steviewonder20 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Alflives said: Wrong. Bo will re-sign with us before the TDL because our owner wants it. Zero chance Bo is thinking as you suggest. Bo is a class act, high character teammate and family man. He will stay. 7 mil x 8 years. Guaranteed. Let’s see how well your guarantee ages. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, KirkSave said: As time marches on I am more and more impressed with Bo Horvat and his production. He is under intense media scrutiny with it being his UFA year and is absolutely crushing it. Figured he would hit a dip by now or slow down to his past rate but he has been on FIRE. Long term I doubt it is sustainable but part of me is happy that is he shoving it down the throats of this MGMT group, making them realize they only have 2 options. Pay up or move him out. Unless we can somehow magically move out other players and their caps by including significant sweetners, we cannot afford Bo, plus Kuz and Petey. Ergo, MGMT is going to have to move him. Just hope they get a premium return, especially if we are willing to retain salary on him, like 50%. Teams such as the ones below would be chomping at the bit to snag Bo for a long playoff run. -Boston -Carolina -Washington (especially if Backstrom is out) -Toronto (desperate to get out of the 1st rnd) -Colorado (lacking C depth since Kadri's departure) -Pittsburgh (trying to squeeze out another Cup with their ageing core) -NYI (Bo could be the piece that helps them finally get to the Finals) -Minnesota (if they want to get out of the West they NEED a legit top 6 C) I think there could be a bidding war for Bo, even if it's solely a rental situation. Back up the truck, load it with picks and prospects, wave goodbye to Bo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 50 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: This is a good point. BO is having a career year that probably won't be duplicated similar to Miller last year. And last year we didn't even make the playoffs with Miller's career year and this year we are in a similar boat with Horvat, not even in a playoff spot. So, if we can't even make the playoffs with our guys having career years, what is the point of signing all these guys to retirement contracts? Great point. If we’re going to keep improving, we need to sell high, and let good players go sometimes. I’m not arguing it should be Bo, but we need an influx of assets and/or currency to keep building a winner. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando27 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Team needs to take a step back to move forward. If they sign Bo we will continue to remain in bubble purgatory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I think we do stand a chance to reasonably resign Horvat. Looking further into free agent centers heading into 2023 who don’t have new contracts is huge. I didn’t realize till now…with the center UFA market potentially being flooded with high quality centers I think JR may indeed be waiting the season out till trade dead line to see if any of Bo’s comparables sign for “at cost” deals. A list of current top 6 C’s: - Bergeron - O Rielly - Monahan - Larkin - Toews lesser tier but still available… - Zacha - Strome - Kerfoot - J. Staal And still more beyond that. At least there are lots of options to cover for Bo’s loss if things go south I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: I think we do stand a chance to reasonably resign Horvat. Looking further into free agent centers heading into 2023 who don’t have new contracts is huge. I didn’t realize till now…with the center UFA market potentially being flooded with high quality centers I think JR may indeed be waiting the season out till trade dead line to see if any of Bo’s comparables sign for “at cost” deals. A list of current top 6 C’s: - Bergeron - O Rielly - Monahan - Larkin - Toews lesser tier but still available… - Zacha - Strome - Kerfoot - J. Staal And still more beyond that. At least there are lots of options to cover for Bo’s loss if things go south I guess. Can take Bergeron off the list he’s a Bruin or retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post combover Posted December 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Alflives said: Wrong. Bo will re-sign with us before the TDL because our owner wants it. Zero chance Bo is thinking as you suggest. Bo is a class act, high character teammate and family man. He will stay. 7 mil x 8 years. Guaranteed. The owner treated him like shit no way he signs here for less than 8.5. A retired ex Canuck said Bo isn’t interest in playing here after the way he was treated this summer. I think he’s realized he wasting his career here, a stupid owner that thinks a wild card spot is the goal. Lol I could see him taking less to play on a team that’s goal is a Stanley cup and they are legit contenders not “two years away” He already turned that contract offer down and rightfully so. maybe last summer he would have taken that but now zero chance. No discounts to play for Francesco circus of stupid. my moneys on Bo going to Colorado. Edited December 28, 2022 by combover 1 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Watch... Demko comes back healthy.. Goes back to God mode, We actually commit to logic and trade BO AND still somehow make the playoffs. Not the outcome I want ( Trade bo and others for futures and be in the lottery ) but let's be honest. We are too offensive to be a bottom feeder. It's no man's land or just slide into the playoffs. Yay? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Attila Umbrus said: I think we do stand a chance to reasonably resign Horvat. Looking further into free agent centers heading into 2023 who don’t have new contracts is huge. I didn’t realize till now…with the center UFA market potentially being flooded with high quality centers I think JR may indeed be waiting the season out till trade dead line to see if any of Bo’s comparables sign for “at cost” deals. A list of current top 6 C’s: - Bergeron - O Rielly - Monahan - Larkin - Toews lesser tier but still available… - Zacha - Strome - Kerfoot - J. Staal And still more beyond that. At least there are lots of options to cover for Bo’s loss if things go south I guess. Disagree with Toews and Monahan. Top Centres - Horvat - Larkin - ROR Very likely Bergeron retires and Larkin re-signs with the Wings. That really leaves you with Bo and ROR. I’m taking Bo, younger, scores more, can be a 1st line centre or 1B at the second line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, J-23 said: Disagree with Toews and Monahan. Top Centres - Horvat - Larkin - ROR Very likely Bergeron retires and Larkin re-signs with the Wings. That really leaves you with Bo and ROR. I’m taking Bo, younger, scores more, can be a 1st line centre or 1B at the second line. Sure I get all that. But none are signed yet. So it’s gonna get curious closer to TDL. If all those guys aren’t re signed including Horvat then to me all bets are off on who goes where at the end of the season. Will be really interesting to see if ROR or Larkin resign and for what price. It will really set the table for Horvat and his contract demands. I do agree about Bergeron. Probably right there. Love him as a player tho. And I think Monahan and Toews are still good short term pick ups if Horvat walks. I do agree not stellar 1st line C’s but we don’t need that. We need a 2/3 C to play behind Petey and Miller (since we’re stuck with him and his contact). So they fit the bill. So at least if JR and co screw this up there is center depth in the market regardless. I just fear we’re gonna go on a streak, get close to playoffs and hold onto Bo…then risk him going to UFA. Our owners are so bent on that playoff revenue. So for me it’s at least comforting to see there will be options at the end of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: I just fear we’re gonna go on a streak, get close to playoffs and hold onto Bo…then risk him going to UFA. Our owners are so bent on that playoff revenue. So for me it’s at least comforting to see there will be options at the end of the season. This is something the Canucks would do a couple of years ago maybe lol. Rutherford has said though, they won’t be doing this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: I just fear we’re gonna go on a streak, get close to playoffs and hold onto Bo…then risk him going to UFA. Our owners are so bent on that playoff revenue. So for me it’s at least comforting to see there will be options at the end of the season. My concern is, if the plan is to trade him and then wait too long for the perfect returns that he gets injured (or other teams make trades and offers dry up) If the plan is to sign him, then sign him If the plan is to trade, get that deal done by the beginning of January , while he is hot and healthy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, combover said: The owner treated him like shit no way he signs here for less than 8.5. A retired ex Canuck said Bo isn’t interest in playing here after the way he was treated this summer. I think he’s realized he wasting his career here, a stupid owner that thinks a wild card spot is the goal. Lol I could see him taking less to play on a team that’s goal is a Stanley cup and they are legit contenders not “two years away” He already turned that contract offer down and rightfully so. maybe last summer he would have taken that but now zero chance. No discounts to play for Francesco circus of stupid. my moneys on Bo going to Colorado. Who was it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, J-23 said: This is something the Canucks would do a couple of years ago maybe lol. Rutherford has said though, they won’t be doing this. That might be what he’s said, but as long as Aquilini is running this show the term rebuild is forbidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post higgyfan Posted December 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, J-23 said: Who was it? combover's sister-in-law's neighbour has an uncle in Victoria, whose best friend has a friend that has a sister in Moncton that was married to a policeman that moved to Halifax, but has a 3rd cousin (once removed) who lives in Smithers appears to have started the rumour. There may be others involved. I'll update you later. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, J-23 said: This is something the Canucks would do a couple of years ago maybe lol. Rutherford has said though, they won’t be doing this. I really hope so. As much as it hurts to watch Bo go. If it’s gotta be done then it’s gotta be done. Can’t keep losing these guys for nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ballisticsports. said: My concern is, if the plan is to trade him and then wait too long for the perfect returns that he gets injured (or other teams make trades and offers dry up) If the plan is to sign him, then sign him If the plan is to trade, get that deal done by the beginning of January , while he is hot and healthy Ugh…don’t remind me. That would be just sooo “canuck luck” …lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, J-23 said: Who was it? Rousel a few weeks back on a mtl radio show. maybe has no merit but it was said and no one came out and disagreed. Edited December 29, 2022 by combover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, higgyfan said: combover's sister-in-law's neighbour has an uncle in Victoria, whose best friend has a friend that has a sister in Moncton that was married to a policeman that moved to Halifax, but has a 3rd cousin (once removed) who lives in Smithers appears to have started the rumour. There may be others involved. I'll update you later. Oh so you know him to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 hours ago, combover said: The owner treated him like shit no way he signs here for less than 8.5. A retired ex Canuck said Bo isn’t interest in playing here after the way he was treated this summer. I think he’s realized he wasting his career here, a stupid owner that thinks a wild card spot is the goal. Lol I could see him taking less to play on a team that’s goal is a Stanley cup and they are legit contenders not “two years away” He already turned that contract offer down and rightfully so. maybe last summer he would have taken that but now zero chance. No discounts to play for Francesco circus of stupid. my moneys on Bo going to Colorado. Is there a reason to believe it was the owner? I'm thinking it may have been Allvin whom I feel was low balling guys, just a hunch. It has been reported that the opening offer to Bo started with a 5, and I would expect they brought up the consistency issue, which all lit a fire under Bo to have a great season and then get out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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