes ago, Rubik said:

what's the problem as long as they take out each other? if that's the life they want to lead, have a blast folks.

The problem is you're at the mall picking up your friend. And you get caught in the crossfire.

Or even just driving home and stopped at an intersection. The bullet meant for the Escalade beside you nails you instead.

But hey banning handguns is going to totally stop gang murders.

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7 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

The problem is you're at the mall picking up your friend. And you get caught in the crossfire.

Or even just driving home and stopped at an intersection. The bullet meant for the Escalade beside you nails you instead.

But hey banning handguns is going to totally stop gang murders.

can't they just go up to the mountains and do it there?

 

but obviously you're right ofc, my not so serious comment came from a sort of frustration. i don't want people to die, but what can you really do about this?

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The only firearm a citizen should be able to own is a hunting rifle.  If a person is seen with a gun that is not a hunting rifle they should be locked up.  Very simple.  Commit a crime with a firearm, and it’s a minimum 20 years.  We are too soft with our gun control, and punishment for violent (.firearm related) crimes.  

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9 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

I owned handguns for 10 years and now to make sure I don't get screwed, I had to sell them.

All I did is go to DVC and shoot my revolvers and pistols against paper targets.

I don't even kill any animals. Yet I'm being treated like a borderline criminal by Local and Federal politics.

Yet gang murders still happen. But no funding for gun smuggling, stopping gangs, or mental health issues.

 

By the way, the murderer in Nova Scotia, had firearms and ammunition without a licence. Even made up a car to look like an RCMP car.

The changes to the laws wouldn't do anything to stop someone like that. Feel safe yet?

I sold mine as well as a few semi auto rifles. No point in risking money over a inane and pointless law.  

 

22 minutes ago, Alflives said:

The only firearm a citizen should be able to own is a hunting rifle.  If a person is seen with a gun that is not a hunting rifle they should be locked up.  Very simple.  Commit a crime with a firearm, and it’s a minimum 20 years.  We are too soft with our gun control, and punishment for violent (.firearm related) crimes.  

Shotguns?  Which are actually the best home defense option other than an auto SMG. 

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1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

I owned handguns for 10 years and now to make sure I don't get screwed, I had to sell them.

All I did is go to DVC and shoot my revolvers and pistols against paper targets.

I don't even kill any animals. Yet I'm being treated like a borderline criminal by Local and Federal politics.

Yet gang murders still happen. But no funding for gun smuggling, stopping gangs, or mental health issues.

 

By the way, the murderer in Nova Scotia, had firearms and ammunition without a licence. Even made up a car to look like an RCMP car.

The changes to the laws wouldn't do anything to stop someone like that. Feel safe yet?

We all had guns on the farm.  Loved my lever action 30-30.  Mrs Alf preferred her break action 22.  Times change, and we need to evolve with them.     But really, other than hunters and farmers (police) who needs a firearm, especially hand guns?  

 

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1 hour ago, CBH1926 said:

Saw this story while back, folks trying to mimic U.S inner cities.
I can’t help but notice that so many wannabe gangsters in Vancouver area come from well to do families.

Not to defend our thugs but overwhelming majority of them act this way because their is no choice.

Strange phenomenon indeed!

 

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/disturbing-twist-in-gang-war-rivals-post-rap-songs-advocating-murder

I've lived in Nanaimo (Vancouver Island), Vancouver, Portland Oregon, Pocatello Idaho, Seoul, Lethbridge Alberta, Toronto, Shanghai, and Beijing. 

 

Guess which is the ONE city where I felt either "weirded out" at times and felt a little unsafe?

 

I really don't get Vancouver at times.  While we poke fun at Alberta for being a bunch of Texas wannabes, and Toronto for being a bunch of New York wannabes, what are we trying to be exactly? Chicago?  Detroit?  Also - why do you say that "an overwhelming majority of them act this way because there is no choice."  How is this "choice", or lack thereof, different from the apparent lack of choices that citizens in other Canadian cities face?  We can mock Calgary all we want but we don't see anywhere near this type of stuff in those cities.  Is it a multicultural issue?  Because we don't see this stuff much in Toronto.  So what gives? 

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32 minutes ago, Alflives said:

The only firearm a citizen should be able to own is a hunting rifle.  If a person is seen with a gun that is not a hunting rifle they should be locked up.  Very simple.  Commit a crime with a firearm, and it’s a minimum 20 years.  We are too soft with our gun control, and punishment for violent (.firearm related) crimes.  

I'm wondering if it would be better to simply make stricter gun laws (with regards to ownership), and also make new innovations with guns where the only way to unlock a gun would be to enter in a password (which could help prevent teens or kids in their early 20's stealing guns from their parents).  I'm of the belief that people have the right to protect themselves, but agree with you that we need to find a way to deter gun violence.  I hate to admit it, but I like China's idea of creating hidden concentration camps near their Kazakstan border in order to scare people from committing serious crimes.  I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Americans and Canadians coming to some kind of agreement and creating an Alaskan/Yukon concentration camp for more serious criminals. Once people realize that hell on earth exists, maybe they'll smarten up.

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4 minutes ago, Patel Bure said:

I'm wondering if it would be better to simply make stricter gun laws (with regards to ownership), and also make new innovations with guns where the only way to unlock a gun would be to enter in a password (which could help prevent teens or kids in their early 20's stealing guns from their parents).  I'm of the belief that people have the right to protect themselves, but agree with you that we need to find a way to deter gun violence.  I hate to admit it, but I like China's idea of creating hidden concentration camps near their Kazakstan border in order to scare people from committing serious crimes.  I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Americans and Canadians coming to some kind of agreement and creating an Alaskan/Yukon concentration camp for more serious criminals. Once people realize that hell on earth exists, maybe they'll smarten up.

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35 minutes ago, Alflives said:

We all had guns on the farm.  Loved my lever action 30-30.  Mrs Alf preferred her break action 22.  Times change, and we need to evolve with them.     But really, other than hunters and farmers (police) who needs a firearm, especially hand guns?  

 

I have two lever actions.

A 22LR, and .357 Magnum.

I just love revolvers. It's hobby like anything else.

I obey the rules to transport and store them and handle them along with my ammo. The range I belong to makes sure folks obey the rules.

Do I need one? No. But does someone NEED a Ferrari?

If we judged by what we need, vs. something we want, we'd all live a pretty miserable existence.

 

Then again the Charter allows for Life and Liberty. Not happiness.

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39 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

We also need to bring castle doctrine here for that though.

That I'm not so sure of. You should have a right to defend yourself yes if you are in danger.

But should it be your first response?

 

Besides, the excuse well he broke into my place, freaked out and fell out the window

3-4 times could totally happen!

 

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20 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

I have two lever actions.

A 22LR, and .357 Magnum.

I just love revolvers. It's hobby like anything else.

I obey the rules to transport and store them and handle them along with my ammo. The range I belong to makes sure folks obey the rules.

Do I need one? No. But does someone NEED a Ferrari?

If we judged by what we need, vs. something we want, we'd all live a pretty miserable existence.

 

Then again the Charter allows for Life and Liberty. Not happiness.

You'll shoot your eye out Ghost!

 

 

:P

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Hey I don't run around with scissors or anything!

 

ACTS
Assume every firearm is loaded.
Control the muzzle direction at all times.
Trigger finger must be kept off the trigger and out of the trigger guard.
See that the firearm is unloaded - PROVE it safe.

PROVE
Point the firearm in the safest available direction.
Remove all ammunition.
Observe the chamber.
Verify the feeding path.
Examine the bore.

 

It's part of the exam(s).

 

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2 hours ago, Rubik said:

what's the problem as long as they take out each other? if that's the life they want to lead, have a blast folks.

Although a Vancouver resident now, I'm originally from LA where I lived most of my life and have had my fair share of witnessing confrontations between gangs in malls, parks, beaches, theatres literally everywhere.

 

Gangsters just want blood sometimes and don't care where or how they get it. Whether it be discreet or in public.

They aren't taking out regular civilians but they are committing these killings/assaults in public places where there are weapons involved and people can easily be caught in the crossfire. 

 

Funny, I thought coming to Vancouver it would be more peaceful but things are really getting out of hand as of late. All these random assaults and killings to add on top of the shootings. DTES getting even worse and even the West End of Vancouver isn't safe anymore. This city is becoming a dump.

 

It's too bad we have an incompetent mayor.

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