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1 hour ago, aliboy said:

Or a bridge deal, 2-3 years at $4-5M, would be fine. Also moves things forward until the cap hopefully goes up, whenever that is supposed to happen. I would do this immediately!

Why would he do this?   
He owes us nothing.   
He will get big offers long term almost certainly 

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bo to WIN makes a lot of sense if they prioritize him over J Toews, 

WIN has a lot of nice pieces:

perfetti

Chaz Lucius

McGroaty

Elias Solomonsson - 18 yr old R shot D playing in SHL

Simon Lundmark 22 yr old R shot D playing in AHL

 pro and amateur scouts would need to weigh in on which of the above is gonna be a hit 

 

CAR makes too much sense, as does Boston, Washington, Colorado, Pittsburgh 

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54 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Starting to think that there might be an eventual deal with WPG. Apparently the Jets have a lot of interest in Horvat. They really want to go on a run in the playoffs.

 

Who comes back though?

 

Would be nice if it was Dubois, but JR/PA might be fine with taking back players with cap (with little term left)

 

(e.g.) 

 

to WPG - Horvat

to VAN - Lowry, Dillon and a 1st

 

Jets could be getting Schmidt and Stanley back soon, so maybe they part with Dillon.

that is a terrible deal for Van, both players are older and that's a late first, Lowry is a 29 yr old 3C or whatever, Dillon is a 32 yr old left shot d man, WTF dude 

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1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said:

Starting to think that there might be an eventual deal with WPG. Apparently the Jets have a lot of interest in Horvat. They really want to go on a run in the playoffs.

 

Who comes back though?

 

Would be nice if it was Dubois, but JR/PA might be fine with taking back players with cap (with little term left)

 

(e.g.) 

 

to WPG - Horvat

to VAN - Lowry, Dillon and a 1st

 

Jets could be getting Schmidt and Stanley back soon, so maybe they part with Dillon.

I don't see Bo signing a long term contract with WPG.  Once he becomes a UFA, he will have much better

options; both in lifestyle and SC contending. 

 

 

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I wonder of Dallas could be a sneaky candidate for Bo Horvat. They are currently looking to bolster their top six and perhaps could allow Benn and Seguin to take less responsibility down the middle. Bo would fit their group.

 

They have some intriguing players like Wyatt Johnston. 19 year old rookie Right handed center who had a monster season in the OHL last season with 120 points. He is currently playing as a 3C for Dallas, but if we are building for the future, he would be a very ideal candidate to trade for.

 

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SCOUTING REPORT

His sensational post-draft season in the OHL (124 points) highlighted his ability to beat defenders one on one and make plays in tight spaces. He is not an especially quick skater. However, he does go to the dirty areas, is more than willing to compete for loose pucks and is a also defensively responsible center.

 

Long Range Potential: Talented, productive center with upside.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said:

that is a terrible deal for Van, both players are older and that's a late first, Lowry is a 29 yr old 3C or whatever, Dillon is a 32 yr old left shot d man, WTF dude 

Yeah I can’t see a hockey trade with the Jets and the team they have. More of a futures trade but will that be allowed. Have some really nice futures as you mentioned above. Lucious and 1 of the dmen would be nice. If Dubois is getting traded, it will be in the summer. 

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31 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

I wonder of Dallas could be a sneaky candidate for Bo Horvat. They are currently looking to bolster their top six and perhaps could allow Benn and Seguin to take less responsibility down the middle. Bo would fit their group.

 

They have some intriguing players like Wyatt Johnston. 19 year old rookie Right handed center who had a monster season in the OHL last season with 120 points. He is currently playing as a 3C for Dallas, but if we are building for the future, he would be a very ideal candidate to trade for.

 

 

 

good point about dallas, agree he would fit their group well, Wyatt Johnston is the exact player type we should be targetting

Wyatt + Bischel for Bo and Schenn

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58 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

I don't see Bo signing a long term contract with WPG.  Once he becomes a UFA, he will have much better

options; both in lifestyle and SC contending. 

 

 

I think Ottawa should try to trade for him and negotiate contract prior to trade, close to where he is from, maybe a good scene for him 

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1 minute ago, Canucks Curse said:

I think Ottawa should try to trade for him and negotiate contract prior to trade, close to where he is from, maybe a good scene for him 

Absolutely!  I have been thinking that for awhile now.  Bo would be an amazing veteran leader for a young team

that is finally coming into fruition.  He fills a (C) role that they are lacking, faceoff %, scores crucial goals, can up

his play in important games, leadership role, etc.

 

Best of all...the Sens have the resources (cap + assets) and Bo would probably re-sign with them.

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21 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

Absolutely!  I have been thinking that for awhile now.  Bo would be an amazing veteran leader for a young team

that is finally coming into fruition.  He fills a (C) role that they are lacking, faceoff %, scores crucial goals, can up

his play in important games, leadership role, etc.

 

Best of all...the Sens have the resources (cap + assets) and Bo would probably re-sign with them.

Sounds like a player we could really use. 
 

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4 hours ago, Alflives said:

Kesler was a prickly pear too.  The prickly pear just can’t be the top dog on the club.  Bo needs to be.  He needs to carve a slice off Miller now and then.  Appears that’s not Bo though.  

Miller doesn't hold a candle to Kesler as far as effort is concerned and it's not particularly close. Kesler could be moody, and a prick, he also had his ways of frustrating fans, but from what I recall most folks didn't really question his effort. He worked his way up from the bottom, having been written off as a likely third line center. He put the work in, carried a chip on his shoulder, actively wanted to be hated or disliked on the ice, and went to war on the ice. Some folks would fuss about him not using his wings as effectively as he could but he was absolutely a competent puck distributor when he wanted to be. 

 

Kes would rather take a hit or slash than willingly let someone by him more often than not, and as a result of his work ethic was one of the better two way players of the 2000's-2010's era. I'd take 08-09 to 16-17 Kesler over Miller every day of the weak. I'd take peak Kesler, whether that's his 25 goal, 50 assist, 104 PIMS season or his 41 goal, 32 assist, 62 PIMS season over Miller at his 99 point peak. Miller gives up some of what he produces, Kesler was the complete opposite, he was far from one dimensional and his value went far beyond his offense. 

 

As for top dog, it's funny you say that, before Hank was named captain there was actually a time around here where Kesler was considered a legitimate captain candidate. 

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1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

I wonder of Dallas could be a sneaky candidate for Bo Horvat. They are currently looking to bolster their top six and perhaps could allow Benn and Seguin to take less responsibility down the middle. Bo would fit their group.

 

They have some intriguing players like Wyatt Johnston. 19 year old rookie Right handed center who had a monster season in the OHL last season with 120 points. He is currently playing as a 3C for Dallas, but if we are building for the future, he would be a very ideal candidate to trade for.

 

 

 

Dallas is interesting but we'd have to take cap back to make it work, although retaining would help. They also don't have the space to extend him, but if they wanted to rent? Yeah, absolutely could be an option. 

 

Johnston would immediately be our best center prospect, although that's not saying much given how shallow we are regarding center prospects. I'd be asking about Bishsel (18OA 2022, 6'6" LD), Harley (18OA 2019, 6'3" LD), Kyrou (50OA 2022, 5'10" RD), Grushnikov (48OA 2021, 6'1" LD), and maybe Bourque (30OA 2020, 5'10" C). I'd be asking about their 2024 or 2025 1st too. Some combination of Johnston and other pieces for Horvat at 50% and maybe Schenn in return for some of the above and a cap dump. 

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52 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said:

I think Ottawa should try to trade for him and negotiate contract prior to trade, close to where he is from, maybe a good scene for him 

If he wants to leave here because we’re not close to winning why would he want to go to Ottawa who’s even farther away?


If he leaves its likely to a veteran team that’s a piece or two away.

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6 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said:

To OTT

Horvat with contract in place

Jack Rathbone

McDonut

 

To VAN

 

Shane Pinto 

Artem Zub

:sick:

 

We better do better than that. Especially with a contract extension.

 

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5 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

:sick:

 

We better do better than that. Especially with a contract extension.

 

I don't think I'd even entertain trading Boeser for that return.....

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