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4 minutes ago, Sophomore Jinx said:

I always thought that if Millsy was signed, it would have been in the 8ish category. I'd be shocked if Bo signed here for anything less than 50-52M total. 

Which would be a cap hit of 6.25-6.5.

 

Would be a great deal and would be Bo leaving a bit of money on the table.

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1 minute ago, spook007 said:

Agree, its possible... Low 50s is also around 6.5...

yep thats right in where I expect this to land. He could certainly get in the 7s on the open market tho.

 

Bo's never had this kind of support around him, I think he will take a bit of a haircut to make an attempt at a run with these guys. 

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Just now, JM_ said:

yep thats right in where I expect this to land. He could certainly get in the 7s on the open market tho.

 

Bo's never had this kind of support around him, I think he will take a bit of a haircut to make an attempt at a run with these guys. 

I believe he will...

He likes VCR, but the rumours of them being far apart, made me suggest that one of the reasons could be BO wanting to see ambition from the club.

They've shown that by committing to Miller, and I think 6.5ish x8 or 7x7 will fit perfectly in with the structure...

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10 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Which would be a cap hit of 6.25-6.5.

 

Would be a great deal and would be Bo leaving a bit of money on the table.

For sure it would be great, but like I said, I'd be shocked (if he signed in that 6.25-6.5 range). His tenure here is long, and I just don't know how much of a "team friendly" deal Bo would be willing to make, if any at all. I'm thinking it'll take 7.25x8 to get him signed, anything less would certainly be a bonus for the squad moving forward.

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26 minutes ago, spook007 said:

What??? I suggested 6.5-7M x 7-8 years. Thought Miller got 8M? 

Are you suggesting that Bo can't get 7M on the open market, or that he should barely get a pay rise after suffering with this team the last 8years? 

I'll be very surprised, if he doesn't get between 6.5-7 for most likely 7-8 years.

 

Bo is better at FO and has been playing with lots of scrubs as wingers, while Miller has played with EP in particular.

 

 

What?   
I agreed with you. Hahah

6.5-7 is fair for sure 

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56 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

Bo would want something similar?  
Has Bo ever hit 99 points?  
He hasn’t even hit PPG.  
7 mill is more than fair IMO

His career high is 66 points. His extension will run until he's either 35 or 36. i doubt he'll sign for less than 7 years. I think even 7m may be too high if we're talking team friendly deals running to mid 30's. 

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14 minutes ago, Baggins said:

His career high is 66 points. His extension will run until he's either 35 or 36. i doubt he'll sign for less than 7 years. I think even 7m may be too high if we're talking team friendly deals running to mid 30's. 

6.5 seems about right to me, but the market seems to be a bit wonky, I wouldn’t be shocked by 7. 

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32 minutes ago, Baggins said:

His career high is 66 points. His extension will run until he's either 35 or 36. i doubt he'll sign for less than 7 years. I think even 7m may be too high if we're talking team friendly deals running to mid 30's. 

I’d be fine with whatever term as long as it’s 7 or under.  
 

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9 hours ago, D.B Cooper said:

Bo would want something similar?  
Has Bo ever hit 99 points?  
He hasn’t even hit PPG.  
7 mill is more than fair IMO

I always thought Bo was more responsible and played the harder defensive match ups without the players or PP time as others

Bo scores pretty well despite all that and I think is just put in that position because he provides the best role for that

(Not unlike the WJC where they are stars on their teams but take roles to make Canada a complete team)

Put him in a different role and he would put up even better numbers, but we don't need him to do anything other than provide secondary scoring which he does very well

Bo won't get Millers money, but his role and service is just as important

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1 hour ago, ba;;isticsports said:

I always thought Bo was more responsible and played the harder defensive match ups without the players or PP time as others

Bo scores pretty well despite all that and I think is just put in that position because he provides the best role for that

(Not unlike the WJC where they all stars on their teams but take roles to make Canada a complete team)

Put him in a different role and he would put up even better numbers, but we don't need him to do anything other than provide secondary scoring which he does very well

Bo won't get Millers money, but his role and service is just as important

That's the description of a defensive/ shutdown C, and it's not true that he doesn't get the same PP time (he's 1st unit bumper).  He might not have gotten the same winger help previously but even as of last season that's probably different with Garland's arrival, plus he's done well with Pearson.
Agreed with the second bold; I hope he agrees to $6-$6.5 million * 7 years.

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6 hours ago, spook007 said:

Not sure Bo will go below 6.5-7 over 7-8 years. After Millers new contract Bo will, want something not far off... 

The fact BO likes Vancouver, shouldn't mean he should be screwed.

Does Bo really want to Win a Cup?,  apparently Miller does. B)

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1 hour ago, EdgarM said:

Sorry to say but Bo is no #1 Center and so you need to ask what we are going to pay our #2 Center. Considering what Petey and Miller are getting, I don't see much room in being generous with Bo. I think the 6.5 range would be fair.

I think we really need to concentrate on those players truly wanting to win a championship first and foremost. Other then Miller, we have not seen too many Canucks willing to make that sacrifice.

I agree. If BO doesn’t want to take a team friendly deal and wants #1 centre type money then we should trade him.  Petey won the Calder and is a point a game player. Miller is a 99 point player, plays multiple positions and is a vocal leader of this team. BO is a 2C and should be paid accordingly. 
 

Ryan Kesler won the Selke trophy and was our best ever 2C. I don’t recall him ever getting the same money as the Sedins. 

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7 hours ago, Sophomore Jinx said:

Just a thought on those who think BO can be had in the 6-6.5 range, (or even 7.0), this article shows some comparables and is pretty indicative of what he may be commanding. Probably obvious to all of us, but still a reminder and a rough estimate of where things may be at in negotiations.

 

  Extension candidate: Canucks captain Bo Horvat (msn.com)

Don't get the article by McIntyre...

 

He starts with saying Petey has played a lot of time as a winger, but he is a natural centre, so Canucks can't afford Bo, cause you can't have the 3 centers playing as it takes up 24M?

Then play him on Millers wing, or Miller on his wing,...

The fact they both can play both Centre and wing should be a blessing and not a hindrance of us signing Bo (if that's the way they chose to move forward). 

Plenty of wingers to be shopped if need be. We have to make room for the wingers coming through (hopefully) in the coming years starting with Klim, Karlsson etc, all on cheaper deals...

 

I think there is plenty of room, as long as Petey doesn't go ballistic.

We've got plenty of wingers making more than 5M if we want to free up space, and by the time Petey's contract needs to be extended, wingers like Pearson and Dickinson will come off the books...

 

If the choice is between Bo and BB/Garland, I know, who I'd choose....

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