N4ZZY Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 15 hours ago, Gurn said: Byram's injury history https://www.capfriendly.com/injury/players/bowen-byram " Nov. 8, 2022 Bowen Byram's lower body injury status has been updated. The expected duration is week to week. Nov. 5, 2022 Bowen Byram has an injury to his lower body. The expected duration is day to day. Apr. 5, 2022 Bowen Byram is cleared to play. Feb. 23, 2022 Bowen Byram has an undisclosed injury. The expected duration is unknown. Jan. 1, 2022 Bowen Byram is cleared to play. Dec. 2, 2021 Bowen Byram has an injury to his upper body. The expected duration is unknown. Nov. 27, 2021 Bowen Byram is cleared to play. Nov. 13, 2021 Bowen Byram has a concussion. The expected duration is day to day. May 25, 2021 Bowen Byram is cleared to play. Apr. 29, 2021 Bowen Byram has an injury to his upper body. The expected duration is unknown. Mar. 27, 2021 Bowen Byram has an injury to his upper body. The expected duration is day to day. Mar. 25, 2021 Bowen Byram is cleared to play. Mar. 23, 2021 Bowen Byram has an injury to his lower body. The expected duration is day to day. Mar. 18, 2021 Bowen Byram is cleared to play. Mar. 1, 2021 Bowen Byram has an injury to his upper body. The expected duration is unknown. Yeah. So does everyone seem to want him so bad? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: Watch we will find away to sign precious Bo then hate him for it! Such as this market and fan base eh. The most logical step was for Bo to have be signed first. If management trades Miller, then they're admitting that signing him was a mistake. But they have no choice. They can double down, but I think that'll be this management's downfall if they do. Pride comes before the fall. That would be their fall. The great Rutherford and the rookie Allvin. Bo might not be perfect, but I've never seen him behave the way Miller has. He's been calm, collected. Miller's been hot-tempered (passionate as some would say, but passion without control is just hot headed). The way JT treats his third string goalie that is keeping them in the game against the Jets. I agree that maybe Delia made the wrong decision by not just going. But c'mon. Yelling at him, banging your stick on his goalposts, that's no way to treat any teammate, let alone your third string goaltender who wasn't even supposed to be starting in the NHL. He's a depth guy for the organization. I don't even think Delia was expecting to be playing this much NHL games. And then Miller's response post-game. Like, for a guy who's defense sucks balls, and he gives away the puck like Santa Clause gives away gifts, he seems to be quite blind to reading the room. He is the last guy to criticize and behave the way he does towards other teammates. I can tell you that as a fan watching him play and him behaving the way he does is an embarassment for me as a fan of this team. He doesn't represent me or my fandom here with the Canucks. I just want him gone. I don't care if the other team gives us a 7th round pick for him. Just get rid of him. What's he on pace for? He's already regressing, and the 7 year deal hasn't even started yet. On pace for like 70 points? Last I checked. Could be lower than that by now since he hasn't scored in a few games. My prediction. We're losing Bo. Keeping Miller. Petey doesn't sign an extension this summer, which will then create such a massive uncertainty, the team continues to plummet, Hughes wants out, Petey leaves or is traded by the summer of 2024. Yep. And this team will continue to plummet, and fans will voice their displeasure with the stupid decisions of ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, wai_lai416 said: false only if JTM agrees to it and why would he agree to it. he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: and why would he agree to it. he won't. i think there were examples of certain players waiving some of their ntc/nmc prior to trading to new teams or changing it to a mnmc/ntc but yes in miller's case he won't.. coz like he said he doesn't give a f what the fans or media thinks and prolly doesn't give a f what the management thinks either lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Provost Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 7 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Well that takes one rental off the market. Also shows the danger of us waiting to make trades as ours guys could get injured too. Every morning I log onto this site and am disappointed nothing has happened. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 43 minutes ago, Provost said: Well that takes one rental off the market. Also shows the danger of us waiting to make trades as ours guys could get injured too. Every morning I log onto this site and am disappointed nothing has happened. Been this way for a year on my end. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zduck14 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Man, people b*tching about Miller's attitude is ridiculous. Frankly, I'd be way more upset if he was content and happy with the way things are going. The media trying to call him out for yelling at Delia is such BS. They're growing f@#$%^& men! Not little kids playing for participation ribbons. "Oh but it might've hurt Delia's feelings...." Boo-frickin-hoo... I feel like the team needs more of this passion, to be honest. As for Horvat, I'm actually alright with him being dealt. I love the guy and he's having a hell of a year but I don't believe it's sustainable. There's just no way he can shoot at a 24% rate consistently long term. By the sounds of it, he wants to get paid based on the numbers he's putting up now (and good on him. Im not against him getting paid) but I'd rather take the massive return and spend the money to keep Kuzmenko and add a top 4 defenseman to replace Myers. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 11 minutes ago, zduck14 said: Man, people b*tching about Miller's attitude is ridiculous. Frankly, I'd be way more upset if he was content and happy with the way things are going. The media trying to call him out for yelling at Delia is such BS. They're growing f@#$%^& men! Not little kids playing for participation ribbons. "Oh but it might've hurt Delia's feelings...." Boo-frickin-hoo... I feel like the team needs more of this passion, to be honest. As for Horvat, I'm actually alright with him being dealt. I love the guy and he's having a hell of a year but I don't believe it's sustainable. There's just no way he can shoot at a 24% rate consistently long term. By the sounds of it, he wants to get paid based on the numbers he's putting up now (and good on him. Im not against him getting paid) but I'd rather take the massive return and spend the money to keep Kuzmenko and add a top 4 defenseman to replace Myers. Passion and yelling at your 3rd string goalie who's the only reason you're still in the game is not the same thing. Petey flipping the iPad because he's disgusted is passion. Screaming at your teammate who's actually playing well is not. That's being an a**. As an isolated incident I don't think many people would really care, but it's blown up because there's clearly a pattern and we've heard way too many rumours of problems in the locker room. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Diamonds said: Passion and yelling at your 3rd string goalie who's the only reason you're still in the game is not the same thing. Petey flipping the iPad because he's disgusted is passion. Screaming at your teammate who's actually playing well is not. That's being an a**. As an isolated incident I don't think many people would really care, but it's blown up because there's clearly a pattern and we've heard way too many rumours of problems in the locker room. Miller’s temper may be part of the problem, but what a steaming pile of dog sh*t this franchise appears to be, if even half of the stuff in this article is true. https://canucksarmy.com/news/on-off-ice-feuds-dominated-2022-story-vancouver-canucks-reflect-anybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 10 minutes ago, steviewonder20 said: Miller’s temper may be part of the problem, but what a steaming pile of dog sh*t this franchise appears to be, if even half of the stuff in this article is true. https://canucksarmy.com/news/on-off-ice-feuds-dominated-2022-story-vancouver-canucks-reflect-anybody I'm sure some things get amplified because the team has been struggling for a while, but the organization certainly looks like a mess from top to bottom right now and has been for a few years. Don't forget guys like Holtby and Schmidt wanting out and Jasek and Palmu feeling slighted by the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 23 minutes ago, steviewonder20 said: Miller’s temper may be part of the problem, but what a steaming pile of dog sh*t this franchise appears to be, if even half of the stuff in this article is true. https://canucksarmy.com/news/on-off-ice-feuds-dominated-2022-story-vancouver-canucks-reflect-anybody Roget is one of the biggest Debbie downers out there… a moldy old wet blanket. I’d take his opinion more seriously if he wasn’t one of the guys who would endlessly mock “leadership, intangibles and good in the room” type players…. Until you see what happens when you don’t have enough of them. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, Provost said: Well that takes one rental off the market. Also shows the danger of us waiting to make trades as ours guys could get injured too. Every morning I log onto this site and am disappointed nothing has happened. Yuppppp, the longer they wait to make a decision on Horvat the more they tempt fate. Worst case scenario would be his getting hurt, especially with a more significant injury. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, Coconuts said: Yuppppp, the longer they wait to make a decision on Horvat the more they tempt fate. Worst case scenario would be his getting hurt, especially with a more significant injury. Not that I want us to trade Bo ;I don’t think our owner will allow it anyway) but would a trade if Bo not happen closer to the TDL just for cap reasons? If we do trade Bo what return would our owner allow the trade to happen? Is Lafrenierre + Schneider enough to get him to sign off? Would Byram be enough? We all know our owner isn’t interested in futures as the key to a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Alflives said: Not that I want us to trade Bo ;I don’t think our owner will allow it anyway) but would a trade if Bo not happen closer to the TDL just for cap reasons? If we do trade Bo what return would our owner allow the trade to happen? Is Lafrenierre + Schneider enough to get him to sign off? Would Byram be enough? We all know our owner isn’t interested in futures as the key to a deal. I mean, probably, but holding on to him is still tempting fate. Bo being hurt and our being unable to trade him, or having his injury potentially hurt our negotiating power, would be devastating. I don't think Bo will extend, and not being able to capitalize on his value would be a huge setback. Byram wouldn't be enough. I question the Rags fit, they've got a lot of big deals, if they want to rent Bo that's one thing but I don't think they can afford to keep him. If we took back Goodrow they might be able to sign him between money coming off via buyouts, open cap, and Goodrow's cap being moved out, but the Rags have quite a few pending UFA's and RFA's. Not sure it's in their best interest. Their big cap hits all have some form of trade protection too, Fox aside, but he's not going anywhere. Edited January 2 by Coconuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Now closer being to a “rental” player in a trade, it’s hard to think what Bo might bring in return,. The longer this goes on , the more risk to losing him for nothing. Especially if another team realizes he might be an 8+ signing. It’s gone this long now, I’m sure Bo is embracing UFA. Something Management needs to come to terms with and get some kind of a return before mid Feb. Just wish BBoeser had proved to be a better asset to move , Perhaps Lafreneire who is also struggling, would be a good hockey trade for Boeser… but BB’s contract stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, SilentSam said: Now closer being to a “rental” player in a trade, it’s hard to think what Bo might bring in return,. The longer this goes on , the more risk to losing him for nothing. Especially if another team realizes he might be an 8+ signing. It’s gone this long now, I’m sure Bo is embracing UFA. Something Management needs to come to terms with and get some kind of a return before mid Feb. Just wish BBoeser had proved to be a better asset to move , Perhaps Lafreneire who is also struggling, would be a good hockey trade for Boeser… but BB’s contract stinks. I don’t think there’s a “hockey trade” out there for Bo like what management wants. If you’re asking playoff teams to give up more than just picks and prospects but actual roster pieces that aren’t just a cap dump they will just look elsewhere. Addition by subtraction isn’t really the forte unless the solid player on the market already has term. In Horvat’s case he is gonna be demanding a high-end contract and is better off waiting till a bidding war in FA so that doesn’t apply here. IMO you’re better off resetting for the next 1-2 years by gather picks/prospects and cap space. Anything else likely prolongs mediocrity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeanSeanBean Posted January 2 Popular Post Share Posted January 2 (edited) 4 hours ago, zduck14 said: Man, people b*tching about Miller's attitude is ridiculous. Frankly, I'd be way more upset if he was content and happy with the way things are going. The media trying to call him out for yelling at Delia is such BS. They're growing f@#$%^& men! Not little kids playing for participation ribbons. "Oh but it might've hurt Delia's feelings...." Boo-frickin-hoo... I feel like the team needs more of this passion, to be honest. No one would be upset with Miller yelling and acting a fool if he showed even half as much passion on the ice. I constantly hear people argue that his entitled attitude comes from his will to win. Then we have to watch him turn over pucks and drag his ass on the back check, and be stripped of the puck and instead of playing defense sulk off on a change. What he's showing this year doesn't look like passion to me, looks like apathy, and fans have every right to think it's just as ridiculous as the media makes it out to be. Edited January 2 by Shayster007 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Doesn't matter what thread this is...I was wondering... What do you guys thinkg of JT Miller? Any thoughts on him around here lately? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 21 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: I don’t think there’s a “hockey trade” out there for Bo like what management wants. If you’re asking playoff teams to give up more than just picks and prospects but actual roster pieces that aren’t just a cap dump they will just look elsewhere. Addition by subtraction isn’t really the forte unless the solid player on the market already has term. In Horvat’s case he is gonna be demanding a high-end contract and is better off waiting till a bidding war in FA so that doesn’t apply here. IMO you’re better off resetting for the next 1-2 years by gather picks/prospects and cap space. Anything else likely prolongs mediocrity. Tell our owner. He set the direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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