Doogie Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) Proposal 1: To Van 2022 1st Round Pick 2023 1st Round Pick Ty Smith Siegenthaler Why Vancouver does this: The return for Hughes would fill the third pairing LD and Second pairing RD while also adding two first round draft picks for the next trade. To Devils Hughes Why the Devils do this: The opportunity to have all three Hughes on the team (at a premium) but also adding Hughes offensive talents. Proposal 2 To Van Chychrun Why Vancouver does this: They shed Myers contract while adding a great two-way defender for second pairing LD. To Coyotes 2022 1st Round Pick (Devils) 2022 1st Round Pick (Van) 2023 2nd round Pick (Van) Myers Rathbone Why the coyotes do this? The coyotes add 2 more first round picks in the upcoming Shane Wright draft. While also adding a serviceable D in Myers and a young LD with potential in Rathbone not to mention a second round draft pick in the upcoming draft. Proposal 3 To Van Cernak 2022 3rd Round Pick Why Vancouver does this: They add Cernak. To Tampa 2023 1st Round Pick (Devils) Hamonic Woo Why Tampa does this: Add a good stay at home defender in Hamonic, plus futures in Woo (eventual Hamonic replacement) and a 1st round draft pick. OEL - Cernak Chychrun - Smyth Siegenthaler - Poolman Edited November 16, 2021 by Doogie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nuckin_futz Posted November 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2021 Even @Patel Bure is chuckling at this. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Fixing the D? I found taking the blue pill works but one should consult their GP first. Oh, you're talking about the Canucks blueline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Why does TB trade Cernak? Also I doubt the guys on the team view management any better if they trade Hughes for picks and lesser guys after they just signed Quinn to be a cornerstone offensive guy. What message does that send to the team? I like Chychrun but might prefer him for Hughes instead of trading multiple assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Phil_314 said: Why does TB trade Cernak? Also I doubt the guys on the team view management any better if they trade Hughes for picks and lesser guys after they just signed Quinn to be a cornerstone offensive guy. What message does that send to the team? I like Chychrun but might prefer him for Hughes instead of trading multiple assets. I think Hughes hasn't played that badly myself this season (unlike the other contract holdout). But maybe it's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Fixing the D? I found taking the blue pill works but one should consult their GP first. Oh, you're talking about the Canucks blueline. Bringing in players that play both sides often helps fix the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Doogie said: Proposal 1: To Van 2022 1st Round Pick 2023 1st Round Pick Ty Smith Siegenthaler Why Vancouver does this: The return for Hughes would fill the third pairing LD and Second pairing RD while also adding two first round draft picks for the next trade. To Devils Hughes Why the Devils do this: The opportunity to have all three Hughes on the team (at a premium) but also adding Hughes offensive talents. Proposal 2 To Van Chychrun Why Vancouver does this: They shed Myers contract while adding a great two-way defender for second pairing LD. To Coyotes 2022 1st Round Pick (Devils) 2022 1st Round Pick (Van) 2023 2nd round Pick (Van) Myers Rathbone Why the coyotes do this? The coyotes add 2 more first round picks in the upcoming Shane Wright draft. While also adding a serviceable D in Myers and a young LD with potential in Rathbone not to mention a second round draft pick in the upcoming draft. Proposal 3 To Van Cernak 2022 3rd Round Pick Why Vancouver does this: They add Cernak. To Tampa 2023 1st Round Pick (Devils) Hamonic Woo Why Tampa does this: Add a good stay at home defender in Hamonic, plus futures in Woo (eventual Hamonic replacement) and a 1st round draft pick. OEL - Cernak Chychrun - Smyth Siegenthaler - Poolman Is your name actually Doobie? It would make sense then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Doogie said: Proposal 1: To Van 2022 1st Round Pick 2023 1st Round Pick Ty Smith Siegenthaler Why Vancouver does this: The return for Hughes would fill the third pairing LD and Second pairing RD while also adding two first round draft picks for the next trade. To Devils Hughes Why the Devils do this: The opportunity to have all three Hughes on the team (at a premium) but also adding Hughes offensive talents. Proposal 2 To Van Chychrun Why Vancouver does this: They shed Myers contract while adding a great two-way defender for second pairing LD. To Coyotes 2022 1st Round Pick (Devils) 2022 1st Round Pick (Van) 2023 2nd round Pick (Van) Myers Rathbone Why the coyotes do this? The coyotes add 2 more first round picks in the upcoming Shane Wright draft. While also adding a serviceable D in Myers and a young LD with potential in Rathbone not to mention a second round draft pick in the upcoming draft. Proposal 3 To Van Cernak 2022 3rd Round Pick Why Vancouver does this: They add Cernak. To Tampa 2023 1st Round Pick (Devils) Hamonic Woo Why Tampa does this: Add a good stay at home defender in Hamonic, plus futures in Woo (eventual Hamonic replacement) and a 1st round draft pick. OEL - Cernak Chychrun - Smyth Siegenthaler - Poolman So unrealistic. Why would arizona trade Chychurun? Why would Canucks trade Hughes for Ty Smith? Doesnt even make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I'd stop after the 2nd one, although I'd also be insisting on Bahl coming back from New Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: I think Hughes hasn't played that badly myself this season (unlike the other contract holdout). But maybe it's just me. Hughes and OEL are the only ones that are decent and Hughes is needed because he provides the most offense. Anyone trading Hughes is out of their mind. I would not trade him unless its for Makar or Fox or Hedman. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Your solution to fixing our defense is trading Hughes? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hero11 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I just threw up in my mouth a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Fixing our D needs to be a long term solution. We don't have many young assets or draft picks as Jimmy has traded alot of those away. I knew our blue line was in trouble before the season started. Hughes and OEL are fine, Myers is holding his own at times but the rest of our D core are fringe NHLers (Burroughs, Poolman, Hunt, Schenn, Rathbone). We have one of the highest paid bluelines in the league and they are the worst defensively....not a good sign. People will defend Jim aggressively on here, but we've been rebuilding for 8 years and still can't compete and we all knew this blue line was not good enough heading into the season. Yes this team is way underperforming offensively, but defensively I am not surprised at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 14 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: I think Hughes hasn't played that badly myself this season (unlike the other contract holdout). But maybe it's just me. I agree, he's looked better. My thinking is that (outside the OEL Myers pair which has been solid), we don't really have other strong defenders that can hold down the fort while Quinn roves up ice without us giving up a scoring chance in our end. That will be even more true in the post-season, since as elite as Quinn's puck-moving is, we could really use some shoring up defensively after the past couple of games (granted it'll take a system change, but I digress at this point). Chychrun stands at 6'2", 210 lbs, and put up 41 points in 56 games last season with competent teammates so by no means is he chopped liver, and seeing how we've somewhat recouped value for OEL I think there's potential for a major steal if we can get him (not to mention how much stronger our defense would look): OEL - Myers (don't fix one of the few things that ain't broken) Chychrun - Hamonic (on paper at least this looks like a strong defensive pair) Rathbone - Poolman (I'd be okay with an offensive oriented guy like Rath as long as there's bigger and defensive minded guys above to shelter him) Going back to the playoff point, contenders (TB, NYI, VGK to name a few) typically have sizeable and mobile defenses that can play different games, whereas I just don't know if Quinn will hold up long term (even Boston when they had Torey Krug had other big guys who played defense around him, and their unit as a whole isn't nearly as porous as we are). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 7:59 PM, NewbieCanuckFan said: I think Hughes hasn't played that badly myself this season (unlike the other contract holdout). But maybe it's just me. It's not just you, Hughes has been just fine. I'm looking forward to 5 more years in a Canuck uniform. OP you have proposed one of the least likely sequence of events, but it's okay to dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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