MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) I assumed that this kid killed someone with stray bullets or something like that. But if you look at the details, this is text book self defense. The case is fascinating strictly from a legal standpoint. Its not so fascinating from an emotional or political standpoint. Do I own guns ? No. And I don't want to. This kid is an idiot for going around with a gun. That's my Canadian view of it anyway. But there was hundreds of people with guns that night. The first guy he shot literally tried to wrestle the gun out of his hands. And there is pictures of the second guy with his hand on the gun. This is a video clip from the defense but it shows all of the footage pertinent to the case. Edited November 7, 2021 by MaxVerstappen33 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 In the first shooting, the victim Joseph Rosenbaum throws an improvised molotov cocktail at him and then gives chase to him. Rittenhouse runs away but is cornered between a building and some cars. Rosenbaum gets to within reaching distance and lunges for the gun. Rittenhouse shoots him. FBI surveillance photo showing Rosenbaum and Rittenhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 In the US anyway, the legality of the gun is irrelevant if the threshold of self defense has been met. So saying the kid shouldn't have been there , shouldn't have had the gun ect , doesn't invalidate a self defense. Classic Self-Defense: , whether the weapon used in self-defense is lawfully possessed doesn’t matter. The five core elements of self-defense – innocence, imminence, proportionality, avoidance, and reasonableness – don’t make any reference whatever to the legality or illegality of one’s defensive weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 the little creep went looking for trouble and killed someone. Manslaughter at a minimum. 1 11 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 Anthony Huber was the second person shot. Here he is beating on Rittenhouse with his skateboard. And then reaching for and getting a hand on the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post King Heffy Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 Not going even going to dignify this with a serious response. People trying to disarm terrorists such as this worthless piece of garbage are heroes. 2 8 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, JM_ said: the little creep went looking for trouble and killed someone. Manslaughter at a minimum. Manslaughter sure. But first or 2nd degree murder not a chance. The people he shot were literally attempting to take his gun. And got close to doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Manslaughter sure. But first or 2nd degree murder not a chance. The people he shot were literally attempting to take his gun. And got close to doing it. Because there was an armed domestic terrorist. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RUPERTKBD Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer. In any civilized country this would not even be in question... 1 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Because there was an armed domestic terrorist. Well one could argue both groups are at fault carrying guns.. But he is far from a domestic terrorist More like a vigilante. I think manslaughter is the best outcome for this case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Because there was an armed domestic terrorist. So you don't think self defense laws should exist ? According to the prosecutions own witness: Rosenbaum , who was released from a mental institution the day before, was acting in a "violent" manner that night, throwing rocks and trying to set fires. Balch said that in one earlier encounter, Rosenbaum threatened to kill him and Rittenhouse "if he caught them alone." Edited November 7, 2021 by MaxVerstappen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Heffy Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, drummer4now said: Well one could argue both groups are at fault carrying guns.. But he is far from a domestic terrorist More like a vigilante. I think manslaughter is the best outcome for this case. The only reason people are making excuses for him is because he's white. He's a textbook terrorist and should be executed for that garbage. I would argue the people trying to disarm this piece of $#&% are the vigilantes. Edited November 7, 2021 by King Heffy 5 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gnarcore Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Manslaughter sure. But first or 2nd degree murder not a chance. The people he shot were literally attempting to take his gun. And got close to doing it. A weapon he wasn't old enough to carry and brought across state lines. Then he used it on people. He may get off on one or two and guilty on another. This piece of $&!# is going to have to be in protective custody or he isn't surviving prison. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, King Heffy said: The only reason people are making excuses for him is because he's white. He's a textbook terrorist and should be executed for that garbage. I would argue the people trying to disarm this piece of $#&% are the vigilantes. No he really isn't. Subhuman scum? Yes. Deserving of a shank in prison? Sure. But the definition of terrorist doesn't apply. As per Oxford: The calculated use of violence or threat of violence to inculcate fear. Terrorism is intended to coerce or intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: No he really isn't. Subhuman scum? Yes. Deserving of a shank in prison? Sure. But the definition of terrorist doesn't apply. As per Oxford: The calculated use of violence or threat of violence to inculcate fear. Terrorism is intended to coerce or intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological. And if you look at why he was there in the first place, I would argue he qualifies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, stawns said: Uhh ok. I make a thread about one of the biggest trials in the world right now and state my opinion on it = trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Uhh ok. I make a thread about one of the biggest trials in the world right now and state my opinion on it = trolling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post You Mad Bro? Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 Self defence 2 2 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Manslaughter. If he wasn't old enough to carry that weapon get him on that too. Case closed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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