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morrissex95 Canucks Rookie

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1 hour ago, King Heffy said:

Was there a whisper of Messier being a locker room cancer before he came here?

What Messier did was not equal to what Toews did. 

 

Toews did nothing to protect his teammate and all Messier did was rub a few guys the wrong way. Toews watched Kyle Beach get taunted, disrespected, sexually assaulted and sexually harassed while all Messier did was mail it in a little while he was here. Also, Messier put up 60, 48 and 54 point seasons while he was playing here. I know the people who watched said he was terrible, but he certainly wasn't as bad as Player Name and Player Name was here for FIVE years while Messier was only here for THREE. Plus Messier wasn't costing any cap space he was just costing the team money which isn't our job to care about.

 

Did Messier wear Wayne Maki's #11 when he could've chosen another number, like #27 which is what he wore in Cincinnati. Did he steal the captaincy from Trevor Linden? Did he watch Mike Keenan dismantle our team? Finally, did he cover up a rookie getting raped by someone who should probably be a registered sex offender? Case closed. 

 

Now we'll get to this Green Jacket nonsense. People don't realize that Chychrun is actually a very talented player. Seth Jones is also a good player. Jones plays on Chicago, which just traded their first to Columbus and moved their defensive stalwart in Duncan Keith to the Oilers. Chicago could probably compete in the central, but Arizona? I mean Chychrun is holding the whole team together but Jones? He's got guys helping him out. Chychrun has Stralman, Soderstrom and Timmins and that's just about it. At forward, he's got Kessel, Schmaltz, Keller and Hayton. That's it. So yeah, Arizona is a tire-fire because of the damage done by John Chayka. 

 

Chicago and Seth Jones though? Well, he'll be there for the duration of that contract, he'll get traded or he'll get bought out. Chicago's dynasty is definitely over though. Chicago doesn't have the talent to go the distance and Toews and Kane are too old to wait. DeBrincat is good, but he's also small and is a complimentary player. Strome needs to be traded. Borgstrom is more of a bottom six guy. Adam Gaudette is there for depth. Kirby Dach is probably a good 2C. Mike Hardman looks promising. Brandon Hagel is another good player. But on the backend? Nah, Chicago is mediocre. But Arizona, they're downright horrendous. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, morrissex95 said:

What Messier did was not equal to what Toews did. 

 

Toews did nothing to protect his teammate and all Messier did was rub a few guys the wrong way. Toews watched Kyle Beach get taunted, disrespected, sexually assaulted and sexually harassed while all Messier did was mail it in a little while he was here. Also, Messier put up 60, 48 and 54 point seasons while he was playing here. I know the people who watched said he was terrible, but he certainly wasn't as bad as Player Name and Player Name was here for FIVE years while Messier was only here for THREE. Plus Messier wasn't costing any cap space he was just costing the team money which isn't our job to care about.

 

Did Messier wear Wayne Maki's #11 when he could've chosen another number, like #27 which is what he wore in Cincinnati. Did he steal the captaincy from Trevor Linden? Did he watch Mike Keenan dismantle our team? Finally, did he cover up a rookie getting raped by someone who should probably be a registered sex offender? Case closed.

I tend to agree, except despite Messier's production he was the laziest piece of garbage I've ever seen wear the jersey.  For Toews to be even worse just shows how much of a disgrace to the sport Captain Joke really is.  Imagine being a guy like Debrincat, who seemed genuine with his response, and having to share a dressing room with that pitiful excuse for a man.

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29 minutes ago, morrissex95 said:

What Messier did was not equal to what Toews did. 

 

Toews did nothing to protect his teammate and all Messier did was rub a few guys the wrong way. Toews watched Kyle Beach get taunted, disrespected, sexually assaulted and sexually harassed while all Messier did was mail it in a little while he was here. Also, Messier put up 60, 48 and 54 point seasons while he was playing here. I know the people who watched said he was terrible, but he certainly wasn't as bad as Player Name and Player Name was here for FIVE years while Messier was only here for THREE. Plus Messier wasn't costing any cap space he was just costing the team money which isn't our job to care about.

 

Did Messier wear Wayne Maki's #11 when he could've chosen another number, like #27 which is what he wore in Cincinnati. Did he steal the captaincy from Trevor Linden? Did he watch Mike Keenan dismantle our team? Finally, did he cover up a rookie getting raped by someone who should probably be a registered sex offender? Case closed. 

 

Now we'll get to this Green Jacket nonsense. People don't realize that Chychrun is actually a very talented player. Seth Jones is also a good player. Jones plays on Chicago, which just traded their first to Columbus and moved their defensive stalwart in Duncan Keith to the Oilers. Chicago could probably compete in the central, but Arizona? I mean Chychrun is holding the whole team together but Jones? He's got guys helping him out. Chychrun has Stralman, Soderstrom and Timmins and that's just about it. At forward, he's got Kessel, Schmaltz, Keller and Hayton. That's it. So yeah, Arizona is a tire-fire because of the damage done by John Chayka. 

 

Chicago and Seth Jones though? Well, he'll be there for the duration of that contract, he'll get traded or he'll get bought out. Chicago's dynasty is definitely over though. Chicago doesn't have the talent to go the distance and Toews and Kane are too old to wait. DeBrincat is good, but he's also small and is a complimentary player. Strome needs to be traded. Borgstrom is more of a bottom six guy. Adam Gaudette is there for depth. Kirby Dach is probably a good 2C. Mike Hardman looks promising. Brandon Hagel is another good player. But on the backend? Nah, Chicago is mediocre. But Arizona, they're downright horrendous. 

 

 

Personally I think Chicago could still be a contender, Toews or no. Name Jones captain. With this stockpile of young talent they've got, plus Kane, Johnson and Jones, it looks bad right now, but if they can just sneak into the playoffs they can do damage. Kane has proven that time and again. They'd need a couple of those young players to emerge into legit top liners. DeBrincat, Dach should be, but what about guys like Nylander, Borgstrom, Hagel? And if they could somehow use this situation to null Toews' contract, that would be the windfall of the ages, as they could go HAM at UFA next summer.

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1 minute ago, HighOnHockey said:

Personally I think Chicago could still be a contender, Toews or no. Name Jones captain. With this stockpile of young talent they've got, plus Kane, Johnson and Jones, it looks bad right now, but if they can just sneak into the playoffs they can do damage. Kane has proven that time and again. They'd need a couple of those young players to emerge into legit top liners. DeBrincat, Dach should be, but what about guys like Nylander, Borgstrom, Hagel? And if they could somehow use this situation to null Toews' contract, that would be the windfall of the ages, as they could go HAM at UFA next summer.

Who do they replace Toews with? Trocheck? Domi? Kadri? 

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If you have seen any Coyotes games. The team is just plain awful. No secondary defense, no scoring, and no goaltending whatsoever. 

 

Despite being a league’s worst minus-20. His defense actually has improve over last season by 10%, according to his advance metrics. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, shiznak said:

If you have seen any Coyotes games. The team is just plain awful. No secondary defense, no scoring, and no goaltending whatsoever. 

 

Despite being a league’s worst minus-20. His defense actually has improve over last season by 10%, according to his advance metrics. 

 

 

Chychrun is now -20!  Maybe he can set a record? How about -100?  :lol:

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