J.I.A.H.N Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) First off, we are just in a pickle, if we wait to compete, even 2 years, we are less someone off our 1st 2 lines, just to be able to re-sign others, in addition OEL is 2 years older, which makes us that much weaker, in 2 years. So my next question is, who from our prospects is going to come up and fill those voids, or make us stronger. Sorry to say, but we are pretty empty on those types of prospects, and honestly we are just crossing our fingers for any of our current prospects to come in and make any significant difference. My conclusion on this problem, is we either spend assets we can not afford to loose (aka B-prospects or 1st round picks) or trade valuable players that would normally be part of the remedy. In either way, we are pouched, screwed, and in a mess, if our goal is to be actually competing for the cup, as our current assembly of players fall short. Honestly can anyone see, this team, going any further than a 1st round, if we are that lucky? I think you really have to look at this situation, and be honest with our selves, if we want the answer. Now, I am not advocating which way we should go in this thread, but merely suggesting we are in a mess. If we are going to try and compete, we need to fix 2 glaring problems, #1 faceoffs and a #2 -type of RHD. I think finding a face off guy short term is pretty easy, as we could get Beagle back for face offs, for very little, and we could have his contract at 50% for not much more, as it would only be for the remainder of the season, after which, I am sure we could re-sign him cheap. Now, before you dump on that, think about his fitness level, which is pretty impressive, and his 60@ Face off percentage. Not to mention his leadership qualities. I am sure we could shelter his even strength minutes, to some extent. Trade #1 Beagle @ 50% for Winnipeg's 3rd Now, fixing the 2nd and most important problem comes with peril, but it does solve our RHD problem immediately. I have been torn about whether it is best to move Boeser, who is young, or Miller who is older and closer to UFA years. We would certainly miss our leading goal scorer, and his intensity, where as giving up Boeser is giving up RFA years, but we are far more able to replace Boeser, with Garland, Hoglander, and to a lesser extent Podkolzin, so I think it answers itself, in that way. I will say that, with Boeser being so youngish, we would be getting a youngish player back, but any trade to get a #2 RHD will cost more than Boeser. This is my take on something that might work. Trade #2 Boeser, Poolman, Rathbone and a 2023-1st for Carlo and a 2022-1st Now, first off, Carlo is not a #2, or at least a not a top 45 RHD, but he is exactly what we need for Hughes, he is 24 years old, so he will be around for a long time, and is on a great contract, of 4.1 million for the next 6 years. yes this is an over payment, but it allows the Canucks to do so many things, such as it clears cap, for the on coming players, it shows Pettersson, and Miller that we are trying to improve, and it makes us bigger. Boston does this to start replacing their top Tier players, and gives them a chance on the Canucks 1st of acquiring Bedard (if they bet the Canucks will not be better) It should be noted that Boston's system helps players defensively and Poolman, although not Carlo will benefit from their system. Rathbone has been on everyone's radar for several years now, and I am sure Boston would see him as a great catch. The exchange of first's does not harm Boston, and would be an upgrade on their own, and like I said earlier, if they are betting against the Canucks, they will see this as an opportunity to double their chances at Bedard. If Boston sees Rathbone as a top 4 Dman in the future, this is a win for them. (I think they would). Miller Pettersson Garland OEL Hamonic Demko Pearson Horvat Hoglander Hughes Carlo Halak Motte Dickenson Podkolzin Schenn Myers Lammikko Beagle Sutter Burroughs Chaisson Highmore PS.......................I still think we are looking for a 3rd line Center, but we are far more competitive. Edited November 22, 2021 by J.I.A.H.N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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