-DLC- Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Horribly tragic to lose someone in a senseless accident like this. I can't imagine the guilt and anguish of it all. Police have confirmed Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun on the set of western Rust on Thursday, accidentally killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza Author of the article: Bhargav Acharya and Alexandra Ulmer, Reuters Publishing date: Oct 22, 2021 • 2 hours ago US actor Alec Baldwin attends DreamWorks Animation's "The Boss Baby: Family Business" premiere at SVA Theatre on June 22, 2021 in New York City. PHOTO BY ANGELA WEISS /AFP via Getty Images Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer and wounded a director when he discharged a prop gun on a movie set in New Mexico on Thursday, authorities said. Baldwin shot Halyna Hutchins, the photography director of “Rust,” and Joel Souza, the film’s director, at the Bonanza Creek Ranch, a production location south of Santa Fe, according to the Santa Fe Sheriff’s Department. Prop gun fired by Alec Baldwin kills woman on set Hutchins was transported by helicopter to the University of New Mexico Hospital, where she was pronounced dead. Souza was taken by ambulance to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical center to undergo treatment for his injuries. The severity of his injuries could not immediately be determined. Actress Frances Fisher said on Twitter that “Souza texted me that he’s out of hospital.” Asked whether Souza had been discharged, medical center spokesperson Arturo Delgado said he was not allowed to release information about patients. The Sheriff’s office said that no charges have been filed and they are investigating the shooting and interviewing witnesses. “The investigation remains open and active,” the Sheriff’s office said in a statement. Halyna Hutchins, director of photography for “Rust”, poses for a selfie photo in this picture obtained from social media. PHOTO BY HALYNAHUTCHINS /Instagram/via REUTERS Entertainment news site Deadline cited a source in the Sheriff’s office as saying that Baldwin was questioned by investigators and later released. Baldwin went to the sheriff’s office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, the Santa Fe New Mexican reported, citing spokesperson Juan Rios. Deputies were still trying to determine whether what happened was an accident, the newspaper added. Rios did not immediately respond to requests for information from Reuters. Baldwin’s representatives did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Earlier on Thursday, news magazine People reported that a spokesperson for Baldwin had said there was an “accident” involving the “misfire of a prop gun with blanks.” Baldwin was seen “distraught and in tears” as he spoke on the phone outside the sheriff’s office headquarters on Thursday, the Santa Fe New Mexican wrote. Baldwin, 63, is a co-producer of “Rust,” a Western movie set in 1880s Kansas, and plays the eponymous character who is an outlaw grandfather of a 13-year-old boy convicted of an accidental killing. Production of the film had been halted for an “undetermined period,” several news outlets quoted the film’s production company, Rust Movie Productions LLC, as saying. An e-mail to an address for the film production, which was listed on a New Mexico government statement, went unanswered. The shooting evoked memories of an on-set accident in 1993 when U.S. actor Brandon Lee, son of Bruce Lee, died aged 28 after being fatally wounded by a prop gun filming “The Crow.” “Our hearts go out to the family of Halyna Hutchins and to Joel Souza and all involved in the incident on ‘Rust’. No one should ever be killed by a gun on a film set. Period,” said a tweet from Lee’s account, which is handled by his sister. BAN ON SOME PROP GUNS? The accident renewed debate about whether certain types of prop guns should be banned. “This suggestion doesn’t help any of them, but it’s time to stop being macho about blanks and end the practice,” said Ben Rockula, a director. Earlier on Thursday, Baldwin posted a picture of himself on Instagram sporting a grey beard and dressed in Western cowboy-style attire in front of trailers. He appeared to have a fake blood stain on his shirt and jacket. “Back to in person at the office. Blimey … it’s exhausting,” he wrote. The post was deleted late on Thursday night. Hutchins, 42, who was originally from Ukraine and grew up on a Soviet military base in the Arctic Circle, once worked as an investigative reporter in Europe, according to her website. She graduated from the American Film Institute in 2015 and was selected as one of American Cinematographer’s Rising Stars of 2019, according to her website biography. She described herself as a “Restless Dreamer” and an “Adrenaline junkie” on her Instagram page. Her last post, two days ago, shows her grinning under a wide-brimmed hat as she rides a horse. “One of the perks of shooting a western is you get to ride horses on your day off:)” she captioned the video. April Wright, a writer, director and producer, paid tribute to her on Facebook. “I’m in disbelief,” wrote Wright. “So young, vibrant, and talented. Such a wonderful soul. My heart goes out to her son and family.” “I can’t believe that this could happen in this day and age … gunfire from a prop gun could kill a crew member? This is a horrible tragedy,” said actor Joe Manganiello, who worked with Hutchins on the 2020 action movie “Archenemy.” Representatives for Hutchins did not immediately respond to a request for information about her death. Souza, 48, lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with his wife and two children, according to the IMDB website. His LinkedIn page credits him as the “writer/director” of action film Crown Vic and comedy Christmas Trade. “This is still an active investigation and we do not yet have all the facts,” said SAG-AFTRA, which describes itself as the world’s biggest labor union representing performers and broadcasters. “We will continue to work with production, the other unions, and the authorities to investigate this incident and to understand how to prevent such a thing from happening again.” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Reminds me of The Crow 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Terrible thing to happen. In the blink of an eye, Alex Baldwin's career changes drastically. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, falcon45ca said: Reminds me of The Crow Yup. Mentioned that in the world events thread. Wonder if he was goofing around or something else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 with cgi why are these types of guns still around? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CaptKirk888 Posted October 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2021 46 minutes ago, johngould21 said: Terrible thing to happen. In the blink of an eye, Alex Baldwin's career changes drastically. Yup in the blink of an eye, a young woman’s career and LIFE end drastically. 4 2 3 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurn Posted October 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2021 59 minutes ago, johngould21 said: Terrible thing to happen. In the blink of an eye, Alex Baldwin's career changes drastically. Dude, perhaps your focus could be on the dead woman and injured man, not the living, uninjured actor? 1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 My condolences to the family and friends of the now deceased lady. Hoping for a full recovery from what ever injuries were sustained by the director. I'm wondering how many protocols for dealing with stunt weapons were broken, to result in this tragedy? Sadly those protocols were established because of Brandon Lee's death on set at The Crow. It is likely that the rules got slowly forgotten about; because there hadn't been a fake gun incident on set in a long time. People forget why the rules exist, till another accident reminds them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Why the hell can this still happen in this day and age? This is the kind of thing that happened 25 years ago. You would think the technology that they have today would avoid this 100%. Crazy. What a tragedy. I hope they start a criminal investigation on this. Negligence is still a crime if you kill someone... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, gurn said: Dude, perhaps your focus could be on the dead woman and injured man, not the living, uninjured actor? Actually, I am, the common denominator is "guns". Sorry it came out that way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gurn said: Dude, perhaps your focus could be on the dead woman and injured man, not the living, uninjured actor? I mean, even if you aren't injured, if you kill someone you still have to live with that. It's just $&!#ty all around: injured, dead, or otherwise. Our hearts should go out to all of them and I think finger pointing doesn't really help here. (And please let this not become a debate either) Edited October 22, 2021 by The Lock 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaManbeast Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Why do PROP guns have the ability to murder people in their path? What makes them a prop gun and not an actual gun? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, ThaManbeast said: Why do PROP guns have the ability to murder people in their path? What makes them a prop gun and not an actual gun? It has to do with the "bullets" they use. Depending on the shot, there are different rounds. Some are dummies that are used for show (scenes where the actor is loading the gun etc.) and do noting while "Blanks" do something and are still dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, The Lock said: I mean, even if you aren't injured, if you kill someone you still have to live with that. It's just $&!#ty all around: injured, dead, or otherwise. Our hearts should go out to all of them and I think finger pointing doesn't really help here. (And please let this not become a debate either) True. I’m sure this will affect Alec Baldwin’s mental state for the rest of his life, regardless of it being an accident. As it will affect everyone on set in some way. As it will affect the families of everyone involved. I don’t think anyone was pointing fingers at @johngould21 just pointing out that the immediate focus was on a life lost, rather than the affect it will have on the living. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, ThaManbeast said: Why do PROP guns have the ability to murder people in their path? What makes them a prop gun and not an actual gun? Some ARE actual guns they just have blanks in the chamber/cylinder. Just because they are blanks doesn't mean it's not dangerous. A blank cartridge is a regular bullet casing and has propellent and either wadding or a bullet plug that is supposed to contain the propellent but still produce a bang, and flash. Jon-Erik Hexum was killed because he used a prop gun, used it like russian roulette and held it against his head and was killed. Because the force of the propellent and the paper plug still caused enough blunt trauma to kill him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 With the all the special effects and advancements of technology in Hollywood nowadays, you'd think they wouldn't need potentially harmful PROPS for the actors to use? What an unfortunate freak accident. RIP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 First his dumb wife gets caught living a a 20 year lie pretending to be a Spaniard, his brother Stephen turns into an even bigger idiot than he was previously, and now this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, CaptKirk888 said: True. I’m sure this will affect Alec Baldwin’s mental state for the rest of his life, regardless of it being an accident. As it will affect everyone on set in some way. As it will affect the families of everyone involved. I don’t think anyone was pointing fingers at @johngould21 just pointing out that the immediate focus was on a life lost, rather than the affect it will have on the living. That's fair. There certainly is a chance I misinterpretted gurn's post as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton Peck Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Apparently it was loaded with one live round. https://nationalpost.com/news/world/prop-gun-fired-by-alex-baldwin-on-movie-set-loaded-with-a-live-round-says-hollywood-union 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Templeton Peck said: Apparently it was loaded with one live round instead of a blank. https://nationalpost.com/news/world/prop-gun-fired-by-alex-baldwin-on-movie-set-loaded-with-a-live-round-says-hollywood-union Why in holy hell would live rounds ever be an option? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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