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On 10/28/2022 at 9:49 PM, wai_lai416 said:

regardless he's prolly happy he didn't sign yet at the rate he's scoring at.. prolly won't be able to keep the pace at 54 goals/82 but he's prolly on pace for new career high i'm pretty sure the last larsson goal with be changed to horvat.. at this rate he prolly priced himself out of vancouver.. but i'm sure the trade bo camp here will still argue he's a 3c worth under 6mil and he can only score on the PP even though he's officially a 2c now with 4 of his 6 goals either 5v5/SH.. Miller other than faceoff is a terrible center because he doesn't do his defensive responsibility

Yeah. I'm kind of expecting and bracing myself for Bo to leave Vancouver. 

 

Who the fuck is going to replace him as 2C? 

 

JT Fucking I can't play centre Miller? 

 

Next person up to leave is Petey. Unless things turn around in a hurry, there's no incentive for him to resign here when he can get millions just as much elsewhere and fucking win

 

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2 hours ago, cripplereh said:

BB,Rathbone and our 1 st for Dobson

Islanders say no.

 

And that 1st would be probably top 10, depending how this train wreck of a season goes, could be top 5. No fucking way

 

 

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1 hour ago, N4ZZY said:

Yeah. I'm kind of expecting and bracing myself for Bo to leave Vancouver. 

 

Who the fuck is going to replace him as 2C? 

 

JT Fucking I can't play centre Miller? 

 

Next person up to leave is Petey. Unless things turn around in a hurry, there's no incentive for him to resign here when he can get millions just as much elsewhere and fucking win

 

ya at this point i'm not even sure what to do with Bo.. the Miller camp kept saying Miller is the 1c all summer and Bo is a 3c.. and now that Miller have to be put on Bo's wing to get him going and with decent result. does that make bo the 1c? or does that make miller a 2w lol. at this moment i think Bo is the 1c on this team the way he's deployed now that Miller is out of the picture as a center. i mean he gotta be 1c right? to justify paying miller 8mil as a winger? i was in the sign Bo for 7mil all summer long but JR/PA wanna play hardball and starts the negotiation with a lowball using RNH as a comparison. if you want to call Horvat a 3c? sure but the difference between horvat and RNH? horvat is a matchup 3c that goes against other teams top player. RNH is just a 3c.. he doesn't play the matchup role or a shutdown role.. he's literally just a 3c.. Oiler don't really have a matchup line that's mcdavid or draisaitl. it's funny Horvat agent called Horvat more of a 1c lol now he's really being played as a 1c because of the miller situation. let say Horvat is at around the 30ish goals by the TDL which is very reasonable if he stays healthy and assuming Miller stays as a wing the rest of the way. he'll prolly end up in the 35-40 goals range by the end of the season.. do we now trade Horvat? or what do we do with him? let say he hits 40.. his agents going to be looking at 8+.. and i can care less what some of you think he's worth.. a 40 goal scorer in this league regardless of how he gets the goal whether it's pp 5v5 etc while playing a matchup role and hitting his prime is easily worth 8mil+ on the market. if we move horvat then we don't even have a 1/2c we don't have a 3c we don't have a rhd etc etc the hole gets even bigger might as well move everyone else for a full rebuild. 

 

i think JR/PA misplayed their hand with horvat's negotiation.. prolly coulda gotten it done at around 6.75-7 in the summer.. but depending on how horvat continues the season.. might be looking at 8+ with the cap expected to go up 3-4mil. ya we can move a boeser.. but stop being delusional thinking you can move 2 years of boeser @ 6.75mil for 2nds rhd prospects etc while constantly calling him trash and useless.. if Boeser is as trash as you guys say he is.. he's going to cost you a 1st rounder + just to move 2 years of him.

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35 minutes ago, gurn said:

That first could end up first over all, or a high lotto pick; would be a shame to lose a chance at Bedard or the next 2-4 players.

if JR/PA starts trading 1st rounders.. what difference is he from benning.. if it's top 5 protected i considered.. but there's 0 chance. not even 0.000000000001% chance nyi would consider. boeser doesn't help the islander.. rathbone won't crack the islander top 6 .. the 1st won't help anytime soon.. islander isn't planning on rebuilding

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Anyone proposing trading our 1st this year is out if their mind. We just lost seven games in a row, two wins doesn't suddenly make it likely we're a playoff team. Could still easily have things go sideways. 

 

Teams would want an unprotected 1st and we just can't do that this year. Could still very well end up with a top 5 pick.

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7 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

ya at this point i'm not even sure what to do with Bo.. the Miller camp kept saying Miller is the 1c all summer and Bo is a 3c.. and now that Miller have to be put on Bo's wing to get him going and with decent result. does that make bo the 1c? or does that make miller a 2w lol. at this moment i think Bo is the 1c on this team the way he's deployed now that Miller is out of the picture as a center. i mean he gotta be 1c right? to justify paying miller 8mil as a winger? i was in the sign Bo for 7mil all summer long but JR/PA wanna play hardball and starts the negotiation with a lowball using RNH as a comparison. if you want to call Horvat a 3c? sure but the difference between horvat and RNH? horvat is a matchup 3c that goes against other teams top player. RNH is just a 3c.. he doesn't play the matchup role or a shutdown role.. he's literally just a 3c.. Oiler don't really have a matchup line that's mcdavid or draisaitl. it's funny Horvat agent called Horvat more of a 1c lol now he's really being played as a 1c because of the miller situation. let say Horvat is at around the 30ish goals by the TDL which is very reasonable if he stays healthy and assuming Miller stays as a wing the rest of the way. he'll prolly end up in the 35-40 goals range by the end of the season.. do we now trade Horvat? or what do we do with him? let say he hits 40.. his agents going to be looking at 8+.. and i can care less what some of you think he's worth.. a 40 goal scorer in this league regardless of how he gets the goal whether it's pp 5v5 etc while playing a matchup role and hitting his prime is easily worth 8mil+ on the market. if we move horvat then we don't even have a 1/2c we don't have a 3c we don't have a rhd etc etc the hole gets even bigger might as well move everyone else for a full rebuild. 

 

i think JR/PA misplayed their hand with horvat's negotiation.. prolly coulda gotten it done at around 6.75-7 in the summer.. but depending on how horvat continues the season.. might be looking at 8+ with the cap expected to go up 3-4mil. ya we can move a boeser.. but stop being delusional thinking you can move 2 years of boeser @ 6.75mil for 2nds rhd prospects etc while constantly calling him trash and useless.. if Boeser is as trash as you guys say he is.. he's going to cost you a 1st rounder + just to move 2 years of him.

I do think they made a mistake signing Miller 1st, and at all. If Bo continues playing how he has suddenly his ask probably goes up. 

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8 minutes ago, Coconuts said:

I do think they made a mistake signing Miller 1st, and at all. If Bo continues playing how he has suddenly his ask probably goes up. 

i mean i always expected them to negotiate with miller first see how that goes make a decision early say august and then move on to bo.. i don't think Bo and his agent was expecting the starting offer to be even less than what he's making now if the rumors were true and prolly find it a little insulting by the management. prolly expecting more of a 6mil starting offer and they counter with 8 and prolly meet somewhere in the middle. everything is aligning nicely for Bo.. he gets elevated to the 1c role he's off to a great start.. he's the only center on the team with decent amount of faceoff that's even over 50%. he's going to get his payday whether it's vancouver or not. if bo is smart he'd prolly cut off contract negotiation till the end of the season as it'll force vancouver's hand.. either they trade him at the TDL. to probably a contender. and if he's not traded at the TDL they prolly have to give in to his demands as they can't afford to let him walk for free.

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9 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

i mean i always expected them to negotiate with miller first see how that goes make a decision early say august and then move on to bo.. i don't think Bo and his agent was expecting the starting offer to be even less than what he's making now if the rumors were true and prolly find it a little insulting by the management. prolly expecting more of a 6mil starting offer and they counter with 8 and prolly meet somewhere in the middle. everything is aligning nicely for Bo.. he gets elevated to the 1c role he's off to a great start.. he's the only center on the team with decent amount of faceoff that's even over 50%. he's going to get his payday whether it's vancouver or not. if bo is smart he'd prolly cut off contract negotiation till the end of the season as it'll force vancouver's hand.. either they trade him at the TDL. to probably a contender. and if he's not traded at the TDL they prolly have to give in to his demands as they can't afford to let him walk for free.

Makes sense to me, he's got really nothing to lose right now, if Miller can't adequately be a top 6 center they're hooped without him

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see him opt for a fresh start elsewhere tho

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2 hours ago, Honourable Hughes said:

Could this be it?

My money is on either something to do with the new facilities they were trying to get going, or a new sponsor they’re promoting.

35 minutes ago, cripplereh said:

Bringing back the black and white Jersey's is my first guess 

 

 

They can’t do that in season, and I doubt they’d announce it like this.

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