Boudrias Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 10 hours ago, WHL rocks said: 100% this is the way to go Bring in Rutherford let JR assess the roster and coaching staff for rest of season and let him fix it for next season. Surely there are better options than Rutherford. I thought he was a disaster in both Carolina and Pitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, Boudrias said: Surely there are better options than Rutherford. I thought he was a disaster in both Carolina and Pitt. He did win Cups as GM in both those cities. But yeah, I think he’s “done like dinner” as Tiger Williams used to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 most important thing right now is to ask the right questions: 1. what are the reasons for getting scored on more often than other teams after turnovers? 2. why is the team struggling with the pace of opponents , as Travis said in his press conference after the game in Buffalo and the game in Pittsburgh 3. why is Green shuffling forward lines each and every game - chemistry is key to create scoring chances and scoring goals - ? 4. why isn't the PP clicking? 5. wonder if some of the players are working with a mental coach in order to get their mindset right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 hours ago, coolboarder said: He was one who relocated a few teams, Winnipeg and Quebec then ultimately Atlanta relocated back to Winnipeg but damage has been done to Canadian markets for a long time, no cup in almost 30 years and this is his legacy. Keeping in mind, Canucks was the best team and they fixed the Cup final with the refereeing and suspension and allowed Bruins to get away with so many dirty plays. Th is is His legacy on how the treatment toward the Canadian teams in general, not just the Canucks. Revised history or at least misinterpreted. It was Bettman who brought the salary CAP in which saved Canadian NHL teams. Some revenue sharing. It was Bettman who steadily increased league revenues which benefited owners and players. On the whole I think he has done a good job. The last TV broadcast contracts to the USA market will bring many millions to all NHL cities. Does Bettman encourage game management or playoff results? I worry that is the case. All pro sports run that risk as billions of $’s as the prize. You mentioned 2011 but I suggest 1994 was even worse. The idea of Messier and the Rangers winning a CUP over some no name franchise in Western Canada was to sweet to pass on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: 13 game road trip or something like that to start the year is a REAL tough start...I know some here complain about our road schedule, but what the NYI started the year with plus injuries/Covid I think? They do have an experienced NHL coach, who should be able to get them out of it and turn things around Lol. Well guess we will find out...won't we? Maybe they will fire their coach ... and we can hire him ... by some miracle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 59 minutes ago, rekker said: Eye test, Hughes looks better defensively. To be honest though, it's such a mess it's tough to really evaluate any one player. It just an ffnn mess. You might want to get your eyes check, then. Hughes is actually on pace to give up more scoring chances than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 This must be the Canucks dressing room song: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thraxious Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Good news in all this is that the Pacific Northwest Rivalry is alive. The fight for 27th is on and we are ahead. They do have a game in hand though. Real nail-biter. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Revised history or at least misinterpreted. It was Bettman who brought the salary CAP in which saved Canadian NHL teams. Some revenue sharing. It was Bettman who steadily increased league revenues which benefited owners and players. On the whole I think he has done a good job. The last TV broadcast contracts to the USA market will bring many millions to all NHL cities. Does Bettman encourage game management or playoff results? I worry that is the case. All pro sports run that risk as billions of $’s as the prize. You mentioned 2011 but I suggest 1994 was even worse. The idea of Messier and the Rangers winning a CUP over some no name franchise in Western Canada was to sweet to pass on. Yes. They gave them an extra day. We had them on the freaking ropes...Messier tried to win the cup by taking out Linden. That 94 team was the best team we've ever had by far come the post season. Take the 2011 team, transport them to the same era, same rules, and the 94 team would have destroyed them by game 3. Sedins would have been a non-factor and Kesler would have been gone after game 2. It was big, mean and skilled. I believe we'd have also destroyed the Bruins from 2011 but it would have taken a couple more games. Lucic was around when enforcers still were but didn't fight many. And Gino and Antoski would have had him running away after a game or two (and yes i know Gino lost his spot to the better skater). Antoski would have done well against Chara too. The build up in NYR was worse then fans supporting Boston in 2011, the league did everything they could to make sure we didn't win. Including a stupid high stick rule at the time when they ejected Bure (lost the game)...and making sure that the NYR had a rest day. Thomas wouldn't have beat Bure. Or Linden for that matter, plus we'd have run him enough times to take him off the game. And the Bruins weren't as tough as every single team we beat on the way either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, IBatch said: I'm just hoping Green lasts until the Ottawa game so i can walk down to the bench and thank him for his service first hand. Going to yell out things only he'd know about Castlegar to get his attention during the game - look for a good old fashion Travis Green "f!ck off" or something like that maybe i can even get a smile and a conversation from him, that's if the security lets me get that far. I saw what Valk said .... and agree with the other comments about how Green was definitely a hard working player - and coach (one of the reasons he got the big job in the first place). Change is needed something is wrong. And it for sure needs to start with a solid hockey mind at the top - President Aqua isn't what the team needs. A real president to play interference with a new GM would be a great start. And unfortunately the bubble magic dust has run out on Green too. Yell that he was only good enough for the Rebels and not Spokane Chiefs. Not sure but I think he had a year with the Junior SmokeEaters too. If the play continues like last night I doubt he makes it thru the road trip. One of the worst efforts of the season. I believe in process and don’t have a problem with a team struggling but there is a point when the downside risks become to high. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, shiznak said: You might want to get your eyes check, then. Hughes is actually on pace to give up more scoring chances than last year. He started well. He looked way better to start the year. But I really can't judge Hughes when he has a baffoon a coach and a tire fire of a team around him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I gotta admit. I'm starting to mirror the team in terms of how I watch the game. I never watch the game live and just pvr it otherwise I risk losing 3 hrs of my evening to watch something that makes my blood boil. I watch until opposition is up 2 goals. I then start skipping every 30 seconds until a big play happens or Canucks score. If opposition is up 3 goals I skip to last 10 minutes of the 3rd. If Canucks are still down by 2 or more, I shut it off. Basically, I show up for 20 min just like the team. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: most important thing right now is to ask the right questions: 1. what are the reasons for getting scored on more often than other teams after turnovers? 2. why is the team struggling with the pace of opponents , as Travis said in his press conference after the game in Buffalo and the game in Pittsburgh 3. why is Green shuffling forward lines each and every game - chemistry is key to create scoring chances and scoring goals - ? 4. why isn't the PP clicking? 5. wonder if some of the players are working with a mental coach in order to get their mindset right? I'm curious where you expect the answers to come from? 1. The puck goes in our net a lot more 2. Other teams are faster 3. Changing lines cause nothing is working 4. Nothing is working 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax- Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, CanucksJay said: I gotta admit. I'm starting to mirror the team in terms of how I watch the game. I never watch the game live and just pvr it otherwise I risk losing 3 hrs of my evening to watch something that makes my blood boil. I watch until opposition is up 2 goals. I then start skipping every 30 seconds until a big play happens or Canucks score. If opposition is up 3 goals I skip to last 10 minutes of the 3rd. If Canucks are still down by 2 or more, I shut it off. Basically, I show up for 20 min just like the team. I got wasted and cried myself to sleep 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, rekker said: He started well. He looked way better to start the year. But I really can't judge Hughes when he has a baffoon a coach and a tire fire of a team around him. This isn’t a coach problem. Hughes will never be good defensively, because of his small stature. He isn’t able to push guys out of the way in front of the net or get into position. This is why you rarely see him play in front of the net and always playing near the half boards. Why is that, you see the forward group always chasing and hemmed in our zone, discombobulated? It’s because they need to cover for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Ajax- said: I'm curious where you expect the answers to come from? 1. The puck goes in our net a lot more 2. Other teams are faster 3. Changing lines cause nothing is working 4. Nothing is working 5. 1. Baumgartner is not qualified to coach the defence and is causing our players to be confused in their own zone. 2. Adjustments are not being made to counter opponents with good positioning and quick puck movement. 3. Green doesn't have any form of adjustment besides shuffling the lines, so no one has any idea what their linemates will do. 4. Still not moving their feet enough. This can be fixed by replacing King with a coach who is qualified to coach at the NHL level. 5. Would be useless when Green is doing his best to destroy the team's confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gnarcore Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Gary you dropped your wallet..... Valk used to live up here. I had the unfortunate pleasure of meeting him several times. Hell even played drop in hockey against him during the lockout. A far better man and player Mr. Trevor Linden was also there and on my team and line. He was not a liked person by most. I let off a pretty hard snap shot and hit him right in the ankle. He had a hissy fit, I offered to drop em and Trevor said no one is going to sign you anyways Valk. And no one did....&^@#ing asshole. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck-lifer Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I boycotted watching one game this year. It was the Winnipeg game last Friday and they won. Don't believe in the whole superstitious Kumbaya stuff, but yeah... boycotting the Columbus game Friday. Living in frustrating times with this team! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 5 seconds to answer. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Great, we made the Sportsnet news: "Fifty-one years into their fruitless chase of a Stanley Cup, the Vancouver Canucks have displayed one capacity greater than all others: their ability to disappoint." https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/quarter-mark-review-canucks-proving-that-things-can-always-get-worse/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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