JM_ Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: Would love to have Gillis back in the org as Prez. said it a few times, Gillis PHO, Mellanby GM would be fine by me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Down by the River said: What the Canucks need is someone at the top capable of deciding whether Mellanby would be good or not. And another guy above that to decide if the guy at the top is any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder__Bread Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I don't think Gillis/Gilman left on a good note with ownership so I don't think it'll happen. I've always liked the idea of Gilman playing some role within the organization if at least to make sure our salary cap is well managed but I think the Canucks are in need of something fresh. I feel bringing in some good, experienced hockey people is the best move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, JM_ said: said it a few times, Gillis PHO, Mellanby GM would be fine by me. Would it work bringing him in and keeping JB? Turf Green but I like the players Jim has brought. Was always a fan of Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Gillis ain't ever coming back. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) I couldn’t see Gillis and Gilman coming back unless we change owners, but they were a great team who took the franchise as close as it has ever gotten to the Cup. One thing their their tenure proved was that you need someone from the Old Boys Club running your team. It was shocking how much differently the franchise was treated by the league and other teams. It was like we were being punished for not getting a retread front office and trying to bring new ideas. Of course, lots of the out of the box stuff Gillis was doing then is now used leaguewide. I want Larionov as President. Super well respected in hockey and gives us a good voice at the table. Edited December 3, 2021 by Provost 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyNux Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Would love to have Gillis back in the org as Prez. Didn't he and Aquilini not get along? Gillis wouldn't let Frank touch the day to day stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Provost said: I couldn’t see Gillis and Gilman coming back unless we change owners, but they were a great team who took the franchise as close as it has ever gotten to the Cup. One thing their their tenure proved was that you need someone from the Old Boys Club running your team. It was shocking how much differently the franchise was treated by the league and other teams. It was like we were being punished for not getting a retread front office and trying to bring new ideas. Of course, lots of the out of the box stuff Gillis was doing then is now used leaguewide. I want Larionov as President. Super well respected in hockey and gives us a good voice at the table. I could see Gilman coming back, if he was offered either GM or PoHO. Gillis, I can’t see it. I’d be happy to have him back, as either President (hockey and business side) or PoHO, but I don’t see it working with the current ownership, and I doubt either side would be interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, AbbyNux said: Didn't he and Aquilini not get along? Gillis wouldn't let Frank touch the day to day stuff. I thought they spoke well of each other these days. I dunno, cant see it happening anyway. But Mike Gillis has a great hockey mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefcake Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Ownership has to go in another direction in hiring a new GM. This time they need to go the route of finding a very experienced GM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Would it work bringing him in and keeping JB? Turf Green but I like the players Jim has brought. Was always a fan of Gillis. I guess it depends on how he views Jim.... its hard to say. But bringing Gillis back as PHO certainly allows that to happen and gives Aqua another voice. Depends if they're all over the Luongo debacle or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Gillis ain't ever coming back. Oh he'll be back. He'll be back on crutches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 34 minutes ago, Beefcake said: Ownership has to go in another direction in hiring a new GM. This time they need to go the route of finding a very experienced GM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) I can't see it happening, but I feel like I'd be comfortable with a hierarchy somewhere in the neighbourhood of: pres: mike gillis gm: scott mellanby agm: chris gear, ryan johnson tbd: daniel and henrik sedin Edited December 4, 2021 by tas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Mike Gillis has one of the worst drafting records in NHL history. Mind you with all of the young talent Benning has assembled he wouldn’t need to worry too much about any future drafting for awhile. He would just need to do exactly what he did in 2008, which is add some pieces to an already existing core. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, tas said: I can't see it happening, but I feel like I'd be comfortable with a hierarchy somewhere in the neighbourhood of: pres: mike gillis gm: scott mellanby agm: chris gear, ryan johnson tbd: daniel and henrik sedin So basically recycle a former President and add a guy who’s never been a GM before and worked under Bergevin, who is probably the second worst drafter in NHL history after Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Beefcake said: Ownership has to go in another direction in hiring a new GM. This time they need to go the route of finding a very experienced GM. Depends. I mean there’s lots of experienced GMs who are experienced at making bad moves. It has to be the right fit too. I could live with hiring another rookie GM if they’re a progressive GM like Gillis was. If they’re just another right hand man like a Benning was then no thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: So basically recycle a former President and add a guy who’s never been a GM before and worked under Bergevin, who is probably the second worst drafter in NHL history after Gillis. that's why you have rj there, as well as the scouting staff that benning put in place (assuming they don't stay loyal to him and abandon ship), and whoever you hire/promote to take over some of rj's old roles. no one guy is going to be a saviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Gilman Gillis Mellanby make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 I think the biggest thing that makes sense is having more people on board so one person isn't making all sorts of decisions. Good or bad, everyone can use some other input to consider. I hope Gillis doesn't come back. Gilman was considered excellent with salaries and getting reasonable contracts and I don't recall him being poor at that. Benning has done a very good job at drafting, so it would be too bad to lose that. My guess is he wouldn't want to go backwards but staying within scouting would be good for us. Honestly, upper management can be improved but a coach change and a trade earlier in the season likely would have given us the better chance of salvaging this season. As it stands, unless a miracle season happens, I'm hoping for a home run at the draft. This team is due for some good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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