Fan since 82 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 16 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: In 2014 Benning came in and inherited a team that just missed the mark a few years ago and its veterans were declining. They did manage to make the playoffs that year - but Ferland and CGY. Since then they did make the strange, shortened "bubble" post-season, but I think it was more other teams struggled with the isolation than others. VAN handled it well. Hard to judge that as a real season. More like a very long tournament in a cushy prison. Green has had years now to get these elite players into playoff mode. My hope is that if they're not in a playoff spot by the NHL All-Star / Winter Olympics break, then let Green go and get someone who can rally them down the stretch. This team needs to be in the playoffs this year. What coach would you think we should get? Not intending to be argumentative but there's not really anyone else out there atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Lol ... yep .. actually saw the Ramones live ... now they're live in Shoppers Drug Mart I think the Ramones complaint is fair but AC/DC has been the definition of stadium rock for 40 years. With the bells and cannons, they are built for being crowd pleasers. Heck they even told you at the beginning that they have the biggest balls of them all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyndall2 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Such a similarity between the Canucks and the Seahawks which West Coast fans have been supporting for years. High expectations, lots of rah, rah by the coaches and then poor results. Seems to repeat itself year after year. Could it be the rain, the coffee or what? Actually, it is the fact that management thinks they are better than they really are and do little to change up the parts of the whole. Both are businesses so let's act like it and make changes to move forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 These videos are always a good watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Tyndall2 said: Such a similarity between the Canucks and the Seahawks which West Coast fans have been supporting for years. High expectations, lots of rah, rah by the coaches and then poor results. Seems to repeat itself year after year. Could it be the rain, the coffee or what? Actually, it is the fact that management thinks they are better than they really are and do little to change up the parts of the whole. Both are businesses so let's act like it and make changes to move forward. Seahawks do have Super Bowl rings from 2014. Beat the Broncos and got their Super Bowl rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whysoserious Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 9 hours ago, DeNiro said: We don’t need blue chip prospects we need real depth more than anything. Guys like Podkolzin and Klimovich will be able to step up and replace Pearson and Miller. I think Miller could fetch us a first at some point in the next couple years. That will go a long ways for restocking the cupboard. As for depth we have a lot of promising depth guys like Woo, Jurmo, Persson, and Truscott. Just need one of them to pan out and we’ll be able to replace more expensive contracts like Hamonics. Some good looking depth guys coming up in Lockwood, Jasek, McDonaugh, and Focht. They may not be sexy names but Benning has shown a knack for finding later round gems. That all sounds good but it's just unrealistic. Miller's contract ends next year, can we really afford to trade him if we're trying to compete? It's unrealistic to just assume that Podkolzin and Klimovich will be ready to replace Miller's production. We really need a minute eating defenseman on the right side. None of the defensive prospects you named project to be that, and are unlikely to be ready in the next couple years. How many more years can we be mediocre for? We're wasting Horvat's prime and Pettersson only signed for 3 years. We'll be lucky if even one of Lockwood, Jasek, Focht, McDonaugh end up being contributors in the NHL. These players panning out should not be what we're relying on to improve the team, it would be great if they do pan out but certainly should not be an expectation. Who exactly has Benning picked in the later rounds that has made an impact in NHL? Forsling is the only one that I can think of and he was dumped less than a year after selected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Team looked like a Dollar store version of the 2011 Bruins out there. Dump and chase dog hockey. Lack of one way talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Tyndall2 said: Such a similarity between the Canucks and the Seahawks which West Coast fans have been supporting for years. High expectations, lots of rah, rah by the coaches and then poor results. Seems to repeat itself year after year. Could it be the rain, the coffee or what? Actually, it is the fact that management thinks they are better than they really are and do little to change up the parts of the whole. Both are businesses so let's act like it and make changes to move forward. Its all just luck. Imagine if Vertanen and Joulevi turned out to be what they were supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 20 hours ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Lol ... yep .. actually saw the Ramones live ... now they're live in Shoppers Drug Mart Uhg the Ramones came to Victoria with the Thompson Twins, Blondie and Talking Heads we got there late thinking the Thompson Twins would open Th RAmones opened we missed them then one by one they died I guess I'll never see the ramones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 On 10/28/2021 at 5:20 AM, DrJockitch said: I think the Ramones complaint is fair but AC/DC has been the definition of stadium rock for 40 years. With the bells and cannons, they are built for being crowd pleasers. Heck they even told you at the beginning that they have the biggest balls of them all. No, that was Brandon Sutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 On 10/28/2021 at 3:32 AM, Fan since 82 said: What coach would you think we should get? Not intending to be argumentative but there's not really anyone else out there atm. is Bruce Boudreau still available, or is he on his way to FLA as we (slowly) think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, lmm said: No, that was Brandon Sutter His are gritty, not large. Chafes terribly I would imagine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since 82 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/29/2021 at 5:15 PM, lmm said: is Bruce Boudreau still available, or is he on his way to FLA as we (slowly) think Yes he might be ok. I think Kesler criticized him indirectly saying it would be good to have a coach who could make in-game adjustments. Isn't that a complaint about Green as well? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 On 10/27/2021 at 3:39 PM, CanucksJay said: I'm honestly curious for all the Green defenders. What is the worst thing that can happen if we change the coach and go with an experienced NHL coach with a good pedigree? Worst thing that can happen is find out that it may not have been a coaching issue and we perform same as now. Alternative? Improved performance? Seems like a no brainer to me. Yes. It would suck if Green got fired and it ended up not being his fault but same can be said about trading a player and uprooting his family if it wasn't his fault either Where are the Green defenders now. Their silence speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Where are the Green defenders now. Their silence speaks volumes. LOL no kidding Imagine we gutted the team instead of trading Green? Funny how the entire team stayed intact minus Motte. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 What a very specific thread resurrection, is there like a 'remind me' function on this website? Because I'd love to dig up an old thread from a time when someone tried to argue for the Beagle signing by saying that you need you acquire third liners like Bickel and Shaw before tanking for Patrick Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 On 10/29/2021 at 12:15 PM, lmm said: is Bruce Boudreau still available, or is he on his way to FLA as we (slowly) think This guy was ahead of his times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Where are the Green defenders now. Their silence speaks volumes. I tought Green was ok for a coach. But, although I thought it was time for a change, I could understand Benning giving him a mulligan on 20/21 season and re-signing him. There were an awlful lot of extenuating circumstances to that awful season. With half the D being replaced, and no training camp/preseason worth mentioning, I fully expected a slow start. Then add the worst shcedule in the league to open the season, meaning little to no practice time, and a slow start was all but guaranteed. We could look forward to one of the easier schedules toward the end of the season though. The team was actually playing much better, and making gains, when covid hit. And it hit hard. That wiped out the easier late schedule and actually compressed it instead. I can see why Green would get some benefit of the doubt for that season. Combined that with making game 7 of the second round the season before and I realy could understand why Benning kept him on. My knock on Green was I thought both the PK and PP were too passive and stationary. No coach ends up with a winning record through a rebuild. It's rather foolish to point to his record as evidence he's a bad coach in that regard. So I viewed Green as a fine coach for that period, and who knows, he could turn out to be great. I just thought with where the team was at, and a disaster season regardless of circumstance, he should have been replaced with a more experienced coach. It was time. Now if that's being a "Green defender" then I'm guilty and still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Baggins said: I tought Green was ok for a coach. But, although I thought it was time for a change, I could understand Benning giving him a mulligan on 20/21 season and re-signing him. There were an awlful lot of extenuating circumstances to that awful season. With half the D being replaced, and no training camp/preseason worth mentioning, I fully expected a slow start. Then add the worst shcedule in the league to open the season, meaning little to no practice time, and a slow start was all but guaranteed. We could look forward to one of the easier schedules toward the end of the season though. The team was actually playing much better, and making gains, when covid hit. And it hit hard. That wiped out the easier late schedule and actually compressed it instead. I can see why Green would get some benefit of the doubt for that season. Combined that with making game 7 of the second round the season before and I realy could understand why Benning kept him on. My knock on Green was I thought both the PK and PP were too passive and stationary. No coach ends up with a winning record through a rebuild. It's rather foolish to point to his record as evidence he's a bad coach in that regard. So I viewed Green as a fine coach for that period, and who knows, he could turn out to be great. I just thought with where the team was at, and a disaster season regardless of circumstance, he should have been replaced with a more experienced coach. It was time. Now if that's being a "Green defender" then I'm guilty and still here. 30 days! *bangs gavel* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 Please don’t bump old threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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