MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) This doesn't have to be a negative thread dwelling on the past. All teams have busts. Hodgson ? Virtanen ? Juolevi ? Who else is there ? Cody Hodgson had a high profile coming in. Very close to the profile Horvat had. The GM and the team were just as sure and just as happy to pick Hodgson as they were Horvat. But we all know how it turned out. Hodgson is 31 now. He would have been the bridge player between the Sedin era and the post Sedin era. So perhaps his bust hurt us the most. We put a lot of stock in our picks. It was just a #10 pick but we thought we had a franchise player. He scored some big goals against good goalies there for awhile. It looked like it could be true. Juolevi hurts a lot on paper because he was drafted at #5. That's just pain Edited November 7, 2021 by MaxVerstappen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNewGM Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 passing on mathew tchuck 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 The entire 2014 first round. Missed out on Pasta who was drafted right after McCann and there are a bunch of quality players between the Virtanen pick and the McCann pick. Tampa beat everyone with Point in the 3rd round though. What a steal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Jake Virtanen. Apparently we drafted Olli Juolevi in 2016 over Matthew Tkachuk because Jake was supposed to become our power forward. Incidentally Jake is lighting it up in the KHL...... 2021-22 Moscow Spartak KHL 17 games 8 goals 4 assists 12 points. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheNewGM said: passing on mathew tchuck Yeah. Why we went for a high risk D man I'll never know. It made sense roster wise I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: Jake Virtanen. Apparently we drafted Olli Juolevi in 2016 over Matthew Tkachuk because Jake was supposed to become our power forward. Incidentally Jake is lighting it up in the KHL...... 2021-22 Moscow Spartak KHL 17 games 8 goals 4 assists 12 points. That's why... Oh man. If Jake was the reason we drafted Juolevi then you are making a good case that Jake hurt the most. And Jake was the good Canadian kid, low risk. Local boy.. He is making $800,000 US which is basically NHL league minimum. So its hard to tell if he had any serious offers from the NHL at league minimum. Maybe the KHL will fix him and Detroit will sign him in 2 years Edited November 7, 2021 by MaxVerstappen33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2007 Patrick White 2000 Nathan Smith 1996 Josh Holden 1992 Libor Polasek 1990 Shawn Antoski 1989 Jason Herter 1986 Dan Woodley 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 If I have to choose between the 3, Juolevi. Hodgson wasn't going to push that team over the hump anyways. Virtanen at least got few hundred games in for us. If Juolevi panned out, then he would have been at least as good as Edler. Can you imagine? Hughes OEL young Edler on our LD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: The entire 2014 first round. Missed out on Pasta who was drafted right after McCann and there are a bunch of quality players between the Virtanen pick and the McCann pick. Tampa beat everyone with Point in the 3rd round though. What a steal. Thing is, McCann is hardly chopped liver. Sure, he's not a 'home run' like Pasta, but about a two base hit. 7 points in 8 games for the Kraken so far. Can play checking center (unlike say, Gaudette) & has the offensive skills to be a 2nd line winger. Virtanen was the one who layed an egg. Edited November 7, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, gurn said: 2007 Patrick White 2000 Nathan Smith 1996 Josh Holden 1992 Libor Polasek 1990 Shawn Antoski 1989 Jason Herter 1986 Dan Woodley I remember a little about Patrick White. He was part of the trade for Erhoff. He was 25th over all so not good odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Petr Nedved. The reason we drafted him over Jaromir Jagr was because apparently it was going to be difficult to get Jagr over from the Czech Republic. So we took Nedved at #2 overall. Then at #5 overall Pittsburgh drafted Jagr, who was actually in Pacific Coliseum and came down and put on a Penguins jersey. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Thing is, McCann is hardly chopped liver. Sure, he's not a 'home run' like Pasta, but about a two base hit. 7 points in 8 games for the Kraken. Can play checking center (unlike say, Gaudette) & has the offensive skills to be a 2nd line winger. Virtanen was the one who layed an egg. If the 2014 draft was redone based on points Mccan would go 19th over all. Which is better than Sam Bennet that the Flames took at 4th over all. David Pastrnak, RW, Boston Bruins would be the #1 pick (took 25th over all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Thing is, McCann is hardly chopped liver. Sure, he's not a 'home run' like Pasta, but about a two base hit. 7 points in 8 games for the Kraken so far. Can play checking center (unlike say, Gaudette) & has the offensive skills to be a 2nd line winger. Virtanen was the one who layed an egg. McCann was less of a bust and more of a miss of Pasta which is what I meant. Nothing on McCann but Pasta is a top winger. Virtanen hurts more for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: If the 2014 draft was redone based on points Mccan would go 19th over all. Which is better than Sam Bennet that the Flames took at 4th over all. David Pastrnak, RW, Boston Bruins would be the #1 pick (took 25th over all) 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Junkyard Dog said: McCann was less of a bust and more of a miss of Pasta which is what I meant. Nothing on McCann but Pasta is a top winger. Virtanen hurts more for sure. True. Though we still miss that center who can handle some of the duties that Horvat is forced to take. Edited November 7, 2021 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrCanuck94 Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 I won't call Hodgson a bust since he was battling medical conditions and was tracking well towards becoming a solid top 6 C (even after he left our organization) before that. I don't like the value we got back in the trade (Zack Kassian) which is similar to the reason of drafting Virtanen. Big body that can skate fast and has some skill that 'could' be the next Bertuzzi. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, MrCanuck94 said: I won't call Hodgson a bust since he was battling medical conditions and was tracking well towards becoming a solid top 6 C (even after he left our organization) before that. I don't like the value we got back in the trade (Zack Kassian) which is similar to the reason of drafting Virtanen. Big body that can skate fast and has some skill that 'could' be the next Bertuzzi. As underwhelming as Kassian turned out (which was clearly was), Virtanen can only dream to have his kind of "career" in the NHL at this point. Especially considering Virtanen's draft position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_of_94 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, khay said: If I have to choose between the 3, Juolevi. Hodgson wasn't going to push that team over the hump anyways. Virtanen at least got few hundred games in for us. If Juolevi panned out, then he would have been at least as good as Edler. Can you imagine? Hughes OEL young Edler on our LD? Hodgson was a loss but when he started failing we traded him for kassian and Kassian’s addiction issues got the best of him here... so it all played out. - Jake never lived up to his potential... character issues and the fanbase/organization didn’t seem to want to part with him, he had some okay seasons. nothing great. It is what it is. -Joulevi is the biggest bust because he should have never been a top 5 overall pick. He was a benefactor of playing on a London Squad featuring Dvorak, Marner and Tkatchuk. There was much better D-men available at his Spot (Sergachev, Macavoy & Chychrun). This fanbase incredibly defended him as a top 5 pick... true top 5 picks don’t need 5-7 years to develop. What did he have? 12 nhl games maybe on the 3rd pairing. In a league that’s getting younger and faster and 95% of players are done by age 34...... Joulevi is the modern day definition of a bust... and probably the highest drafted player in the last 10 drafts to bust. Edited November 7, 2021 by Bure_of_94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 55 minutes ago, TheNewGM said: passing on mathew tchuck And Sergachev, those two had NHL bodies ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: As underwhelming as Kassian turned out (which was clearly was), Virtanen can only dream to have his kind of "career" in the NHL at this point. Especially considering Virtanen's draft position. The Virtanen chapter isn't over yet. If he kills it in the KHL, he might get offers from NHL teams and get a tweener role than Kassian has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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