Popular Post Pears Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Uhh ok. I make a thread about one of the biggest trials in the world right now and state my opinion on it = trolling We aren’t stupid. We know what you’re trying to do. 1 2 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 4 hours ago, drummer4now said: Well one could argue both groups are at fault carrying guns.. But he is far from a domestic terrorist More like a vigilante. I think manslaughter is the best outcome for this case. On the remote chance that the god you believe in is real,how would he view this guys actions taking into account part of your belief system is an order from said god,thou shalt not kill ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Pretty sure the first victim threw a plastic bag at him. There was doctored images of it being on fire like a molotov. Kid is a murderer. Anyway, carry on. Actually, don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Sun Times had a good article about KR, personally i think he gets off murder or manslaughter charge. Probably gets convicted of lesser gun charge. This whole thing reminds me of play stupid games win stupid prizes saying. https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/11/5/22765491/kyle-rittenhouse-jury-self-defense 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) the kid shouldn't have been there with a rifle, but after watching the video footage, i don't feel bad for the victims at all. everyone in this case was looking for trouble the way i see it. they got it. Edited November 7, 2021 by Rubik 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Manslaughter sure. But first or 2nd degree murder not a chance. The people he shot were literally attempting to take his gun. And got close to doing it. we'll see. There's so much fake crap and politicization around this that, hopefully, this takes its time and they go through it all carefully and not base a decision on spin or doctored photos or video snippets that tell the story you want it to. Kids a creep tho, it's his fault for showing up that way. Edited November 7, 2021 by JM_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: Sun Times had a good article about KR, personally i think he gets off murder or manslaughter charge. Probably gets convicted of lesser gun charge. This whole thing reminds me of play stupid games win stupid prizes saying. https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/11/5/22765491/kyle-rittenhouse-jury-self-defense this part of the article says it all: Rittenhouse is such an idiot he never even suspected he was in over his head until it was too late. In fact, until the moment he shot Joseph Rosenbaum, that August night probably felt like the greatest of Rittenhouse’s life as he played the hero, toting around his big gun and his first aid kit, pretending he was a “medic” who was only there to help — parroting the first responder motto: “If there’s somebody hurt, I’m running into harm’s way.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubik Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 12 hours ago, King Heffy said: I would argue the people trying to disarm this piece of $#&% are the vigilantes. the kid was running towards the police the moment he realized he killed the first guy. whether that was justified self-defense, i don't know, imo that's the most crucial part here, but they'll decide that in court. but why would you want to disarm someone who's running towards the police? he was running past dozens of people, so it was clear he wasn't a threat to anyone, thus no need to play vigilante, but still, 3 or 4 guys started to chase him just the like first guy who got shot. nah man, at that point that had a lynching mob feel to me. kid would have been beaten to death for sure. you're one of the better posters here, you always seem very rational and i tend to agree with you most of the times, but calling him a domestic terrorist just makes no sense to me. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, JM_ said: this part of the article says it all: Rittenhouse is such an idiot he never even suspected he was in over his head until it was too late. In fact, until the moment he shot Joseph Rosenbaum, that August night probably felt like the greatest of Rittenhouse’s life as he played the hero, toting around his big gun and his first aid kit, pretending he was a “medic” who was only there to help — parroting the first responder motto: “If there’s somebody hurt, I’m running into harm’s way.” Wannabe cop, savior and protector. Also attacking a guy that has a long gun with a skateboard is a very bad idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_of_94 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: Wannabe cop, savior and protector. Also attacking a guy that has a long gun with a skateboard is a very bad idea. Another guy pulled a handgun on him and was shot as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Rubik said: the kid was running towards the police the moment he realized he killed the first guy So, think he will get in trouble for killing that first guy? A thrown plastic bag can't possibly be considered some sort of an assault that justifies self defense using deadly force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 11 hours ago, Pears said: We aren’t stupid. We know what you’re trying to do. Ok. I don't know what you mean but maybe I'll just stop posting in the thread. Seems too emotional for ppl. I thought it was just interesting from a legalistic standpoint. I passionately loath donald trump and support gun control but I guess I'll get labeled a trumphead anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 This will end up like the OJ trials. Kyle will be found not guilty of shooting and killing two people; but will serve time for illegally transporting that gun, that was not his, across state lines, while not being old enough to have possession of such a weapon. OJ didn't go to jail for killing his ex and her new man, but rather for stealing his own shirts back. Justice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Ok. I don't know what you mean but maybe I'll just stop posting in the thread. Seems too emotional for ppl. I thought it was just interesting from a legalistic standpoint. I passionately loath donald trump and support gun control but I guess I'll get labeled a trumphead anyway I think whatever the kids actions were when he got there, the big question is why show up like that in the 1st place. It should be a cautionary tale for any self-appointed police out there, and screams for gun training requirements in the US. It shouldn't be a surprise that just because you can buy an ar-15 from Walmart that you can get yourself into trouble when you start playing cop with no training. And what the hell kind of parents arm a teenage boy like this? holy cow. Edited November 7, 2021 by JM_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, gurn said: This will end up like the OJ trials. Kyle will be found not guilty of shooting and killing two people; but will serve time for illegally transporting that gun, that was not his, across state lines, while not being old enough to have possession of such a weapon. OJ didn't go to jail for killing his ex and her new man, but rather for stealing his own shirts back. Justice? I wonder why the parents aren't being charged..... if you arm your kid and he goes out and kills someone there should be liability there. Maybe that will happen if creepo gets convicted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, gurn said: This will end up like the OJ trials. Kyle will be found not guilty of shooting and killing two people; If you don't believe there is any case at all here for self defense then you must not believe in any concept of self defense laws. But self defense laws do exist whether you like them or not. Watch the video or listen to the prosecutions own witnesses. Not only can we see the first victim chase down, catch and lunch for the gun, according to the prosecutions own witness, Rosenbaum told Rittenhouse and his friend "If I see any of you alone, I will kill you" Edited November 7, 2021 by MaxVerstappen33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Ok. I don't know what you mean but maybe I'll just stop posting in the thread. Seems too emotional for ppl. I thought it was just interesting from a legalistic standpoint. I passionately loath donald trump and support gun control but I guess I'll get labeled a trumphead anyway Can you adjust your OP? There was no molotov cocktail. It was a plastic bag. Read about the trial, nobody is saying it was on fire. It seems he murdered someone for throwing a plastic bag at him. Here it is on the ground. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: If you don't believe there is any case at all here for self defense then you must not believe in any concept of self defense laws. But self defense laws do exist whether you like them or not. Thank you for telling me what I must not believe; that saves me a lot of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Just now, MaxVerstappen33 said: If you don't believe there is any case at all here for self defense then you must not believe in any concept of self defense laws. But self defense laws do exist whether you like them or not. that logic doesn't follow, at all. You can believe that the circumstances doesn't meet the standard of self-defence or what's reasonable. He knew he shouldn't have been armed in the first place. He knowingly walked into a volatile situation, illegally armed. He then went looking for trouble, on some sort of self-appointed mission. So we'll see what the evidence and process really shows, but you can't make this statement about self defence. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Can you adjust your OP? There was no molotov cocktail. It was a plastic bag. Read about the trial, nobody is saying it was on fire. It seems he murdered someone for throwing a plastic bag at him. Here it is on the ground. Watch the video. Its not pictures that are doctored. Unless you think the video is doctored. Which there is zero evidence to suggest 1:44 in https://www.bitchute.com/video/G7CycBXQIt2U/ Edited November 7, 2021 by MaxVerstappen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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