Canuckfanforlife82 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I don’t mean to sound like I am whining but…I don’t get how we get such bad schedules every year and it seems like teams who were elite the year before get favourable schedules. Edmonton starts at home but they have a few days off in between each of their games where we are on the road for six to start. Three home openers in that span and back to backs. It just doesn’t make sense and last year we also had a bad schedule. I don’t know but when was our last home game opener? Just frustrates me to give teams advatages becuase they have star players. The league really dictates things don’t they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 A long road trip to start the year can also help the team come together as a group. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, King Heffy said: A long road trip to start the year can also help the team come together as a group. Yes that’s true it just seems like some teams get really good schedules over and over again. At least attempt to make it fair for all teams. Edited October 17, 2021 by Canuckfanforlife82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindiculous Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Honestly looking at our schedule overall this year it is pretty favourable. This is our longest road trip of the year, and we only have 10 back to backs while we get to face teams on a back to back 14 times. Usually we have multiple 6-7 game road trips while this year we only have 1 six game road trip. Also, this one long road trip we have are against sub par teams for the most part so we should be able to take advantage of them anyway. Also, Eastern conference teams always have better schedules than Western conference teams because of less travel. We have to most travel in terms of miles compared to any other team in the league which is why we usually stack our eastern road trips into 6 or 7 games so we cut down on travel miles. It's just bad geography for us unfortunately. Edited October 17, 2021 by Rindiculous 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 What really puts a bee in my bonnet is the number of back to backs we always seem to get. Last season seemed particularly brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: What really puts a bee in my bonnet is the number of back to backs we always seem to get. Last season seemed particularly brutal. Ya, I just look at Edmonton and they have the biggest whiner on the team and they seem to cater to him. There schedule in the beginning has a lot of breaks in between and they are at home. Just a little annoying but what can you do? Edited October 17, 2021 by Canuckfanforlife82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: Ya, I just look at Edmonton and they have the biggest whiner on the team and they seem to cater to him. There schedule in the beginning has a lot of breaks in between and they are at home. Just a little annoying but what can you do? I hate that guy, he got away with so much $&!# during the home opener. He's truly a dirtier player than the NHL would ever like to admit. This season we're actually doing okay with back to backs, but it's probably an anomaly. I blame some of our schedules on where we're located, we travel more than almost every other team because of it, but some of it definitely comes down to how they choose to build team schedules too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyone Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Seattle ought to have a similar travel distance from now on. but it would be interesting to compare B2B's with their schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) All I have to say, is despite being one of the most geographically distant teams in the league, year to year, somehow - CHI, COL, EDM or SJ ends up travelling the most miles ... the league for sure is making some sort of amends for it. If a team like TB, CHI can make it work then we shouldn't ever be using the schedule much as a point of complaint. Now taxes and cap - that's actually a bee in my bonnet for a decade or so that has only gotten worse. Edit: 36.4% vs 53% Edited October 17, 2021 by IBatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 It may not be whining but it sounds sort of familar. I imagine each team submits their schedule preferences and I am certain every team is not 100% satisfied with the final outcome. The more travel we do early in the schedule means the less there is in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coolboarder Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 This year schedule is not that bad but I'm guessing that the schedule on the road is more related to Seattle's home arena time to finish up with their construction in case of unforeseen delays so that is why they are on the road to start the season. They also give the other teams road schedule to the west coast a similar homestand schedule with Seattle to Vancouver or Vancouver to Seattle road trip for Central division and Eastern teams involved. This is my only guess on why they start out on the road. So I'm assuming that next season will be much better season opening schedule by giving them more games at home to begin, maybe back to back games against each other to start similar to Montreal-Toronto season opener every year, it seem or save the Canucks- Seattle rivalry games in middle of the season if they ever needed a break from long travel. I do not mind a 6-games road trip if it involves with Seattle at the end because of first game back home effect so it would feel like a home game for Canucks on their own time zone at the end with short flight home after the game rather than 5-6 hours flight time straight from the East coast for their first game back home. I'd rather them having their full energy when coming home with last stop in Seattle with 50/50 chance of losing at home to increase their chance of winning the game at home by huge margin. Seattle is going through 5 game road trip so their first game home will be on the same par with the Canucks for even playing field. We'll see how it works out for the Canucks. I can see the only way for the Canucks or Seattle to have some kind of break in travel if they increase their divisional games from 4 games to 6 games and scrap the conference format or go with 4-team divisions with 2 divisions in Pacific Conference and split them from North and South and using 6-4-2 schedule matrix format. this will comes out a perfect 82 game schedule. If the league ever decide to go with 8 divisions with no conference, it will be perfect with 8 games against the same division then 2 games for rest of the league This will reduce the Canucks road schedule by a large margin. Until the League scrap the East/West conference format which I hate so much that forced the Canucks with very high mileage, we cannot do anything about their travel.. Imagine with 8 games against Seattle, Calgary, and Edmonton, it will reduce their travel by 10 thousands of miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Road Games actually help teams build chemistry and gell. Tons of new faces on this team so as far as im concerned this is actually what this team needs too start off the season. Go Canucks Go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, grumpyone said: Seattle ought to have a similar travel distance from now on. but it would be interesting to compare B2B's with their schedule. Vancouver had the most advantageous rest/tired schedule last season (before the outbreak derailed things). This year they are still near the top while Seattle has one of the roughest where they are on balance more often the tired team. Edited October 18, 2021 by mll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Yes starting on the road can build chemistry. But I think the question being asked in this thread - is there a bias in setting schedules for teams by the league? Van played Edm 2 times at the end of preseason only to go to Edm for their home opener. Then another home opener in Philly. And finish a long 6 game road trip with a visit to our new biggest rivals for their home opener. Hmm. Fishy. Gotta admit on paper that favours Seattle. I wonder why the league would want to favour their new toy and try to give them a big win over their biggest division/territorial rival in their home opener Hmm...? Or maybe it is pure coincidence like all the NHL did was throw a bunch of team logos down the stairs and pick them up two at a time to determine who plays who when? And of course Toronto opened their season on a 6 game western road swing where 3 of the games were home openers for their opponents. Oh wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: I don’t mean to sound like I am whining but…I don’t get how we get such bad schedules every year and it seems like teams who were elite the year before get favourable schedules. Edmonton starts at home but they have a few days off in between each of their games where we are on the road for six to start. Three home openers in that span and back to backs. It just doesn’t make sense and last year we also had a bad schedule. I don’t know but when was our last home game opener? Just frustrates me to give teams advatages becuase they have star players. The league really dictates things don’t they? Meh, there have been other season schedules which, in their own way, seemed as bad (or worse) than this 6 game road trip. When I heard that the Canucks had this trip to start the season, I figured that they would have to play the six games over 4 days rather than the 11 they get. Here the games are fairly evenly spaced (only one back-to-back), so there's ;likely limited time to work on things, but at least the team shouldn't be too tired. There also is a 2 day break before they have to play Buffalo, and they have a 2 day break after the Seattle game. regards, G. Edit: also, locations are important. For the current trip, the Canucks started in Edmonton, moved to Philadelphia and Detroit, are then moving to Buffalo and Chicago, and finishing with Seattle. This seems to be a fairly efficient distribution of locations, to minimize travel time. In January, the Canucks have a trip which starts in Winnipeg moves to Calgary, and then goes to Chicago... Edited October 18, 2021 by Gollumpus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, fanfor42 said: Yes starting on the road can build chemistry. But I think the question being asked in this thread - is there a bias in setting schedules for teams by the league? Van played Edm 2 times at the end of preseason only to go to Edm for their home opener. Then another home opener in Philly. And finish a long 6 game road trip with a visit to our new biggest rivals for their home opener. Hmm. Fishy. Gotta admit on paper that favours Seattle. I wonder why the league would want to favour their new toy and try to give them a big win over their biggest division/territorial rival in their home opener Hmm...? Or maybe it is pure coincidence like all the NHL did was throw a bunch of team logos down the stairs and pick them up two at a time to determine who plays who when? And of course Toronto opened their season on a 6 game western road swing where 3 of the games were home openers for their opponents. Oh wait... At the moment, I'm more concerned about the December part of the schedule. The Canucks have 15 games that month, 10 of them at home. There is a potential there for additional lengthy road trips, perhaps when the team is even more shorthanded and tired than they are currently. regards, G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Consider this: Saturday home games are the big winners for Canadian teams. They charge more for seats, get tons more viewers, and the viewership hears the crowds cheering for the hometown, bringing to life new fans across the country, on CBC national coverage. Canucks - five home game Saturdays all season. Toronto - 10 home game Saturdays all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 1:32 PM, Canuckfanforlife82 said: Ya, I just look at Edmonton and they have the biggest whiner on the team and they seem to cater to him. There schedule in the beginning has a lot of breaks in between and they are at home. Just a little annoying but what can you do? you do sound like you are whining, remember if we hadn't got COVID last year, our schedule was about to get better, then we took a month off and our sched really sucked at the end I am more concerned about our coach playing 5 guys under 12 minutes and 5 guys over 20 minutes every night I was thinking about Torts overplaying the Sedins and thinking Green is doing the same thing Did Hughes just play 29 mins back to back? I didn't look at his time log yester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 22 hours ago, Slegr said: Consider this: Saturday home games are the big winners for Canadian teams. They charge more for seats, get tons more viewers, and the viewership hears the crowds cheering for the hometown, bringing to life new fans across the country, on CBC national coverage. Canucks - five home game Saturdays all season. Toronto - 10 home game Saturdays all season. Toronto has owned Saturday night forever, its not fair, but its true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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