-SN- Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Current Staff This topic is meant for long-term discussion of the Canucks coaching staff, tactics and strategy. Please keep it to hockey and decisions on the ice, and avoid personal comments. June 17, 2022 Update: 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 If we change the head coach, which of the assistants might change too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: If we change the head coach, which of the assistants might change too? All of them except Shaw and Clark 3 1 3 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazzle Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 With all due respect to the coaching staff and how purportedly nice they are, the Canucks really shot themselves in the foot by needlessly extending some coaches, when they could've just started with a new slate. The team was supposedly projected to make the playoffs, and under Green, this has never happened except the bubble. Moreover, Green's win percentage is not any better, or is comparable to the WD era, who had a MUCH WORSE roster to play with. We all knew WD's limitations as a coach, so that's why he was replaced. WD had a short stint as LA King's coach, before going back to juniors. Some coaches don't do as well in the big leagues (i.e. Don Hay), but they do amazing in the lower leagues. I am not questioning how 'nice' these people are, but it's becoming clear that Green, however nice he may be, is just not suitable for this job. The decisions made by Green (and WD really) have been headscratching. With WD, at least he had the excuse of having a poor roster, so he overplayed players like Megna and Chaput, both of whom were very serviceable players in their own right. Curiously, Green has had a very stereotypical approach to his rosters, as we never really saw Macewen or Bailey much, despite several chances in the callup. Some of the blame may be on the players for not 'rising up'. However, we also see Green stifling current roster players (Podkolzin for example), while overplaying others. Last night, we saw Garland have an amazing game - and guess who Green sat UNTIL the game was too late. It's becoming clear that Green is a glorified AHL coach. He has never really achieved much, even with this enhanced roster. That is saying a lot about his capabilities. When a coach fails to adapt to a vastly changed roster, that's on him. Also, if our defensive aspect of the roster is questionable, shouldn't we spend more time being responsible in that area? Nope. Green's approach is run and gun, at the cost of defense (while employing a questionable defensive coach that isn't Shaw). It's Baumgartner. Nice guy, but I doubt he's well known as a defensive stalwart. Green, for whatever reason, doesn't like to see scoring in his lineup. He benches the players who score (Podkolzin, Garland), probably for deviating from 'his' game plan. To me, this coach sucks. 1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kanucks25 Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 Wait, shouldn't this go in the Abbotsford Canucks section? Oh no, sorry, my mistake. We just have AHL coaches on our NHL team. Carry on. 2 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Green’s benching/ice-time reduction of Garland in the two games prior to last night’s game was completely non sensical......unless I’m missing something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 29 minutes ago, King Heffy said: All of them except Shaw and Clark I think we're fortunate to have these two as a base to work with. Clark is kind of an independent operator so I don't think changes will effect him. I guess the big question I have more than anything else, is why are we seeing this team struggle in the same manner as previous years with so much more talent now? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The Edmonton Powerplays won the game last night. This is the best pp in the league and a unit that has been together for years tweaking their pp. I thought the Canucks stepped up their execution last night and are getting closer to playing the kind of game they want to play. Too soon to talk of changing the coaching staff. Team needs some continuity. They made some great plays last night, but didn't finish. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Shaw - new defensive coach Clark - goaltending coach --- rest should change, may it be Malhotra or Burrows returning, or Sedins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Comeback_Kings said: The Edmonton Powerplays won the game last night. This is the best pp in the league and a unit that has been together for years tweaking their pp. I thought the Canucks stepped up their execution last night and are getting closer to playing the kind of game they want to play. Too soon to talk of changing the coaching staff. Team needs some continuity. They made some great plays last night, but didn't finish. Probably the best game of the year for EP too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The Canucks have barely played with a lead this season so it is hard to comment on how they are defending the lead. Goals get scored in transition with odd man rushes. Teams aren't giving up odd man rushes against them because they've had the lead playing on the road. In all three games the opposition has had power plays in the first period. Canucks didn't get a pp till 4 minutes left in the games last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Green would maybe make a decent assistant coach in the NHL, but enough already. If the Aquas really want to win, they can't cut costs on the guy coaching/directing the team. They need a head coach with experience, and who's won before, or at the least a winning record. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 When does the general management yearbook come out? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 One thing I will say is this....some here think it's much easier to win a SC than it is. These are current active coaches who have more than one SC win (and by more than one, I mean 2) at least according to the list I checked: Jon Cooper Mike Sullivan Darryl Sutter Joel Cringeville Coaches with one: Craig Berube, Torts, Julien, Trotz Some of us talk like you just slot in a "winning coach" but they're in great demand. I've been talking about my openness to a change...but I also know it's slim pickings out there and it's very much a "be careful what you wish for" deal. https://records.nhl.com/records/coach-records 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, AV. said: When does the general management yearbook come out? Oh that....it burned in the fire. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Reserving criticism until the 20gm mark. By then the sample size with the new personnel and systems will be more meaningful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Fire anyone not named Shaw and Clark. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexcar Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 47 minutes ago, JM_ said: I think we're fortunate to have these two as a base to work with. Clark is kind of an independent operator so I don't think changes will effect him. I guess the big question I have more than anything else, is why are we seeing this team struggle in the same manner as previous years with so much more talent now? The roster is upgraded but coaching staff doesn't seem up to scratch. If a change is to be made who is out there to suit the canucks roster?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hamhuis Hip Check Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 This is gonna be a fun thread to watch 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wallstreetamigo Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, -DLC- said: One thing I will say is this....some here think it's much easier to win a SC than it is. These are current active coaches who have more than one SC win (and by more than one, I mean 2) at least according to the list I checked: Jon Cooper Mike Sullivan Darryl Sutter Joel Cringeville Coaches with one: Craig Berube, Torts, Julien, Trotz Some of us talk like you just slot in a "winning coach" but they're in great demand. I've been talking about my openness to a change...but I also know it's slim pickings out there and it's very much a "be careful what you wish for" deal. https://records.nhl.com/records/coach-records Almost no one I see calling for Green to be fired is expecting a sudden SC. It’s not even about a coach who has won a cup. They are expecting: - a system that works in the current nhl. - a culture change to actually be a team that’s hard to play against instead of the coach just talking about it for 5 years. - a fresh perspective on what players are and aren’t so they are deployed effectively. - lines and players that have a clear role, not 4 lines expected to be everything at all times. There are dozens of coaches including ones on your list who have the experience and coaching chops needed. 3 4 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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