NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, DrJockitch said: They will rally and move up to around the 12th pick by end of season. The squishy middle is where this team looks destined. Not good enough to compete, not bad enough for a top pick. The Canadian team formula. Habs reached the Finals this past season. Course with Price out, they’ve come back down to Earth. We’d be in their position if Demko was similarly out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Coaching 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wai_lai416 Posted November 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2021 Ppl keep saying the sample size is small.. yes the sample size is small for the players especially the one struggling.. but the sample size is pretty big for our system.. it's like 3-4 years now. Why we didn't improve coz we are running the same failed system of previous years. Our defensive system is let the other team out shoot us from the perimeter.. problem is perimeter shots can produce rebound or bounce off random players and into the net.. and we give up 35+ shots a night.. based on goalie save %.. that's usually 3 goals against minimum. Then there is our offense. It's stationary it's static no one moves and is standing still waiting for the puck. It makes us look slow and coz no one is moving.. we aint drawing much penalties.. the only calls we get are cross checking.. we rarely get the hooking or tripping calls coz we don't skate/move. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: Ppl keep saying the sample size is small.. yes the sample size is small for the players especially the one struggling.. but the sample size is pretty big for our system.. it's like 3-4 years now. Why we didn't improve coz we are running the same failed system of previous years. Our defensive system is let the other team out shoot us from the perimeter.. problem is perimeter shots can produce rebound or bounce off random players and into the net.. and we give up 35+ shots a night.. based on goalie save %.. that's usually 3 goals against minimum. Then there is our offense. It's stationary it's static no one moves and is standing still waiting for the puck. It makes us look slow and coz no one is moving.. we aint drawing much penalties.. the only calls we get are cross checking.. we rarely get the hooking or tripping calls coz we don't skate/move. I agree with this. Can someone explain what Green has changed with his system(s) in the last few years, aside from constantly blending his lines? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Remember when folks were hopping mad when all the prediction models said we were in the range of 18-25th place in the league. So far looking like they were pretty bang on. We won’t be quite this bad all the way through… but even winning at a little better clip doesn’t mean we are playoff bound. We were relying on our division being terrible to help us out, so far we are the worst in our division… which is still the weakest in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Boeser and Rathbone are both RFAs at the end of the season, and Brock won't be cheap. Luckily though, Lu's $3M finally comes off the books. Canucks are all in this year, because Benning set them up that way. He's traded the last two years 1st round draft picks, brought in good quality veterans. This team should be better than they are and that is on coaching. Travis looks like he's running out of excuses, and trying real hard to convince everyone these are the ebbs and flows of the season, but they're taking steps. Give me a break. Pro sports is results based. You don't produce, and you're probably gone. Green hasn't produced since he's been coach. Most of the bubble success was because of Markstrom standing on his head and stopping 40+ shots a night. That was not Green's brilliant coaching. lol Even with all of the stars and exciting young players, good gritty veterans - this team is stale and they're playing sad hockey right now. Get someone in there to fix this and right the ship. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Knows Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 hours ago, iinatcc said: (we didn't take into consideration that San Jose and LA's young players are going to take another step) Yeah, Like Jonathan Dahlen LOL...another Benning blunder as it turns out. Where is Linus Karlsson anyway??...not in the NHL and in the top 10 of rookie scoring that's for sure ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Boeser and Rathbone are both RFAs at the end of the season, and Brock won't be cheap. Luckily though, Lu's $3M finally comes off the books. Canucks are all in this year, because Benning set them up that way. He's traded the last two years 1st round draft picks, brought in good quality veterans. This team should be better than they are and that is on coaching. Travis looks like he's running out of excuses, and trying real hard to convince everyone these are the ebbs and flows of the season, but they're taking steps. Give me a break. Pro sports is results based. You don't produce, and you're probably gone. Green hasn't produced since he's been coach. Most of the bubble success was because of Markstrom standing on his head and stopping 40+ shots a night. That was not Green's brilliant coaching. lol Even with all of the stars and exciting young players, good gritty veterans - this team is stale and they're playing sad hockey right now. Get someone in there to fix this and right the ship. lol 2 of that 3mil is already used up by the increase in buyout from hotlby and virtanen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 38 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Coaching nah, it has more to do with some sort of deep connection between Corrado, McCan't, and Forsling. And a 2nd. Yeah its coaching. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Boeser and Rathbone are both RFAs at the end of the season, and Brock won't be cheap. Luckily though, Lu's $3M finally comes off the books. Canucks are all in this year, because Benning set them up that way. He's traded the last two years 1st round draft picks, brought in good quality veterans. This team should be better than they are and that is on coaching. Travis looks like he's running out of excuses, and trying real hard to convince everyone these are the ebbs and flows of the season, but they're taking steps. Give me a break. Pro sports is results based. You don't produce, and you're probably gone. Green hasn't produced since he's been coach. Most of the bubble success was because of Markstrom standing on his head and stopping 40+ shots a night. That was not Green's brilliant coaching. lol Even with all of the stars and exciting young players, good gritty veterans - this team is stale and they're playing sad hockey right now. Get someone in there to fix this and right the ship. The reason a coaching change needs to happen ASAP is that waiting too long just puts the team behind the 8 ball for the entire season. It has been enough games now of apathetic play, no effective systems, no identity, and most importantly, sub par results. You can’t blame everything on Green and the coaching staff. But really that’s the only move to make. If missing Sutter, Motte, and Hamonic means this team can’t be competitive, then the team is garbage, sorry to say. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Top players have to be your top players. Half of ours have yet to show up at all, let alone on a consistent basis. This is a .500 team if the players play like they ought to. A better than .500 team with an NHL coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Coaching Yes. If you have a poor lineup it's difficult to blame the coach. But if your lineup improves and your still bad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Our goalies are great. Our D is competent with F backchecking better. Our bottom 6 is hard working. The problem for the team is very obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Jesus Christ, relax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, stawns said: Jesus Christ, relax I think this is the time to panic. This reminds me of the first year of Mike Gillis' tenure when Alain Vigneault was reeling from a bad losing streak. There is a real possibility that Travis Green may be fired. This would be a major risk to the team because his replacement may not do any better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB43 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) I spy with my little eye, something that is Green. Edited November 1, 2021 by EliasBoeser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 If you were Benning, what would you do? Fire Green now? (maybe hire Boudreau or Julien? or ?) Wait 20 games to decide? (if they're under .500) Wait until out of playoffs? I've bolded my opinion. Benning has got to be concerned, because of the great work he's done in the off season, getting rid of Loui, Beagle, and Roussel, and Virtanen leaving, and bringing in OEL, Garland, Dickinson, Poolman, etc. Green also has Podkolzin, so he's definitely got an improved lineup. If you include the preseason, with these improvements, Green has coached VAN to a 5-10-1 record C'mon man, is the bag skate all you got? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck-lifer Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 - Green and his new defense first system that should have been implemented last year or the year before.. - Petey not up to speed with the long gap between games- he had a slow start last year as well and got rolling - Brock just starting to produce after his injury - no Sutter/ Motte/ Hamonic so our PK/AHL bottom 6 is killing us - Podz needs time in AHL, he's not ready - Dickenson needs consistent line mates and an identity Positives - dual coyotes - Getting something for Juolevi- see he's injured again All the games are close and for the most part and we are improved in our own end outside of the passive PK cup half full feels they will win 2 of the next 3 games (fingers crossed!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Man, I really wish I could see things the way the optimists do. This team is not bad, but they sure aren't great. The coaching is not bad, but it sure isn't great. Last year the optimists were saying "Jake just needs another year, power forwards take longer to develop"... now he's gone so they are saying "were only 9 games in, good teams take longer to develop" This team has been outworked and outchanced in every game to start the season save for the Detroit one, which they lost. It's time to shake things up one way or another. A trade, a coaching change, a GM firing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Maddogy said: I think this is the time to panic. This reminds me of the first year of Mike Gillis' tenure when Alain Vigneault was reeling from a bad losing streak. There is a real possibility that Travis Green may be fired. This would be a major risk to the team because his replacement may not do any better. How would the replacement possibly be worse? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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