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1 minute ago, wildcam said:

Bo Horvát 27, must keep under 7 million... AAV 6.6 -- 6.8 million ---

He is worth at least 1.2 --1.4 million less then Miller at AAV 8 million 

Miller did leave money on table but 8 million is  great contract...

I like Horvat should always get GP 75-- G 25--28 -- PTS 55 -- 62  over next 4 - 5  years

 

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1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

I think us, as fans, need to get used to this with this management group.  They're very tight lipped about everything.  It'll be some random moment in the next little while where we see Horvat signed.  No insider will get ahold of any info before then.

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5 hours ago, SilentSam said:

Why sign him if we have time to assess the market til Christmas?

Having him as a trade option, leaves an ace up the sleeve for management either way.

 

we’re in a great position actually.

 

 

if Lou L wanted Miller,  he’d settle for Horvat .

 

target Dobson 

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1 minute ago, gurn said:

"but I’m happy with the defense group we have.” - Patrik Allvin. #Canucks'

 

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Oh, no.

Translation = "We haven't been able to find any upgrades so far, but should one arise, we'll pull the trigger. Until then we're ok starting this season as is, as our D is "ok".

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4 minutes ago, gurn said:

"but I’m happy with the defense group we have.” - Patrik Allvin. #Canucks'

 

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Oh, no.

While personnel-wise it’s not good at all, they were able to majorly outperform once we had a proper defensive system in place. I think we might be in for a surprise with how they’ll play, and plus we have a stalwart in net for support when necessary. 

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14 minutes ago, gurn said:

"but I’m happy with the defense group we have.” - Patrik Allvin. #Canucks'

 

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Oh, no.

I mean what do you expect him to do? Pull a Luongo and say “my defence sucks”. :lol:
 

He obviously has to make them believe they’re a good enough group but he’ll continue to look for upgrades behind the scenes.

 

 

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Anything under 7 million per year for Bo is a win I think. If he went to the UFA market I think he could likely get something like 7.5 mil x 7 years from a few teams. 

 

So I'm hoping Canucks can lock him in around 6.75 x 8 years. That would be solid and with the cap potentially going up in the future it could result in being a bit of a steal for what he can bring. 

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33 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Translation = "We haven't been able to find any upgrades so far, but should one arise, we'll pull the trigger. Until then we're ok starting this season as is, as our D is "ok".

In the Poolman thread, PA says he is good to go and will be on the ice at the start of camp.

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17 minutes ago, gurn said:

"but I’m happy with the defense group we have.” - Patrik Allvin. #Canucks'

 

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Oh, no.

 

14 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Translation = "We haven't been able to find any upgrades so far, but should one arise, we'll pull the trigger. Until then we're ok starting this season as is, as our D is "ok".

 

I agree with aGENT's assessment

 

We should be mindful too that although there is a glaring hole in the top-4, the team's overall defensive side of the game has been improved in some ways since the start of last year:

 

- Jack Rathbone looked almost NHL ready last off-season, but one of the strongest parts of his game, zone exits, was not quite polished enough and led to his demotion. After the first 0 points in his first 3 AHL games he then put up 40 points in the next 36 games down there. By RJ's assessment his game has been polished quite a bit. Allvin and JR harped on zone exits quite a bit when they first took over, and Rathbone will be superior to anyone who started from 5-8 on the depth chart last year. He's shown previous chemistry with Myers and it wouldn't shock me if they're tried as a 2nd pairing at some point.

 

- Nolan Baumgartner is long gone. Whatever system the players were following under him to start last year was .... very pathetic, if they were following anything at all. We don't know a lot about Cull other than he was a defenseman himself and has coached pretty good regular seasons considering the team lacked high level depth in Utica and Abby. We know Yeo is a NHL-level assistant with lots of experience and should have a lot of tools to rebuild the PK.

 

- The PK. The Canucks landed one of the best PKing forwards in the NHL this off-season in Ilya Mikheyev (not exaggerating), and added a RH center who is also good on the PK in Curtis Lazar - they don't really have that in the toolbox last year.

 

- Hamonic out, Dermott in. I don't know what happened to Travis Hamonic, but it was not good for his hockey. Dermott put up shockingly good numbers in his short Canucks stint (not with extremely difficult deployment, but still). He can also play both sides. If he's put in 3rd pairing role, he'll succeed but his ceiling is still a bit higher. His transition game was an improvement of Hamonic, Poolman, Hunt, Schenn (ily Schenn but you're lucky you play with Hughes in this regard), and all of the injury fill-ins, although Burroughs showed some flashes, it wasn't really what the coach asked of him.

 

- No Halak. Although Halak didn't have a major role on the team, this was a team a FEW GAMES out of a playoff spot, and he was the only goalie with a losing record, going 4-7-2. A 6-4-3 record would've meant a playoff spot last year, and Spencer Martin looks poised to hit #s in that range.

 

- If de Haan fills out the remaining cap space, that's another depth improvement.

 

The Canucks badly need another top-4 defenseman to be considered a solid cup contender, and they could also use a one more bluechip waiver exempt player so they can have more tools to find solid pairings. But to be a playoff contender? It's pretty close at this point IMO.

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14 minutes ago, Bobby James said:

Anything under 7 million per year for Bo is a win I think. If he went to the UFA market I think he could likely get something like 7.5 mil x 7 years from a few teams. 

 

So I'm hoping Canucks can lock him in around 6.75 x 8 years. That would be solid and with the cap potentially going up in the future it could result in being a bit of a steal for what he can bring. 

I think market value for him is around 6.5. Anything under 6 I would see as a " I wanna win a cup" discount similar to Miller.

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