Hairy Kneel Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said: I think the way this organization and city kind of pushed out Gillis after leading this team to a cup final lead him to have sour feelings against the Canucks. I remember a buddy of mine taking a class with him at UVic and he had a lot of crap to say about the Canucks. LOL. Not a chance he's coming back. Nobody ever hired Gillis again. End of story. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 hours ago, JM_ said: Gillman as GM, Gillis as PHO makes more sense to me. What was the intention of bringing in the sedins as special advisors to the gm? Aren't they being groomed? If I'm a gm thinking about that job I'm asking that question. Eventually the sedins will be taking over this team. Could be as early as next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: Nobody ever hired Gillis again. End of story. I dont think Gillis wanted to be a GM again. Like the high brow snob that he is, he went into academics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 7 hours ago, YEGCanuck said: As I recall Mellanby's father also has a long history of involvement with the NHL. Scott definitely deserves consideration assuming the Canucks search for another GM. On the broadcast front...his father was the head cheese with HNIC for the longest time, from what I remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: I dont think Gillis wanted to be a GM again. Like the high brow snob that he is, he went into academics. MG's Achilleas heel wasn't his drafting. Though it was atrocious. It was that he was hated by GM's around the league as a player agent. The only GM in the league that would pick up the phone when he called was Dale Tallon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, tas said: so you tie the hands of whatever gm you end up hiring, or do you commit to benning? who chooses the new coach, lame duck benning or the owners? The owner has always chosen the new coach, we all know that. Who do you think hired Tortorella? Frank isn't firing Benning. If he was going to he wouldn't have let him dump $12 million in salary that was expiring next year and commit $7 million+ to OEL for 6 more years, plus sign Garland long term at the same time. A lame duck GM wouldn't have had that authority. Frank is committed to both Benning and Green. With Benning, there aren't any alternatives out there at the moment. There are a few coaches so he may go that route if the Canucks continue to lose. We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeQuinnAndEggs Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) Aquilini bought the team during Burke I believe, nonis was AGM, AV was coach. Then Nonis was promoted (rookie ) Gillis (rookie) Torts coach Linden, Benning, Willie D all rookies Green rookie Now possibly Mellanby... another rookie Hey Aquilini, every executive or coach (besides Torts) you've ever hired has been a rookie at their job. And aside from that small window of success with Gillis, that arguably was on the back of Burkes team. We have sucked. Aquilini is a terrible owner, people say oh he spends to the cap.... besides teams like Ottawa Buffalo or Arizona, who none of us want the Canucks to be compared to, every team spends to the cap. FA sucks Edited December 4, 2021 by BlakeQuinnAndEggs 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Scotts been here, if he wants to return I'd assume he has a good idea of what he's getting himself into. Welcome Scott! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josepho Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: The owner has always chosen the new coach, we all know that. Who do you think hired Tortorella? Frank isn't firing Benning. If he was going to he wouldn't have let him dump $12 million in salary that was expiring next year and commit $7 million+ to OEL for 6 more years, plus sign Garland long term at the same time. A lame duck GM wouldn't have had that authority. Frank is committed to both Benning and Green. With Benning, there aren't any alternatives out there at the moment. There are a few coaches so he may go that route if the Canucks continue to lose. We will see. Why aren't there any alternatives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 8 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Another first time GM? These are the Aqui-loonies. Serioulsy Phil, you've been around the block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Jester13 said: Can we please hire experience this time around with coaches and GM? Gillis, Benning, Green, etc., are not going to get it done. We need experience. Full stop. Hire the best GM available. As long as ownership let's them run the show without interference, we'll be golden. That's a big ask with this owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 7 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: The last time I tried to generate a buzz That'll keep the animals away from your pot plants. You animal! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 6 hours ago, stawns said: I don't really have an issue with how the teams been built so far, it's still just a rough draft and needs some polish.........a few key changes and they'll be ready to compete I think I think you're right. From now going forward, I think it's more a case of finding players who fit with the personality of the team. I've been criticizing Benning as being dumb to the room. Not knowing his players and who they give a $&!# about. He has let a bunch slip thru his fingers who were important to the group in the last couple of years and the team looks diminished. If you look at the line up from the bubble vs the line up today, is it really any better? In some aspects it is and in others not so much and his drafted core suffers as players who they have bonded with are cast by the wayside. I'm really pissed at Benning. I used to think that he understood these things. Well, clearly he doesn't. It's going to take a smarter man to take the Canucks to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Who cares if Jim goes or whomever takes his place. We all know who is the real gm here. Francisco should just come out already and name himself president, gm, and head coach of the Canucks. This team ain't ever winning a cup with him in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Beefcake said: Ownership has to go in another direction in hiring a new GM. This time they need to go the route of finding a very experienced GM. All those experienced GM's have been fired at least once by another team though. Most liekly due to a failing of some sort. The thing I like about Mellanby is that he has been in the game for so long and knows every aspect of how organizations work. He has been on winning teams in the past and was a hard nosed guy. He has been said to be a guy who has a keen recognition for talent and could be willing to take this team a different direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 56 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: I think you're right. From now going forward, I think it's more a case of finding players who fit with the personality of the team. I've been criticizing Benning as being dumb to the room. Not knowing his players and who they give a $&!# about. He has let a bunch slip thru his fingers who were important to the group in the last couple of years and the team looks diminished. If you look at the line up from the bubble vs the line up today, is it really any better? In some aspects it is and in others not so much and his drafted core suffers as players who they have bonded with are cast by the wayside. I'm really pissed at Benning. I used to think that he understood these things. Well, clearly he doesn't. It's going to take a smarter man to take the Canucks to the next level. It's not a question of being different so much as it is of transition. It might look different, but the team on the ice right now is a direct consequence of that bubble team. What the bubble playoff showed JB is that the core of Demko, Bo, Petey and Hughes were ready to take the reigns and transition to a new phase of their development. Sometimes, as it is the case here, that can be a bit of a messy transition and it's up to management to make moves to get them over this spot. JB has put a variety of pieces around that core and has amassed a decent asset pool around those guys. And, as you said, now he has to find the right pieces to get that core over the hump and back on the teach they were leading up to their playoff run. I'm not sure why people think he won't get that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 5 hours ago, combover said: That’s not how linden remembers things. I can and do the sedins weren’t the gm it was in his power he used it as an excuse ( like usual) to try to “ turn it around quickly. He failed just likes he’s failed to assemble a mediocre team. There is no logical excuse to keep him he would have been Fired ten times over o. Most nhl teams for the disastrous contracts hes signed. These owners don't tear things down. Benning is a yes man and that is why he is still here as the owners are happy he listens to them. Get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, GB5 said: All those experienced GM's have been fired at least once by another team though. Most liekly due to a failing of some sort. The thing I like about Mellanby is that he has been in the game for so long and knows every aspect of how organizations work. He has been on winning teams in the past and was a hard nosed guy. He has been said to be a guy who has a keen recognition for talent and could be willing to take this team a different direction. You just quoted Jim Benning... Just sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 10 hours ago, 'NucK™ said: Is that not the exact same as his last year being a team option? Yes lol. I have a newborn and my brain isn't translating thoughts to text very well. There is a team option for 2022-2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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