Cancel Culture Srikes Again

[Ghostsof1915]

26 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Shes a lizard person.

 

You can tell by her crooked eyes and doughy, skinny-fat human suit. 

She from V? 

[VC420]

So many things get lumped together these days and so many things are just tossed to one side or the other, White privilege this, cancel culture that, critical race theory, white supremacy that, islamophobia this. 

 

I don't give two f***s about any of it, I don't care what side you belong to, what politics you believe, what skin colour you are, what religion you believe or any other crazy thing you believe or any of that gunk we use to judge people by.

 

I don't know anything about the people involved, and I doubt most of us do as well. What is her favorite colour? Whats her favourite movie? What life has she lived? Who has she loved? So many people calling other human beings lizard folk while insisting we should treat people with respect. Respect should be given, not earned. If we all wait for the other side to show respect before giving it, then we end up with a world with no respect.

 

People saying that the event could trigger violence, true, but canceling it could trigger violence from people who are upset by it being cancelled. Fact is that people who are prone to violence will take any excuse to cause it, we cant avoid that, you cant let fear decide those things because we are telling violent people that threats of violence work, that we allow ourselves to be controlled by violence. Those who are afraid of violence are doomed to be controlled by it.

 

I say let people have their platforms for crazy ideas. Im not afraid of them, I will show up and laugh at them the whole time if I think their crazy. The thing we should all be warry of is that cancelling events we don't like sounds like a good idea until the people in charge decide the things you like aren't allowed. If you think that cancelling this event is good, then I expect no complaints from you if the shoe is ever on the other foot.

 

I would agree however that events that actively promote engaging in violence and harm should be cancelled. It has to be obvious violence though, no reading between the line excuses because than there is no guideline and anyone could justify anything as violence with "I think" statements. 

 

 

Also I don't get why so many people now refer to the "okay" sign as a racist symbol now. The earliest mention about that was from a reddit user who started a thread claiming it was and then later stated that he wasn't serious and just trolling, yet for some reason its a thing now. Just like the first flat earther theories were trolls on the internet who got people looking for a conspiracy to believe dumb stuff. People who don't like this lady will find believe any reason to attack her and associate anything she does as "this equals bad".

We all just assume that people we don't like are bad people because we all believe that we are good people and that we believe in good things therefore people who believe differently are bad and believe bad things. Its terrible logic and treats people like robots that are programmed wrong, it allows so much violence and I worry we are trending closer to world that believes "If youre not with me youre against me"

 

I want to have nothing but love, compassion, respect and empathy for all people, whether its Lauren Southern or someone on the exact opposite side like an AOC. 

Though, im not so proud as to not admit that it isn't easy sometimes. 

 

Im not afraid of ideas, im not afraid of Lauren Southern and im not afraid of backlash I may receive for any comment I make. I would prefer a CDC forum that sticks to positive topics and spreading love anddoesn't start pages just to attack some girl or anyone just for being a little wacko unless its hockey related

 

Anyhow, I would say keep your chin up for anyone who supports Ms.Southern and I would ask those who don't not to gloat too hard about her events getting cancelled.

 

So how about that hockey sport, eh? I hear its pretty good.

 

Saturday night and the Canucks need a big response, this could be the season defining game. Go Canuck Go!!! Hope you guys are amped up as well.

 

 

 

 

 

[Alflives]

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Edited November 14, 2021 by Alflives

[Alflives]

7 minutes ago, VC420 said:

So many things get lumped together these days and so many things are just tossed to one side or the other, White privilege this, cancel culture that, critical race theory, white supremacy that, islamophobia this. 

 

I don't give two f***s about any of it, I don't care what side you belong to, what politics you believe, what skin colour you are, what religion you believe or any other crazy thing you believe or any of that gunk we use to judge people by.

 

I don't know anything about the people involved, and I doubt most of us do as well. What is her favorite colour? Whats her favourite movie? What life has she lived? Who has she loved? So many people calling other human beings lizard folk while insisting we should treat people with respect. Respect should be given, not earned. If we all wait for the other side to show respect before giving it, then we end up with a world with no respect.

 

People saying that the event could trigger violence, true, but canceling it could trigger violence from people who are upset by it being cancelled. Fact is that people who are prone to violence will take any excuse to cause it, we cant avoid that, you cant let fear decide those things because we are telling violent people that threats of violence work, that we allow ourselves to be controlled by violence. Those who are afraid of violence are doomed to be controlled by it.

 

I say let people have their platforms for crazy ideas. Im not afraid of them, I will show up and laugh at them the whole time if I think their crazy. The thing we should all be warry of is that cancelling events we don't like sounds like a good idea until the people in charge decide the things you like aren't allowed. If you think that cancelling this event is good, then I expect no complaints from you if the shoe is ever on the other foot.

 

I would agree however that events that actively promote engaging in violence and harm should be cancelled. It has to be obvious violence though, no reading between the line excuses because than there is no guideline and anyone could justify anything as violence with "I think" statements. 

 

 

Also I don't get why so many people now refer to the "okay" sign as a racist symbol now. The earliest mention about that was from a reddit user who started a thread claiming it was and then later stated that he wasn't serious and just trolling, yet for some reason its a thing now. Just like the first flat earther theories were trolls on the internet who got people looking for a conspiracy to believe dumb stuff. People who don't like this lady will find believe any reason to attack her and associate anything she does as "this equals bad".

We all just assume that people we don't like are bad people because we all believe that we are good people and that we believe in good things therefore people who believe differently are bad and believe bad things. Its terrible logic and treats people like robots that are programmed wrong, it allows so much violence and I worry we are trending closer to world that believes "If youre not with me youre against me"

 

I want to have nothing but love, compassion, respect and empathy for all people, whether its Lauren Southern or someone on the exact opposite side like an AOC. 

Though, im not so proud as to not admit that it isn't easy sometimes. 

 

Im not afraid of ideas, im not afraid of Lauren Southern and im not afraid of backlash I may receive for any comment I make. I would prefer a CDC forum that sticks to positive topics and spreading love anddoesn't start pages just to attack some girl or anyone just for being a little wacko unless its hockey related

 

Anyhow, I would say keep your chin up for anyone who supports Ms.Southern and I would ask those who don't not to gloat too hard about her events getting cancelled.

 

So how about that hockey sport, eh? I hear its pretty good.

 

Saturday night and the Canucks need a big response, this could be the season defining game. Go Canuck Go!!! Hope you guys are amped up as well.

 

 

 

 

 

These are definitely lizard people, who live on a flat earth, huff bleach, and enjoy a bit of horse dewormer with their evening fish tank cleaner night cap.  These are the lowest of the low.  The dumbest of the dumb.  The loserest of the losers.  And NO.  They don’t deserve respect.  That’s just stupid.  Do Hitler Nazi lovers deserve respect?  Stupid. 

[VC420]

Just now, Alflives said:

 

Why are you calling me stupid? I have never done or said anything bad to you or about you. 

 

I hope that you would be a nice person if we ever met in person.

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, VC420 said:

Why are you calling me stupid? I have never done or said anything bad to you or about you. 

 

I hope that you would be a nice person if we ever met in person.

Never said you were stupid.  I said it’s a stupid concept to automatically respect others who don’t earn it.  Do you respect Nazi loving racists?  Do you respect pedophiles?  It’s a “stupid idea”.  

These people are stupid people, who definitely do not deserve respect.  

[King Heffy]

50 minutes ago, VC420 said:

So many things get lumped together these days and so many things are just tossed to one side or the other, White privilege this, cancel culture that, critical race theory, white supremacy that, islamophobia this. 

 

I don't give two f***s about any of it, I don't care what side you belong to, what politics you believe, what skin colour you are, what religion you believe or any other crazy thing you believe or any of that gunk we use to judge people by.

 

I don't know anything about the people involved, and I doubt most of us do as well. What is her favorite colour? Whats her favourite movie? What life has she lived? Who has she loved? So many people calling other human beings lizard folk while insisting we should treat people with respect. Respect should be given, not earned. If we all wait for the other side to show respect before giving it, then we end up with a world with no respect.

 

People saying that the event could trigger violence, true, but canceling it could trigger violence from people who are upset by it being cancelled. Fact is that people who are prone to violence will take any excuse to cause it, we cant avoid that, you cant let fear decide those things because we are telling violent people that threats of violence work, that we allow ourselves to be controlled by violence. Those who are afraid of violence are doomed to be controlled by it.

 

I say let people have their platforms for crazy ideas. Im not afraid of them, I will show up and laugh at them the whole time if I think their crazy. The thing we should all be warry of is that cancelling events we don't like sounds like a good idea until the people in charge decide the things you like aren't allowed. If you think that cancelling this event is good, then I expect no complaints from you if the shoe is ever on the other foot.

 

I would agree however that events that actively promote engaging in violence and harm should be cancelled. It has to be obvious violence though, no reading between the line excuses because than there is no guideline and anyone could justify anything as violence with "I think" statements. 

 

 

Also I don't get why so many people now refer to the "okay" sign as a racist symbol now. The earliest mention about that was from a reddit user who started a thread claiming it was and then later stated that he wasn't serious and just trolling, yet for some reason its a thing now. Just like the first flat earther theories were trolls on the internet who got people looking for a conspiracy to believe dumb stuff. People who don't like this lady will find believe any reason to attack her and associate anything she does as "this equals bad".

We all just assume that people we don't like are bad people because we all believe that we are good people and that we believe in good things therefore people who believe differently are bad and believe bad things. Its terrible logic and treats people like robots that are programmed wrong, it allows so much violence and I worry we are trending closer to world that believes "If youre not with me youre against me"

 

I want to have nothing but love, compassion, respect and empathy for all people, whether its Lauren Southern or someone on the exact opposite side like an AOC. 

Though, im not so proud as to not admit that it isn't easy sometimes. 

 

Im not afraid of ideas, im not afraid of Lauren Southern and im not afraid of backlash I may receive for any comment I make. I would prefer a CDC forum that sticks to positive topics and spreading love anddoesn't start pages just to attack some girl or anyone just for being a little wacko unless its hockey related

 

Anyhow, I would say keep your chin up for anyone who supports Ms.Southern and I would ask those who don't not to gloat too hard about her events getting cancelled.

 

So how about that hockey sport, eh? I hear its pretty good.

 

Saturday night and the Canucks need a big response, this could be the season defining game. Go Canuck Go!!! Hope you guys are amped up as well.

 

 

 

 

 

Lauren Southern deserves absolutely zero respect.  Some people are simply evil pieces of trash that will make the world a better place when they die; that neo-Nazi oxygen thief is one of them.   I have all the love, compassion, respect, and empathy for all the targets of this subhuman c****'s hate speech.

[VC420]

43 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Never said you were stupid.  I said it’s a stupid concept to automatically respect others who don’t earn it.  Do you respect Nazi loving racists?  Do you respect pedophiles?  It’s a “stupid idea”.  

These people are stupid people, who definitely do not deserve respect.  

The last sentence was "Stupid." Say it out loud and it sounds like its targeting an indivual. ex: "That's a dumb idea. Stupid"  say it loud and it sounds bad like youre calling someone you respond to stupid. I struggle with reading so I read aloud and it sometimes puts things especially comments inot a perspective that may not have be intended.

 

Sorry, if I took things too literal. 

 

But yes I would show a Nazi respect. Showing respect doesn't mean you don't think someone shouldn't be punished for a crime or that you like them. I would escort Hitler to his jail cell without harassing him, I would feed him without spitting in his food, all while I await his execution.

 

I find the whole Nazi history to be extraordinarily sad as well. Its sad that people who were once happy bouncing little babies could fall so far from grace and stop respecting other human beings because of religion or politics.

Im a human and they were human. Treat others the way you would want the people you love treated I say, because unfortunately there are people who hate themselves.

 

The worst offenders among the Nazis deserved the death penalty, nothing less and nothing more. There was a german fighter pilot who escorted a damaged US bomber out of battle defying his orders to shoot it down, I cant remember his name at the moment (there is a Sabaton song about him) but I think he deserves loads of respect. Also Nazi has started to become a catch all-term, when Jews are getting called Nazi's these days it shows how little people care about what actual Nazi's did. When you say Nazi do you mean german soldiers, anyone who voted for the party or just the top brass, guys like Himler. 

 

I just thought a canucks forum topic just to dogpile some lady whos event got cancelled to be in poor taste. Her event got cancelled, she lost, let it go and maybe instead start building up and supporting things we love. Im no fan of AOC, but I don't go around gloating when she takes an L or create topics to rag on her.

Spend more time supporting the things you love and less time cra**ing on things you hate.

 

I was miserable and angry for years, hating everyone and thing that didn't support or agree with me, I was always looking for someone or to argue with or something to be angry about. I went through a major depression but have started fight my way out of it by doing the things I love. Its why I have only recently gotten back onto the forums, I love hockey and I wanted to get back to the community and share my thoughts with fellow Canuck fans. This hatred isn't something I like to see and it upsets me when I see people I would like to believe are kind, compassionate and caring hockey fans spend their time attacking some girl none of us have ever met. 

 

Maybe, I asked for it clicking on this thread, I thought it was going to be troll or joke forum and instead I see nothing but lizard folk this and garbage human that.

 

I don't know, maybe I am the bad guy for advocating love and compassion, maybe I am stupid. But I would rather be stupid that loves instead of stupid that hates.

Sorry to get preachy, I just see so much of my old self I would rather forget in this topic that I may have taken to it too personally. I have always been the devils advocate as well, so that doesn't help.

 

Im not trying to judge anyone, you are free to believe what you want and I support your right to do so  Maybe I should take a break and practice some guitar or something.

 

Take it easy and have a good one. Hopefully I will see you end everyone else around on the Post Game thread with something good to talk about. Go Canucks Go!!!

Edited November 14, 2021 by VC420

[YEGCanuck]

5 hours ago, Alflives said:

Why did these idiots adopt the “okay” sign for their secret handshake?  Is there no way we can send these losers packing to the land of freedumb USA?  

If I remember correctly that is the same sign Rodney Dangerfield used in his comedy routine.

[Dazzle]

4 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

The people yelling "cancel culture" when these people are "cancelled" are awfully quiet with examples of "cancel culture" from their side/supporters.  Like  this from a few days ago:


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/some-right-it-s-time-revisit-book-banning-burning-n1283724

For some on the right, it's time to revisit book banning (and burning)

A county school board in Virginia directed staff to remove LGBTQ books. Some board members wanted to "burn" them. It's part of a larger pattern.

That's such a good point. The same people who rage at cancel culture likely will have no problems 'cancelling' some rival because of something they did. I'm not saying it's necessarily 'right' or 'wrong' to cancel someone based on their past; I'm saying it's one giant hypocrisy.

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

How have we not cancelled our PM yet? 

[thedestroyerofworlds]

12 minutes ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said:

How have we not cancelled our PM yet? 

Something...Something...The alternatives in the last couple elections were way less appealing.  Have you seen the milk toast blah blah blah "leader" the CONs gave us?   One party’s MPs have a anti-vaxx problem.

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6236263

 

Small number of Conservative MPs still unvaccinated with just weeks left before Commons resumes

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

53 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Something...Something...The alternatives in the last couple elections were way less appealing.  Have you seen the milk toast blah blah blah "leader" the CONs gave us?   One party’s MPs have a anti-vaxx problem.

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6236263

 

Small number of Conservative MPs still unvaccinated with just weeks left before Commons resumes

Uhh thanks for the random information.

Has nothing to do with what I'm talking about and don't care about no conservatives.

 

I'm talking about Blackface/Brownface Trudeau.

[King Heffy]

46 minutes ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said:

Uhh thanks for the random information.

Has nothing to do with what I'm talking about and don't care about no conservatives.

 

I'm talking about Blackface/Brownface Trudeau.

What viable alternatives have been presented?

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

4 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

What viable alternatives have been presented?

Maybe someone who hasn't publicly committed something racially insensitive and downright offensive?

I'm talking about cancel culture on public figures if they had done things in the past or present that offends the LGBTQ and has had a history of committing racist acts.

 

You can talk about Black Lives Matter but think it's alright to commit (yes I will say commit) Blackface on a multitude of occassions when you're old enough to realize it's not right and considered a racist act.

You can try and profess being sorry for the indigenous peoples yet take the inauguaral reconciliation day as a paid vacation for you and your family instead of meeting up with tribal leaders (as the leader of the country) and actually at least take some action to think about the residential school atrocities on that day. 

 

The same people that speak up so passionately against the "racist, insensitive" acts of certain people are the same people who ignore Trudeau's shady past. 

Not saying this person shouldn't be cancelled because she should not have even been invited in the first place, but there is a double standard there.

 

As for what viable alternatives have been presented? What, are you talking about for the PM? IDK. You choose. That wasn't the main point.

[King Heffy]

6 minutes ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said:

Maybe someone who hasn't publicly committed something racially insensitive and downright offensive?

I'm talking about cancel culture on public figures if they had done things in the past or present that offends the LGBTQ and has had a history of committing racist acts.

 

You can talk about Black Lives Matter but think it's alright to commit (yes I will say commit) Blackface on a multitude of occassions when you're old enough to realize it's not right and considered a racist act.

You can try and profess being sorry for the indigenous peoples yet take the inauguaral reconciliation day as a paid vacation for you and your family instead of meeting up with tribal leaders (as the leader of the country) and actually at least take some action to think about the residential school atrocities on that day. 

 

The same people that speak up so passionately against the "racist, insensitive" acts of certain people are the same people who ignore Trudeau's shady past. 

Not saying this person shouldn't be cancelled because she should not have even been invited in the first place, but there is a double standard there.

 

As for what viable alternatives have been presented? What, are you talking about for the PM? IDK. You choose. That wasn't the main point.

Entirely the point when thee have been no viable candidates fielded.  JT may not be perfect, but you're on glue if you think O'Toole or Scheer aren't racist sacks of ****.  I would like him replaced as PM but not at the expense of electing a neo-Nazi to destroy the country.

[CBH1926]

7 hours ago, Alflives said:

These are stupid people, and we don’t want them in our city, Province, or Country.  They can go to Texas and Florida

Nah, keep your dummies in your country, we got plenty down here.

 

[CBH1926]

Alf sounds angry, he must be out of scotch or he has been watching too much $&!#ty hockey.

[CBH1926]

10 hours ago, Alflives said:

Yes the girl is pretty ... PRETTY STUPID!  Get the hell out of Canada little miss “pretty stupid”.  

She took your advice and moved to Australia, now she is @Ilunga‘s problem.

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

2 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Entirely the point when thee have been no viable candidates fielded.  JT may not be perfect, but you're on glue if you think O'Toole or Scheer aren't racist sacks of ****.  I would like him replaced as PM but not at the expense of electing a neo-Nazi to destroy the country.

No that wasn't the point. Since I have to simplify it for you, I'll do it one more time. 

I was talking about the general idea of cancel culture and shunning of public figures. It doesn't just end there, it also ends with these individuals being completely removed from their position of influence as well.

There are people that literally will call out others for being racist but will bleed for Trudeau. 

 

I'm talking about the hypocrisy. If in an alternate universe, Trudeau was a right wing politician and did those same things, he would be crucified to no end (which he should) and might've been removed as PM with the public outrage of cancel culture if it got that far.

Blackface is not a joke. It shouldn't be one of those things that you just let pass by and say "yeah, he's not perfect". Oh. Coincidence. That's what you're saying. 

 

What, you think Blackface is not serious enough? Is it not serious enough for you call it like it is and state that Trudeau is a racially insensitive moron?

Yet, you so easily call out Scheer and O'toole for being nasty racists. 

 

and fyi, I'm a neutral, neither a conservative or a liberal but lol.

So you're saying the entire conservative party are neo-nazis and the majority of Canadian voters are neo-nazi supporters.

 

You're not the one on glue? Good god.