[Proposal] Like the 2019 Blues

[NMHockey]

Coaching Staff
Fire Travis Green and Kyle Gustafson;

make Brad Shaw interim Head Coach for now. Hire Mike Kitchen as Associate Head Coach (used to coach with Brad Shaw in St.Louis and was an Assistant Coach for the Blackhawks when they won the Cup in 2013 and 2015. Kitchen is a former

D-man as well. Last coached in the NHL in 2019-2020 as an Assistant with the Panthers and Team Canada). And Hire Guy Boucher as an Assistant Coach; let him take the reigns away on most of the offensive skill/strategy teaching from Jason King.

 

Head Coach (Interim for now)- Brad Shaw

Associate Head Coach- Mike Kitchen

Assistant Coach- Nolan Baumgartner

Assistant Coach- Guy Boucher

Assistant Coach- Jason King

 

Transactions

1. Place D Brad Hunt on Waivers to get him on Abbotsford.

 

2. Trade D Guillaume Brisebois and a

5th Round Draft Pick in 2024 to the Canadiens in exchange for D Brett Kulak and a 7th Round Draft Pick in 2023.

 

3. Trade D Travis Hamonic and a 4th Round Draft Pick in 2024 to the Sharks in exchange

for F Jonah Gadjovich.

 

4. Sign W Bobby Ryan (1 year/$750,000).

Line-Up(‘s)

B.Boeser -El.Pettersson- N.Hoglander

C.Garland -B.Horvat- V.Podkolzin

T.Pearson -J.T. Miller- B.Ryan

T.Motte -Ja.Dickinson- A.Chiasson

J.Gadjovich -J.Lammikko- J.Dowling                   

 

O.Ekman-Larsson - T.Myers

Q.Hughes - L.Schenn

B.Kulak - T.Poolman

     K.Burroughs

 

T.Demko

J.Halak

 

LTIR

M.Highmore

B.Keeper

Bra.Sutter

M.Ferland

 

ABBOTSFORD

D.Klimovich -N.Petan- P.Di Giuseppe

S.Rempal -V.Arseneau- W.Lockwood

S.Dries -J.Stevens- Ju.Bailey

T.Nielsen- C.Focht- J.Lukosevicius

E.Keppen -C.Wouters- K.Plasek

A.Sautner - M.Bowey

J.Rathbone - N.Juulsen

C.Schilling - J.Woo

B.Hunt - D.Stephens

A.Brubacher - A.Kannok-Leipert

 

M.DiPietro

A.Silovs

S.Martin

 

 

 

[khay]

There is a huge flaw with the personnel on PK. It's not just about coaching.

 

Motte returning helped a lot but it was exposed again tonight.

 

When OEL took that penalty, I knew we were getting scored on and the game would be over.

 

PK is all about reading the plays well enough to block a passing lane, blocking shots, being quick, having the stick in the right place.

 

Until we get at least one more high quality defender to help with the PK and Hamonic gets fully vaccinated, we are NOT going to win a road game. Well, maybe we will win one against Habs or Sens (but I'm being overly optimistic).

 

The fact that Jim Benning has not figured that out and is not quick to address it is enough of a reason to fire him. Letting it come to this level is enough of a reason to fire him.

 

This moron cannot and will not figure it out. Who builds a team like this? No balance whatsoever.

 

I have never seen a team with so much talent but with one glaring hole that it causes the whole thing to collapse.

 

The team is not that bad. The roster construction has a huge hole and that's on Jim Benning.

[NMHockey]

15 minutes ago, khay said:

There is a huge flaw with the personnel on PK. It's not just about coaching.

 

Motte returning helped a lot but it was exposed again tonight.

 

When OEL took that penalty, I knew we were getting scored on and the game would be over.

 

PK is all about reading the plays well enough to block a passing lane, blocking shots, being quick, having the stick in the right place.

 

Until we get at least one more high quality defender to help with the PK and Hamonic gets fully vaccinated, we are NOT going to win a road game. Well, maybe we will win one against Habs or Sens (but I'm being overly optimistic).

 

The fact that Jim Benning has not figured that out and is not quick to address it is enough of a reason to fire him. Letting it come to this level is enough of a reason to fire him.

 

This moron cannot and will not figure it out. Who builds a team like this? No balance whatsoever.

 

I have never seen a team with so much talent but with one glaring hole that it causes the whole thing to collapse.

 

The team is not that bad. The roster construction has a huge hole and that's on Jim Benning.

I agree and think that plays a part in the hole on the bottom pairing LHD. Which is why I think Kulak would be a perfect fit. He’s big, he’s rangy, he’s hard in his own zone in the corners, and in the offensive zone all he does is try and rip the puck on net. He will also fight too. I think Bobby Ryan could help the PK too with his experience as a breakout on the rush style scorer who’s played many seasons and alot of playoff runs with two different teams, has helped be a leader on a young team in Detroit, and has played in the Olympics. He has a long reach, good hands, and is good on special teams because even though he’s a goal scorer; he’s willing to do whatever’s asked of him. A very savvy veteran.

[qwijibo]

Why does Montreal trade a serviceable NHL defenceman for  a guy who cleared waivers very recently? 

[wai_lai416]

lol we gonna employ the guy that runs the famous 1-3-1 defense with no forecheck to run the offense? grab another bottom pairing defense and then give away hamonic who should be fully vaccinated soon PLUS a 4th rounder for a guy we sent to waivers and only have 1 points in 11 game? meanwhile keeping the epic failures that runs our special team and promoting the guy that coached a piss poor defense and PK in columbus before being let go and with his input on our defense and PK it's even worse. 

[NMHockey]

14 hours ago, qwijibo said:

Why does Montreal trade a serviceable NHL defenceman for  a guy who cleared waivers very recently? 

Montreal is going to start selling assets soon and I think them firing Bergevin and Timmins signals a major retool this season. They get a higher pick back and a D-man who was on waivers unclaimed because he was recently injured for a couple months. But he’s still got some upside and is fairly young and skates well for a rangy guy. He also played a little bit on loan with Montreal’s farm team in Laval last season and did well. Plus he’s from Quebec so there’s familiarity and a lot to like. 

[NMHockey]

11 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

lol we gonna employ the guy that runs the famous 1-3-1 defense with no forecheck to run the offense? grab another bottom pairing defense and then give away hamonic who should be fully vaccinated soon PLUS a 4th rounder for a guy we sent to waivers and only have 1 points in 11 game? meanwhile keeping the epic failures that runs our special team and promoting the guy that coached a piss poor defense and PK in columbus before being let go and with his input on our defense and PK it's even worse. 

No we’re gonna employ a guy who accepts no BS at any point and will light a fire under his players derriers, who has experience as a successful forward himself, and who was a big reason why Ottawa was within one goal of the Final only four years ago. We also get a top 5 D-man who was in the Cup Final last season who’s a former Vancouver Giant and Abbotsford Heat and has a big frame, a good point shot, and can fight. We need “another bottom pairing defense” in case you didn’t notice and a LHD at that. We also trade away an overrated RHD who’s nothing but a cap headache now and injuries and personal problems have damaged the D-man he was 4-5 years ago. “Should be fully vaccinated soon” is what we’ve been told for three months now. Facts are he’s costing us $1,875,000 just to play in Abbotsford and hasn’t been bonding and building chemistry with his team on road trips at all this season. In the 7 games he’s played for us he’s not made any difference and Burroughs has stepped up and taken his spot away as has the play of Schenn. We get back a young raw power forward prospect that never should have been waived and that’s on our coach that everyone wants fired. Speaking of Gadjovich at the least he can help with pushback and toughness right now. Our piss poor D and PK improves as I have Green and his assistant coach of choice/Portland connection in K.Gustafson both out. Bringing in Mike Kitchen too a former D-man and coach who’s done well everywhere including being an Assistant for the Blackhawks cup wins in 2013 and 2015. Checkmate.

[qwijibo]

18 minutes ago, ZH96 said:

Montreal is going to start selling assets soon and I think them firing Bergevin and Timmins signals a major retool this season. They get a higher pick back and a D-man who was on waivers unclaimed because he was recently injured for a couple months. But he’s still got some upside and is fairly young and skates well for a rangy guy. He also played a little bit on loan with Montreal’s farm team in Laval last season and did well. Plus he’s from Quebec so there’s familiarity and a lot to like. 

I don’t see Montreal having interest in Brisebois. They have a number of exciting young D prospects.  If they move Kulak it’ll likely be for a slightly higher pick than you’re offering and forgoing the unimpressive prospect 

[wai_lai416]

45 minutes ago, ZH96 said:

No we’re gonna employ a guy who accepts no BS at any point and will light a fire under his players derriers, who has experience as a successful forward himself, and who was a big reason why Ottawa was within one goal of the Final only four years ago. We also get a top 5 D-man who was in the Cup Final last season who’s a former Vancouver Giant and Abbotsford Heat and has a big frame, a good point shot, and can fight. We need “another bottom pairing defense” in case you didn’t notice and a LHD at that. We also trade away an overrated RHD who’s nothing but a cap headache now and injuries and personal problems have damaged the D-man he was 4-5 years ago. “Should be fully vaccinated soon” is what we’ve been told for three months now. Facts are he’s costing us $1,875,000 just to play in Abbotsford and hasn’t been bonding and building chemistry with his team on road trips at all this season. In the 7 games he’s played for us he’s not made any difference and Burroughs has stepped up and taken his spot away as has the play of Schenn. We get back a young raw power forward prospect that never should have been waived and that’s on our coach that everyone wants fired. Speaking of Gadjovich at the least he can help with pushback and toughness right now. Our piss poor D and PK improves as I have Green and his assistant coach of choice/Portland connection in K.Gustafson both out. Bringing in Mike Kitchen too a former D-man and coach who’s done well everywhere including being an Assistant for the Blackhawks cup wins in 2013 and 2015. Checkmate.

i think you missed the memo on he got his first shot early nov have to wait for the 2nd shot and then have to wait for another 2 weeks after the shot. no one cares if he got within 1 goal of the final. none of his teams promote offense. so trading a for a top 5d for a top 4d is your solution because he used to play for the giants? ok hamonic will never be fully vaccinated according to you so why would any team want him? let's weaken the defense some more and trade away more draftpicks for players with toughness to fill more bottom 6 spots that the team is full of. keep the failure assistant coaches and that's checkmate? gadjovich and kulak is your solution to the struggles? a coach that doesn't coach offensive hockey and some of the most boring defensive hockey to coach offense? yup that'll sure turn this team around

[NMHockey]

2 hours ago, qwijibo said:

I don’t see Montreal having interest in Brisebois. They have a number of exciting young D prospects.  If they move Kulak it’ll likely be for a slightly higher pick than you’re offering and forgoing the unimpressive prospect 

I see them having interest in Brisebois since he played well for Laval with some of their prospects.

Brisebois and a 2024 3rd

for Kulak and a 2023 7th

Edited November 30, 2021 by ZH96

[qwijibo]

1 minute ago, ZH96 said:

I see them having interest in Brisebois since he played for Laval and some of their prospects. Brisebois and a 2024 3rd

for Kulak and a 2023 7th

I’m sure the new GM will want to wait 3 years for a middling draft pick when they can probably  get a 3rd in this years draft from a team looking to add a NHL depth defenceman for a cup run 

[NMHockey]

1 hour ago, wai_lai416 said:

i think you missed the memo on he got his first shot early nov have to wait for the 2nd shot and then have to wait for another 2 weeks after the shot. no one cares if he got within 1 goal of the final. none of his teams promote offense. so trading a for a top 5d for a top 4d is your solution because he used to play for the giants? ok hamonic will never be fully vaccinated according to you so why would any team want him? let's weaken the defense some more and trade away more draftpicks for players with toughness to fill more bottom 6 spots that the team is full of. keep the failure assistant coaches and that's checkmate? gadjovich and kulak is your solution to the struggles? a coach that doesn't coach offensive hockey and some of the most boring defensive hockey to coach offense? yup that'll sure turn this team around

I think you missed the memo on the fact that a lot has been said about things that will happen with Hamonic that haven’t. Including people saying our problems with PK, toughness, and structure will be helped when Hamonic returns. Hamonic played 7 games for us and none of those things remotely happened. I’m watching the game right now and it’s evident from the last 10 games that the RHD side with Schenn, Myers, Poolman, Burroughs has been far better than with Hamonic. Hamonic. Is. Not. A. Top. 4. D. And I’ve seen many people on here say the same thing and how we overpaid to keep; yes a character leader and veteran D-man who can be a smooth two-way performer and enforcer. But quite frankly is 5/6 D-man at this point due to injuries and personal issues as I pointed out. You’re also putting words in my mouth saying I think we should get Kulak because he was a Giant. As I pointed out if you read, I talked about three fundamentals in Kulaks skillset and also mentioned that he used to play for the Giants and the Abbotsford Heat (as he was a Flames draft pick) so therefore he’s familiar with the city and would feel comfortable getting settled here quickly. Hamonic has basically not even played so how does trading him “weaken our D-core”?

It stands currently as 

Ekman-Larsson - Myers

Hughes - Poolman

Burroughs - Schenn

^Adding a rangy, relatively young but experienced D-man who played in the Cup Final last season and focuses on shooting only in the O-zone and being always hardnosed in the D-zone.. how does that weaken our D-core? Yes I think players like Kulak and Gadjovich could help us. In case you’re not aware our problem is potentially coaching and maybe a minor tweak in the bottom nine and bottom pairing D. We’re stacked on paper. I like how you rip the

Guy Boucher idea yet the only other ideas people can come up with are Bruce Boudreau (who’s never come within a goal of the SCF like Guy Boucher did only four years ago), toxic Mike Babcock, and Brad Shaw. And no don’t say Claude Julien as an option because his style and opinions have gone stale and it got reported the Canucks explored him but decided otherwise. Boucher like I said is a former successful forward himself and both his teams in Tampa Bay and Ottawa had no problem scoring flashy goals. He probably had a defensive style (or has in the past) to balance out how like his fiery personality he likes a fiery offense. He also had a lot of high-octane forwards to work with in Tampa Bay and Ottawa so had to have defensive structure. Don’t know why you don’t care that Boucher had the Senators in Game 7 3rd OT of the Eastern Conference Final… got any better coaching ideas? By the way you’re wrong about the vaccine idea because I’m double vaccinated myself and was told flat out I don’t have to wait too long before getting my second one. Maybe you should get the memo. And the vaccine. There’s zero reason Hamonic couldn’t have been vaccinated by now and living up to his new $3 Million dollar contract. Instead he’s made brutal reads and turnovers and played in the minors. Once again. Checkmate.

Edited November 30, 2021 by ZH96

[wai_lai416]

3 hours ago, ZH96 said:

I think you missed the memo on the fact that a lot has been said about things that will happen with Hamonic that haven’t. Including people saying our problems with PK, toughness, and structure will be helped when Hamonic returns. Hamonic played 7 games for us and none of those things remotely happened. I’m watching the game right now and it’s evident from the last 10 games that the RHD side with Schenn, Myers, Poolman, Burroughs has been far better than with Hamonic. Hamonic. Is. Not. A. Top. 4. D. And I’ve seen many people on here say the same thing and how we overpaid to keep; yes a character leader and veteran D-man who can be a smooth two-way performer and enforcer. But quite frankly is 5/6 D-man at this point due to injuries and personal issues as I pointed out. You’re also putting words in my mouth saying I think we should get Kulak because he was a Giant. As I pointed out if you read, I talked about three fundamentals in Kulaks skillset and also mentioned that he used to play for the Giants and the Abbotsford Heat (as he was a Flames draft pick) so therefore he’s familiar with the city and would feel comfortable getting settled here quickly. Hamonic has basically not even played so how does trading him “weaken our D-core”?

It stands currently as 

Ekman-Larsson - Myers

Hughes - Poolman

Burroughs - Schenn

^Adding a rangy, relatively young but experienced D-man who played in the Cup Final last season and focuses on shooting only in the O-zone and being always hardnosed in the D-zone.. how does that weaken our D-core? Yes I think players like Kulak and Gadjovich could help us. In case you’re not aware our problem is potentially coaching and maybe a minor tweak in the bottom nine and bottom pairing D. We’re stacked on paper. I like how you rip the

Guy Boucher idea yet the only other ideas people can come up with are Bruce Boudreau (who’s never come within a goal of the SCF like Guy Boucher did only four years ago), toxic Mike Babcock, and Brad Shaw. And no don’t say Claude Julien as an option because his style and opinions have gone stale and it got reported the Canucks explored him but decided otherwise. Boucher like I said is a former successful forward himself and both his teams in Tampa Bay and Ottawa had no problem scoring flashy goals. He probably had a defensive style (or has in the past) to balance out how like his fiery personality he likes a fiery offense. He also had a lot of high-octane forwards to work with in Tampa Bay and Ottawa so had to have defensive structure. Don’t know why you don’t care that Boucher had the Senators in Game 7 3rd OT of the Eastern Conference Final… got any better coaching ideas? By the way you’re wrong about the vaccine idea because I’m double vaccinated myself and was told flat out I don’t have to wait too long before getting my second one. Maybe you should get the memo. And the vaccine. There’s zero reason Hamonic couldn’t have been vaccinated by now and living up to his new $3 Million dollar contract. Instead he’s made brutal reads and turnovers and played in the minors. Once again. Checkmate.

You sound like a clown with ur checkmate comment who you checkmating lmao. Boucher is so good that he takes his team to the conference final the 1st year and then regresses to the bottom of the league every year after that lol. The team score flashy goals coz their team was full of star players  despite him known as a defensive coach he managed to finish near the bottom of the league in goals against every year after his conference final run. The players are sick of playing the dump and chase game. I'm sure they will try hard to play the 1 3 1 defense lol. 

[NMHockey]

1 hour ago, wai_lai416 said:

You sound like a clown with ur checkmate comment who you checkmating lmao. Boucher is so good that he takes his team to the conference final the 1st year and then regresses to the bottom of the league every year after that lol. The team score flashy goals coz their team was full of star players  despite him known as a defensive coach he managed to finish near the bottom of the league in goals against every year after his conference final run. The players are sick of playing the dump and chase game. I'm sure they will try hard to play the 1 3 1 defense lol. 

You sound like a guy that can’t face facts and I wrote you a New York Times best seller length of facts and you continue to talk with your blind fold on. Wow almost like the Senators started rebuilding after that near cup run? Isn’t it funny how that’s happened with countless teams? Not to mention the problem of Hoffmans wife bullying Karlssons wife which destroyed the locker room and led to the team being changed. You still haven’t suggested who you think is a good coach candidate. You’ve done nothing but respond to my ideas and facts with ripping Guy Boucher for the time you saw him run a 1 3 1. I also had us bringing him in as an assistant. Not as the head coach. So until you learn. Checkmate.

Edited November 30, 2021 by ZH96

[wai_lai416]

6 minutes ago, ZH96 said:

You sound like a guy that can’t face facts and I wrote you a New York Times best seller length of facts and you continue to talk with your blind fold on. Wow almost like the Senators started rebuilding after that near cup run? Isn’t it funny how that’s happened with countless teams? Not to mention the problem of Hoffmans wife bullying Karlssons wife which destroyed the locker room and led to the team being changed. You still haven’t suggested who you think is a good coach candidate. You’ve done nothing but respond to my ideas and facts with ripping Guy Boucher for the time you saw him run a 1 3 1. I also had us bringing him in as an assistant. Not as the head coach. So until you learn. Checkmate.

facts? countless team rebuild after a near cup run? only teams that go on a fluke runs ends up on a rebuild lol. where's the rebuild from washington vegas st louis tampa dallas etc? i didn't recall them go on a rebuild the moment they went on a cup run? oh right they didn't have a fluke run. does it matter who i suggest as a coaching candidate? probably not coz as long as it's not who you like you will bash it to hell with your *fact*. you are one of those idiots in life that likes to spew out crap from what they read or hear and list it as facts and everything you hear or say all of a sudden become facts. 

[wallstreetamigo]

I just want to know why you think Baumgartner should stay.

 

I can’t get past that.

[Devron]

6 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said:

I just want to know why you think Baumgartner should stay.

 

I can’t get past that.

He’s a nice guy

[NMHockey]

30 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

facts? countless team rebuild after a near cup run? only teams that go on a fluke runs ends up on a rebuild lol. where's the rebuild from washington vegas st louis tampa dallas etc? i didn't recall them go on a rebuild the moment they went on a cup run? oh right they didn't have a fluke run. does it matter who i suggest as a coaching candidate? probably not coz as long as it's not who you like you will bash it to hell with your *fact*. you are one of those idiots in life that likes to spew out crap from what they read or hear and list it as facts and everything you hear or say all of a sudden become facts. 

You flat out put words in my mouth before regarding the Kulak trade and it’s in fine print on here. You’re the exact one spewing things you hear. I’m going off of common sense and like I said. Facts. I wrote out everything plain as day for you and you choose to stick to your little foam finger #1 fan point of view. 

And who’s done a rebuild after a cup run you say? Hmmm let’s see..

 

2007 Ducks

 

2015 Blackhawks

 

2016 Penguins did some retooling

 

Besides we were talking about rebuilding after runs not flat out cup winners. As was mentioned with Ottawa and their one goal away from the SCF moment. 
 

By the way from my on ice experience as a player and hockey involved life growing up; I have deep connections to the Canucks, Maple Leafs, WHL, OHL, Europe-Pro, and Minor-Pro. As well check out “Steal of the 2020 NHL Draft” on YouTube and see what people say about me and my opinion in hockey. Did I also mention the Niedermayers are my cousins?

 

PS I bet you have a warning from a moderator coming for your comment about me :). have a nice night little man. Take your

NHL 20 Be a GM mode opinions to bed and accept you started being arrogant for no reason because you didn’t like my idea to fix the Canucks LHD depth.

[NMHockey]

54 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said:

I just want to know why you think Baumgartner should stay.

 

I can’t get past that.

Because I don’t think he’s the problem. Look at all the changes I made around him.

You really think Baumgartner is so bad that all that would do nothing with him still around at the same time? You realize Kevin Bieksa was commenting on the panel today that when he was coming into the league that it was Baumgartner who taught him things and said he’s a great person and leader. Baumgartner gets such a bad rap.

[wai_lai416]

46 minutes ago, ZH96 said:

You flat out put words in my mouth before regarding the Kulak trade and it’s in fine print on here. You’re the exact one spewing things you hear. I’m going off of common sense and like I said. Facts. I wrote out everything plain as day for you and you choose to stick to your little foam finger #1 fan point of view. 

And who’s done a rebuild after a cup run you say? Hmmm let’s see..

 

2007 Ducks

 

2015 Blackhawks

 

2016 Penguins did some retooling

 

Besides we were talking about rebuilding after runs not flat out cup winners. As was mentioned with Ottawa and their one goal away from the SCF moment. 
 

By the way from my on ice experience as a player and hockey involved life growing up; I have deep connections to the Canucks, Maple Leafs, WHL, OHL, Europe-Pro, and Minor-Pro. As well check out “Steal of the 2020 NHL Draft” on YouTube and see what people say about me and my opinion in hockey. Did I also mention the Niedermayers are my cousins?

 

PS I bet you have a warning from a moderator coming for your comment about me :). have a nice night little man. Take your

NHL 20 Be a GM mode opinions to bed and accept you started being arrogant for no reason because you didn’t like my idea to fix the Canucks LHD depth.

woah 3 teams that's full of aging vets? no one cares about who your cousins are or your deep connection with whomever you want to say you have. at the end of the day you are a nobody just like me and thousands of others on this forum. 

 

being arrogant? i ain't the one going around replying to post with the stupid checkmate comment as if i'm 100% right you are 100% wrong lol who's the arrogant one here? 

 

PS: i honestly don't care if i get a warning or not for calling you a clown for posting childish checkmate at the end of ur post. feel free to put me on ignore i don't care either lol