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[Hypothetical] Who should replace Travis Green?

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Ilya Mikheyev

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Who should replace Green as coach?  

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I think we're past the point of discussing whether Green should be fired, the question is... who should replace him? There's a strange dearth of experienced coaches that have also proven themselves to adapt to the modern era right now - whose your vote to replace Green?

 

Brad Shaw - Was brought in as a well-respected 'systems guy' to support current coaching staff. The special teams are a mess, but the Canucks' D does look improved somewhat from last year at this time (I mean...the bar was low). He knows the room already which could be viable for a mid-season replacement. Very limited head coaching exp (40 games). Has not been in charge of the absolute laughingstock special teams this year.

 

Trent Cull - Another 'in the system' guy. Has had limited success in the OHL and AHL. Has never won a championship or appeared in the finals as a head coach at either level, but has as an assistant coach in Syracuse. Watching Abbotsford it's hard to assess his coaching style IMO.

 

Randy Carlyle -  Cup winner in a different era - 2007. He did take the Ducks to the 3rd round as recently as 2017. Respected by Getzlaf and Perry for adapting to modern coaching styles. Before being fired in 2019 had 2 .600 winning percentage seasons. Was part of the Canucks' system long ago as Manitoba Moose team president.

 

Bruce 'Gabbi' Boudreau - Long reputation of reg. season success and playoff failure. But hey, a playoff game would look like success to the Canucks' rn. Coaches a somewhat similar system to Travis Green prior to this season's "style," and has a pretty good regular season winning percentage. Last coached in 2019-2020. Has been a mid-season replacement twice and put up winning records both times.

 

Rikard Gronberg - Rumours that he's talked to many teams over the last few years but doesn't have any NHL coaching exp. He's currently the coach of Zurich in Switzerland.

 

Claude Julien - Julien and Benning we're a part of the Boston Bruins together in the early 2010s. Famously won the cup against the Canucks. Lost the room in Montreal recently but is an experienced coach. Would be a very different system than Green, as he still relies heavily on a defense-first system. Questions whether the game has passed his style by. Also...remember the last time the Canucks hired the coach that beat them in the finals? But Benning is loyal to people he's liked previously, so it could happen.

 

Mike Johnston - The Canucks are very into Portland alumni and Mike Johnston has had huge success with that team - he'll do anything to win...even cheat. He had a decent record with Pittsburgh in his two years there. Kyle Gustafsson was his former assistant, so he has some familiarity w/ the coaching staff - esp. if it's Baumer, King and Green who are fired and the newer coaches kept on. Mike Johnston was an assistant coach for the Canucks during the WCE era.

 

Karl Taylor - was widely seen as the next coach to make a step from AHL to NHL. Had a 41-14 record last year (.714 winning percentage). His team is off to a slow start this year which may quiet the chatter.

 

John Stevens - Would need permission from Dallas to speak to him - but they're another team needing a shake-up so you never know. He's experienced in the NHL having been in various coaching positions since 2006. Has lots of playoff experience - including two cups in LA as an assistant, made the finals with Dallas in a surprise run recently. His son currently plays for the Abbotsford Canucks.

 

Rick Tocchet - hard to get a read on. Has been put in positions with absolutely brutal teams as a head coach. He did, shockingly, lead Arizona to one playoff appearance and they made it to the 2nd round. He did win a cup as an assistant in Pittsburgh - and back in the day coached the Forsberg-Sakic era Avs with a pretty good record. Tocchet, Johnston and Agnew (Abbotsford assistant) all worked together briefly in Pittsburgh - and Agnew also worked with Shaw - so maybe there's a variation of those four taking over the bench in the cards. Gritty player in his day.

 

Guy Boucher - famous for his 1-3-1 neutral zone clamp down. Last coached Ottawa in 2019. Added late to the poll.

 

Mike Babcock - widely decorated coach, three SCF appearances including a cup, in 29 seasons of coaching, he's only missed the playoffs 4 times. He's coached team Canada to a # of gold medals, including at the Vancouver Olympics. He is a possession-first coach, quite a bit different than Green. Famously called out for being a bully behind the bench, including by Chris Chelios - has not been back behind a bench since those accusations. Last coached Toronto in 2019. Added late to the poll

 

Dan Bylsma - Would have to seek Seattle's permission as he's an assistant on their AHL team. Cup winning coach in 2009 with the Pens. Was in Buffalo for the Eichel debacle - rumour that Eichel wouldn't play unless Bylsma was replaced. He was then fired and took an assistant job with the Red Wings during the first years of a rebuild. His regular season winning percentage with the Pens was very solid. Kind of looks like a poor man's Paul Maurice. Added late to the poll

 

Brent Sutter - Is it time for Sutter vs Sutter in this division? Brent stepped down from being the Rebel's coach in April (continues as GM), gave the reins to his assistants and his nephew Shaun Sutter (son of Brian). Sutter has had lots of success at the WHL level and junior international. He coached in the NHL between 2007-2012. He managed to squeeze a lot of wins out of the New Jersey roster he was given, but was unable to get CGY a postseason berth despite decent regular season records. Of course, his son Brandon is part of the Canucks' org, and his brother Rich Sutter played a few seasons in a Canucks' uni. Added late to the poll

 

Patrick Roy - hired representation this spring who usually deal in NHL management/coaching, has expressed interested in returning to the league. Has 3 years of NHL coaching exp., and in his rookie coaching year he won the Jack Adams. He quit two years later citing lack of input on personnel decisions (and his record wasn't great at that time).

 

Spencer Carbery - would need permission to speak to Toronto. He's their assistant coach right now after coaching 3 years in the AHL for Hershey. He's running Toronto's PK right now, which is 7th in the league at 86%. He's a BC boy from Victoria.

 

Lane Lambert - Longtime Barry Trotz assistant in Nashville, Washington and NYI. Would need Islanders' permission to talk to him - but Trotz has said he wouldn't be surprised if Lambert got a call to take over a bench in the league. Was an assistant on the Capitals cup winning team.

 

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IMO Shaw as interim coach and revisit in the offseason/as better candidates become available,. As none of those options really look like much/any actual improvement, just change.

 

Then maybe hope someone good shakes loose elsewhere or Quenneville goes in to counseling, does a bunch of ongoing charitable work to promote safe and fair play in sport and raises money to help victims to make himself remotely hire-able again.

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4 minutes ago, aGENT said:

IMO Shaw as interim coach and revisit in the offseason/as better candidates become available,. As none of those options really look like much/any actual improvement, just change.

 

Then maybe hope someone good shakes loose elsewhere or Quenneville goes in to counseling, does a bunch of ongoing charitable work to promote safe and fair play in sport and raises money to help victims to make himself remotely hire-able again.

No Thanks on Coach Q, scandal aside, my hatred for him from coaching Chicago during our heated rivalry will never subside.  

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It seems like the Canucks have been linked to Stevens forever. 

 

I'm probably the biggest Green fan around, it looks like just like any other coach, his time is up. No question Benning will be axed if the Canucks miss the playoffs, so if there's a coach hired its either an interim, or its a Franceso appointed guy

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20 minutes ago, Maginator said:

Marc Crawford.

 

This team needs a run and gun offence where the players have liberty to use their individual talent over a dump & chase system.

This would make most sense to me, but I think there are some delicate issues going back to the Bertuzzi/Moore incident that would make this scenario virtually impossible. But I'd like to be wrong about that. 

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