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4 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said:

After the most recent failure & departure of yet another 1st Round pick ( Yo-Levi ), this following another 1st Round failure with Jake "The Ripper" and the 2019 give away of yet another 1st round pick for Miller, do you still belive that Uncle Jim is a drafting genious and can be trusted to properly handle this years 2022 1st round pick?

 

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15 minutes ago, Where's Wellwood said:

The Miller trade ended up beyond worth it. Our leading scorer over the last two years for a 20th pick

 

 

Bear in mind Boeser was a 23rd overall pick himself & at the time of the trade, we didn't know what position the Canucks would be drafting (pick wasn't lottery pick protected).  Benning took a calculated risk & it worked out.

 

As to the question of the thread, no GM "hits" on every 1st round pick.  OJ not working out for us isn't remotely sufficient proof Benning isn't a good drafter (as Hughes, EP, Demko, and Boeser are great rebuttals points).

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I think he has with the collaboration with his staff been able to find some nice players in later rounds. I don't like moving Juolevi at this time but like that a right handed defenseman who can play all-round and has better skating and dare I say conditioning in Juulsen. I like giving Juulsen on the right side an opportunity but still feel Juolevi will be a very dependable defenseman when its all said and done.

 

As for moving higher picks as the years have gone on I think the trades have been a saw off but Miller was an over the top win. Again I like that the team finds better players in the later rounds and if you go through the teams in the NHL over the past several seasons the Canucks are at or a shade above average when it comes to drafting player who play in the NHL. Not worried.

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2 minutes ago, drummer4now said:

I think he just got lucky with some of his picks… no different if Gillis was at the helm.

 

Only advantage he had over Gillis was having higher draft placement in deeper drafts a couple of times. 

Gillis took almost got us the cup. This guy might get the job done. 

 

 

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Juolevi didn't turn up to his first camp prepared and I'm not sure he ever understood what it took to be an NHL player.  His post bag skate lay down was pathetic and made him look weak in front of coaches and players and fans.  He really needed to have a good summer and show up to camp and make an impression. 

 

He made an impression alright and it's off to Florida for him.

 

You never know what you're really going to get when you draft a 17 year old.  They're coached to do well in interviews.  Some of them clearly have it easy as kids because they don't have the drive to make it in the toughest league in the world.  If you've got a guy with the wrong mindset, and it doesn't change, then you've got to ship him out because you don't win cups with players like this.

 

Good luck Ollie.  Hopefully this is the kick in the rear he needs. 

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6 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Gillis took almost got us the cup. This guy might get the job done. 

 

 

Well this guy has a lot pressure on him because he needs to win multiple President trophies including one game 7 SCF match.. anything below that would be regarded as not even close or a failure… now if he won the cup he is god. 
 

I think we are seeing time run out for ol Jimbo.. 

 

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We will see between this season and the next. 

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8 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

As to the question of the thread, no GM "hits" on every 1st round pick.  OJ not working out for us isn't remotely sufficient proof Benning isn't a good drafter (as Hughes, EP, Demko, and Boeser are great rebuttals points).

this. 

A first round pick is no guarantee of NHL success. There are lots of GMs who have draft busts.  Imagine being the Ottawa Senators GM Randy Sexton who picked Alexandre Daigle first overall, the next "guaranteed superstar" according to the press.  I do think that OJ's injuries (which JB couldn't have predicted) have also hurt his career upside.  But if a GM's overall success rate with picks beats the odds most of the time, then I wouldn't label him a poor drafter.

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9 minutes ago, drummer4now said:

Well this guy has a lot pressure on him because he needs to win multiple President trophies including one game 7 SCF match.. anything below that would be regarded as not even close or a failure… now if he won the cup he is god. 
 

I think we are seeing time run out for ol Jimbo.. 

 

Detroit Tigers Time GIF by MLB

 

We will see between this season and the next. 

I liked Gillis too.

 

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