[Report] Mikhail Sergachev suspended 2 games

[-Vintage Canuck-]

[SergioMomesso]

Good solid hit.

 

But not in todays NHL

[Maginator]

Just the NHL covering their arses.

 

The game moves so quick, Segachev's last thought would be to try nudging him on his side.

 

I hope Marner is fine, it looked like it hurt. However, it's kind of a shame this is considered a violation these days. Hockey is changing for sure. I'm not saying this is a bad thing either. It's just different now.

[Strawbone]

Can't argue with this. Head was main point of contact, and I thought the video showed it well. This wasn't a blink-of-an-eye kind of thing either, Sergachev had time to know what he was doing.

[Alflives]

Marner is a really good player, who actually plays the game the right way.  Good hit though.  Just kind of clipped the chin.  MM will be fine. He's not a softy.  

[King Heffy]

Pretty fair for a first time offender.  Marner really should have also kept his head up though.  These new rules seem to make guys think they should have no responsibility for their own safety.

[CoquitlamDave]

Yep - was a hit to the head on a maple leaf all star.  Maybe we can remember this scenario as a precedent though.  I'm tired of seeing double standards constantly.  And i am NOT a bettman conspiracy theorist.   If a Canuck did it to an McDavid?  Probably more games.  If an American team player did it to Boeser?  No games.  

[EternalCanuckFan]

5 minutes ago, CoquitlamDave said:

Yep - was a hit to the head on a maple leaf all star.  Maybe we can remember this scenario as a precedent though.  I'm tired of seeing double standards constantly.  And i am NOT a bettman conspiracy theorist.   If a Canuck did it to an McDavid?  Probably more games.  If an American team player did it to Boeser?  No games.  

The lack of an identifiable standard has always been the problem such that I don't think we can even call things a double standard.  There is no articulable standard.  This is one of the few times I can remember of a hit like this without a resulting injury which ended up with a suspension.  The one thing I think can generally be agreed on now is that a hit that results with contact primarily with the head is illegal - whether it results in discipline beyond a penalty is a crapshoot.  There are certain kinds of hits that are more likely to result in the head being the primary point of contact and more likely to be suspended (this being one of them), but there's no consistency.

 

Personally I don't think Sergachev meant to hit Marner in the head but this is the kind of approach on a hit that the NHL has been warning about for awhile now, so Sergachev should have been aware of that.  He had time to identify that Hedman had already taken a penalty to take away a chance by Marner so there also wasn't really a need to check Marner in that fashion.  I think it's fair to suspend Sergachev for the hit but we'll see if this leads to anything resembling a more consistent approach to further discipline for hits to head.

[Phil_314]

18 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Marner is a really good player, who actually plays the game the right way.  Good hit though.  Just kind of clipped the chin.  MM will be fine. He's not a softy.  

That's what I'm thinking; he didn't actually hit Marner's head, it looked more shoulder to shoulder with the follow-through inevitably clipping his chin.  
There's been worse hits to the head for sure, and I think a major penalty would've sufficed.

[Ghostsof1915]

Man, Tampa will do anything to stay under the salary cap!

 

[timberz21]

43 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Pretty fair for a first time offender.  Marner really should have also kept his head up though.  These new rules seem to make guys think they should have no responsibility for their own safety.

When the guy is in possession of the puck yes he needs to keep his head up....in that case he's chasing the puck while being hooked off balance by another defender.  How is he suppose to keep his head up in that case.

 

Sergachev could've easily scoop up the puck instead as Marner lost it and couldn't even reach for it anymore.  

[UKNuck96]

The anti leaf bias on CDC is showing, MM was being hooked and sergachev had plenty of time to either take a loose puck or play the man, he played across the front and made contact with the head, 2 games is fair for this. There was no need to make the hit and if you are plenty of time to not hit the head. 
 

MM couldn’t keep his head up as he was being hooked at the same time so there is no blame to be associated with him on this one 

[King Heffy]

Just now, UKNuck96 said:

The anti leaf bias on CDC is showing, MM was being hooked and sergachev had plenty of time to either take a loose puck or play the man, he played across the front and made contact with the head, 2 games is fair for this. There was no need to make the hit and if you are plenty of time to not hit the head. 
 

MM couldn’t keep his head up as he was being hooked at the same time so there is no blame to be associated with him on this one 

I never said he should have made the hit and agreed the suspension was appropriate.

[Caboose]

No reason to make this hit. Play is completely dead, Hedman is basically stapled to Marner with his stick at this point.

 

I'd wonder if the above posters would call the hit/suspension soft had it been Pettersson or Boeser who got tagged.

[-AJ-]

Probably not intentional, but definitely direct head contact. I'd say the DOPS got it right here.

['NucK™]

2 hours ago, Phil_314 said:

That's what I'm thinking; he didn't actually hit Marner's head, it looked more shoulder to shoulder with the follow-through inevitably clipping his chin.  
There's been worse hits to the head for sure, and I think a major penalty would've sufficed.

Shoulder to shoulder? I think you need to watch it again... if it was actually shoulder to shoulder, there would've most likely been no head contact. 

[NHL'er]

For some reason I imagined Brendan Shannah still as Head of DOPS and reading this. 

[Gnarcore]

I was more blown away by the multiple obvious hooks by Hedman. That was fair though. Definitely a head hit. 

[Phil_314]

44 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said:

Shoulder to shoulder? I think you need to watch it again... if it was actually shoulder to shoulder, there would've most likely been no head contact. 

Maybe not strictly shoulder to shoulder in the traditional sense, but there was contact between their shoulders before Sergachev clipped Marner's chin on the drive through.  

Dangerous result no question, but I think of it as a separate and slightly lesser category than if a guy jumps or leads with the elbow to deliberately hit a guy in the face.  I also think that if the guy is leaning after the puck there inherently is a bit of a grey area as to the extent of punishment.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Phil_314

[Wilbur]

3 hours ago, CoquitlamDave said:

Yep - was a hit to the head on a maple leaf all star.  Maybe we can remember this scenario as a precedent though.  I'm tired of seeing double standards constantly.  And i am NOT a bettman conspiracy theorist.   If a Canuck did it to an McDavid?  Probably more games.  If an American team player did it to Boeser?  No games.  

Sven Baertschi agrees with this.