[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Chicago Blackhawks | Oct. 21, 2021

[Rabid Rooster]

7 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

With all the bitchin' about Green. (I'm included in that group).

The fact is Chicago is a team with:

Kane

Toews

DeBrincat

Calvin De Haan

Seth Jones

Dylan Strome

MAF

Kirby Dach

 

And Green "outcoached" Collition.

Damn that's fantastic and sad all at the same time. 

Why do you say that?

We won despite Green

[JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo]

Just now, ilduce39 said:

For sure but (and I know I’m in the minority here) I think Shorty could have just laughed it off and it would have been a nothingburger. He’s clearly not comfortable with Hirsch either - who to me seems harmless (if a bit annoyingly rambly at times.)

The almond reply was brilliant though. Saved Hirsch's bacon there. 

[Gollumpus]

14 minutes ago, Toyotasfan said:

Montreal might be the seasons first coaching change. Green is trending up 

Does Green speak French?
 

                         regards,  G.

[khay]

8 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

With all the bitchin' about Green. (I'm included in that group).

The fact is Chicago is a team with:

Kane

Toews

DeBrincat

Calvin De Haan

Seth Jones

Dylan Strome

MAF

Kirby Dach

 

And Green "outcoached" Collition.

Damn that's fantastic and sad all at the same time. 

He is one coach in the league that is even less proven that Green.

 

[Locke Lamora]

6 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Depends on what's coming the other way?

If we're talking Dahlin + a 1st. You'd have to consider that. 

Aha! One of the Trade Hughes cohort! 
 

And yeah, I’d consider that trade…for a fraction of a millisecond. Hughes completely controls the game, tilts possession so far in our favour it’s unbelievable. 

Edited October 22, 2021 by Locke Lamora

[vancan2233]

16 minutes ago, Qwags said:

Still worried about the top line. They look off right now.

Petey with only one point tonight looked good, He had some big defensive plays and made some high skilled passes. Still not super Petey yet. 

[wallstreetamigo]

1 minute ago, Googlie said:

So when we lose..."This is all on Green"

 

When we win. ... "He's fortunate"

 

You can't have it both ways

The team won because:

 

1. Demko was very good

2. The hawks were really bad

3. The Canucks were a bit better than the Hawks who were really bad.

 

Which of those are masterful coaching by Green?

[viking mama]

4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said:

Late when there was a timeout called I think.

Within the final 3 or 4 minutes, but before Garland got his empty netter.

 

Just before the 6 on 4, when Chicago called a timeout, I think. 

Edited October 22, 2021 by viking mama

[Crabcakes]

4 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Green, your team won because Demko made saves he didn’t before.  Pods out actually made us worse.  

Fire Green!  

Podz is out to watch a game.  It's for his own education

[ForestFalcon]

Loving how 5 games in so many Canucks have gotten their first of the season. I'd say of those remaining without a goal, only Myers and Hoglander stand out, and I've been happy with what I've seen from them, it's really only a matter of time before Hog gets one. 

[ilduce39]

Just now, wallstreetamigo said:

His reaction is a consequence of our new reality that if you offend someone you get cancelled.

Yeah - to me I immediately read that as Shorty being uncomfortable with Hirsch’s history with mental health.  
 

But if we’re being honest - no one is going to cancel Shorty because rambly old Hirsch said “you always call me crazy” - and pretty clearly just trying to set himself up as the comedic foil to Shorty’s impeccably professional calls.

[Ghostsof1915]

To be fair to Hirsch. I think he's needing support from people. And he just might be his inner thoughts bubbling out. 

He's sort of self abusing, but looking for support all at the same time. 

 

The fact he's open about it, takes a lot of courage. Not many people can admit to things like depression and OCD, especially on a TV broadcast. 

As was pointed out, he needs to learn to keep quiet at times. But if it helps his mental state I'll put up with a bit of awkwardness if he feels better in the long run. 

How many people have mental health issues, and still go into broadcasting? You can't deny he certainly loves the sport. 

[Sharpshooter]

8 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Green should be hugging Demko.  I think our guys can play a lot better.  Demko was the difference.  And Hughes is amazing.  

He is probably mentally ‘peanut-sack hugging’ both Demko and Hughes. Both those guys are saving his job. 

[ilduce39]

2 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

The almond reply was brilliant though. Saved Hirsch's bacon there. 

Yeah, Shorty recovered quickly. Obviously top notch.

[CanucksJay]

5 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

During the timeout. 

LOL Hirsch is so awkward. 

 

Edited October 22, 2021 by CanucksJay

[tas]

Just now, ilduce39 said:

This is very true.

you can see it in their body language and the way they play. when they're confident, quinn and petey use their skill to dictate play and attack. when the confidence isn't there, they use their skills in a more evasive, tentative way. making dekes to try not to lose the puck rather than making a deke to get around a guy. the powerplay, too, when they're good, you can see the attack close in from the outside to attack the net, especially when millsy does his high loop to the point and back. when they aren't confident, they're stuck just sliding it back and forth around the boards. 

 

the talent didn't just go away. these highly paid, intensely competitive professional athletes don't "not care". the coaching is totally fine. confidence is an organic thing, and it's been gone since the training wheels (tanev, markstrom, etc) had to come off prematurely. they just need to regrow it naturally. there needs to be some sort of catalyst, and more stuff like burroughs stepping in for hoglander could help in that direction. 

[Ghostsof1915]

2 minutes ago, Locke Lamora said:

Aha! One of the Trade Hughes cohort! 

I'm happy either way. 

I'm fine with him, if we get a great deal for him I'm ok with that too. But it has to be a GREAT deal. 

[Sharpshooter]

9 minutes ago, tas said:

the team needs positive vibes. the difference between them at their worst and them at their best is confidence.

The team is going to have to vibe off each other. Coaching seems to be to me something that doesn’t necessarily inspire them, and more importantly the fan base. 

[Gollumpus]

21 minutes ago, frank einstein said:

NIce. First one to do it this century

While I do congratulate Hughes, it should be noted that he will soon have company in that "do it this century" club. Makar is sitting at 95 pts in only 104 games.

 

                 regards,  G.   

[wallstreetamigo]

Just now, Ghostsof1915 said:

To be fair to Hirsch. I think he's needing support from people. And he just might be his inner thoughts bubbling out. 

He's sort of self abusing, but looking for support all at the same time. 

 

The fact he's open about it, takes a lot of courage. Not many people can admit to things like depression and OCD, especially on a TV broadcast. 

As was pointed out, he needs to learn to keep quiet at times. But if it helps his mental state I'll put up with a bit of awkwardness if he feels better in the long run. 

How many people have mental health issues, and still go into broadcasting? You can't deny he certainly loves the sport. 

Hirsch doesn’t annoy me as much as he does some people. He is actually pretty honest about both teams and points out flaws without sugar coating it. He talks too much and is definitely annoying but I could actually see him becoming good at it once he gets some chemistry with whoever he is working with.