Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted November 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2021 47 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Nathan Bastian I equate as a similar player to Zack MacEwen but a bad fighter...like significantly worse than Mac. If the Canucks management couldn't find a role for Gadjovich and MacEwen, I doubt they would see value in Bastian. If they wanted toughness, grit, and consistency you might as well have claimed Clifford when he was on waivers, yet the Canucks let him go. I can see them doing the same here. Clearly this management and coaching staff don't value big bodied forwards who don't bring much to special teams or have a defined role. Bastian is much more well rounded than MacEwen, He can play all 3 forward positions and can kill penalties as well as be a 4th line grinder and hitter. MacEwen is a much better fighter obviously but other than that Bastian is a better overall player. Bastian is a 100x upgrade on Chiasson. If Green has any sense of morality whatsoever he will admit defeat in the Chiasson experiment and pick up Bastian. 3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 46 minutes ago, Pears said: Which what we’re desperately needing, especially after waiving Gadjovich and MacEwen. I agree that we need size and toughness, but disagree that either of Gadjovich and MacEwen were the answers. Neither one of them are making any sort of impact on their new teams, and are both having a hard time getting any sort of consistent minutes. I'm by no means a Chiasson fan, but I don't think those two would be any better than he has been, all 3 are waiver level players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pears Posted November 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, BCNate said: I agree that we need size and toughness, but disagree that either of Gadjovich and MacEwen were the answers. Neither one of them are making any sort of impact on their new teams, and are both having a hard time getting any sort of consistent minutes. I'm by no means a Chiasson fan, but I don't think those two would be any better than he has been, all 3 are waiver level players. MacEwen is now being trusted in late game situations in Philly so I think that says quite a bit about Green’s decision making. 2 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 He’s not a great fighter at all but he’s definitely physical. Good skater, plays the PK, can play winger or center, bit of a pest as well. Definitelt an upgrade over Chiasson, Dowling, and Lamikko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Bure_Pavel said: Dont get your hopes up, doesnt seem like there is much interest in trying something different or making roster changes. In players maybe .... staff not so much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayinblack Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, Odd. said: He’s not a great fighter at all but he’s definitely physical. Good skater, plays the PK, can play winger or center, bit of a pest as well. Definitelt an upgrade over Chiasson, Dowling, and Lamikko If you can add right-handed to that then it's a no brainer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, Pears said: MacEwen is now being trusted in late game situations in Philly so I think that says quite a bit about Green’s decision making. He has been a below replacement level player. He is playing very limited minutes, with very little impact whatsoever. 1 Fight and not much physicality. I've watched the Flyers a number of time this season, and MacEwan is not doing much of anything over there. I get that he was a fan favorite, but he would certainly not do much in fixing our issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Nahhh... don't claim him.... if we passed on Comeau who was the most useful to us in most recent waivers... why bother now?? We are bracing ourselves for a blockbuster soon... let's be patient for another few weeks!!?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Nathan Bastian I equate as a similar player to Zack MacEwen but a bad fighter...like significantly worse than Mac. If the Canucks management couldn't find a role for Gadjovich and MacEwen, I doubt they would see value in Bastian. If they wanted toughness, grit, and consistency you might as well have claimed Clifford when he was on waivers, yet the Canucks let him go. I can see them doing the same here. Clearly this management and coaching staff don't value big bodied forwards who don't bring much to special teams or have a defined role. Certainly apepars you are correct that he is a bad fighter, a quick YouTube search shows him playing the role of punching bag to Nate Thompson and Brendan Dillon. Sounds like a Dale Weiss type who is a big guy and willing to drop the gloves but doesn't do much after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Odd. said: He’s not a great fighter at all but he’s definitely physical. Good skater, plays the PK, can play winger or center, bit of a pest as well. Definitelt an upgrade over Chiasson, Dowling, and Lamikko Exactly and it’s a lot easier to teach fighting skill than it is to work on skating, PK IQ, and being versatile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Are we not concerned that, although things seem to be going poorly, we would be remotely interested in grabbing a player off of waivers from a team that a] is below us in the standings and b] was considered spare parts by another club in order for the expanding club to pick him up in the first place? Sounds like a solid AHL'er to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, ABNuck said: Are we not concerned that, although things seem to be going poorly, we would be remotely interested in grabbing a player off of waivers from a team that a] is below us in the standings and b] was considered spare parts by another club in order for the expanding club to pick him up in the first place? Sounds like a solid AHL'er to me... Seattle and Vancouver are the two jokes of the Pacific Division. I knew from the very start that Seattle had an awful expansion draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Seattle and Vancouver are the two jokes of the Pacific Division. I knew from the very start that Seattle had an awful expansion draft. Me too. And they don't have near the war chest of picks that Vegas came away with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 We need to replace Zack Attack. Just claim him. &^@# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleyCupOneDay Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 6 hours ago, RakuRaku said: Nahhh... don't claim him.... if we passed on Comeau who was the most useful to us in most recent waivers... why bother now?? We are bracing ourselves for a blockbuster soon... let's be patient for another few weeks!!?? There’s a really important difference between the two guys: Blake Comeau 35 years old Nathan Bastian 23 years old 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 51 minutes ago, StanleyCupOneDay said: There’s a really important difference between the two guys: Blake Comeau 35 years old Nathan Bastian 23 years old Comeau is currently the better player of the two. And we can't take on a player on the last year of his $1m contract to fill the gaping hole in our PK because he's 35? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Some definitions: Expansion team players - this is the NHL's equivalent of your storage shed...stuff you aren't currently using, stuck in storage, and some thief broke in and stole some of it. PTO players - this is the NHL's equivalent of Thrift Store merchandise...given away by the owner but might still have some value, at a greatly reduced price, to a new owner. Waiver wire players - NHL's equivalent of garbage...and some loser comes along and decides to dumpster dive for free stuff. If you're going to dumpster dive for free stuff, then do it in the high end neighborhoods...don't head to the slums to dumpster dive, some of that stuff has disease... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhahoodlum Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ABNuck said: Some definitions: Expansion team players - this is the NHL's equivalent of your storage shed...stuff you aren't currently using, stuck in storage, and some thief broke in and stole some of it. PTO players - this is the NHL's equivalent of Thrift Store merchandise...given away by the owner but might still have some value, at a greatly reduced price, to a new owner. Waiver wire players - NHL's equivalent of garbage...and some loser comes along and decides to dumpster dive for free stuff. If you're going to dumpster dive for free stuff, then do it in the high end neighborhoods...don't head to the slums to dumpster dive, some of that stuff has disease... Have you seen our players play lately? Your average waiver wire garbage would be an improvement on some of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowscyne Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Liked him with the devils. Physical, kills penalties. See 3rd line winger upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 12 hours ago, BCNate said: I agree that we need size and toughness, but disagree that either of Gadjovich and MacEwen were the answers. Neither one of them are making any sort of impact on their new teams, and are both having a hard time getting any sort of consistent minutes. I'm by no means a Chiasson fan, but I don't think those two would be any better than he has been, all 3 are waiver level players. I was hopeful for Gadjovich being here/making the team, not necessarily for what he would do this season, but for it being a development step for him becoming a solid bottom-6 type of player. As an example/comparable, it took Jannik Hansen five or six seasons as a pro before he started to produce points in any significant sense to compliment his defensive play (yes, he was a better skater). With a bit more time, and some more improvement with his skating, maybe Gadjovich could have become that bottom-6 guy the team needs regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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