Odjick the Warrior Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Trade #1 Vancouver gets Calgary 2022 1st rounder Florida 2022 2nd rounder Andrew Mangiapane Dillon Dubé Mikael Backlund Calgary gets Bo Horvat Tyler Motte 2022 Winnipeg 3rd rounder Trade #2 Vancouver gets Matthew Boldy Kevin Fiala Minnesota gets Brock Boeser @ 50% retention Luke Schenn Jet Woo Trade #3 Vancouver gets 2022 Boston 1st rounder 2022 Boston 2nd rounder Fabian Lysell Craig Smith Boston gets JT Miller @ 25% retained Alex Chiasson Move the assets of value that Canucks get draft picks or young players instead of just rearranging the deck chairs and telling a bald face lie like JB was when saying this team is a playoff team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghostsof1915 Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 Let's see what a coaching change does first shall we? 1 5 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Let's see what a coaching change does first shall we? You think a new coach is going to make that defense better or have better players on the PK? That’s pissing in my ear and telling me it’s raining 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Calgary says fk off with your offer. They LOVE Mang 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Hiring a new GM and Coach doesn’t equal scrap the team lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: You think a new coach is going to make that defense better or have better players on the PK? That’s pissing in my ear and telling me it’s raining Actually I want to see how the players respond to a new coach and new systems, before cleaning house. Better assessment of the players we have. Right now you'd get jack in return. If the team still struggles make deals at the deadline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Devron44 said: Hiring a new GM and Coach doesn’t equal scrap the team lol It’s not scrapping the team it’s trading assets with value that don’t consider into your future plans Petey, Hughes, Demko, Podkolzin, Höglander are the guys you build around the rest are going to want big money when the Canucks are not going to be good Also between Miller and Horvat one or both need to go because whatever is going on in the locker room it seems the team is not listening to Bo and when that happens something in that locker room dynamic needs to change and quick because it is transmitting through that locker more then COVID-19 last year Edited December 6, 2021 by Odjick 4 Premier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: Calgary says fk off with your offer. They LOVE Mang I like how you think you are Calgary management, they have been looking for a Bo Horvat type 2nd line center and they can trade Johnny Hockey for a different scoring winger in the offseason like to Phillie for Konecny and Horvat is a Darryl Sutter type player not only that Motte is as well Edited December 6, 2021 by Odjick 4 Premier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 43 minutes ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: Trade #1 Vancouver gets Calgary 2022 1st rounder Florida 2022 2nd rounder Andrew Mangiapane Dillon Dubé Mikael Backlund Calgary gets Bo Horvat Tyler Motte 2022 Winnipeg 3rd rounder The flames laugh and hang up. 44 minutes ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: Trade #2 Vancouver gets Matthew Boldy Kevin Fiala Minnesota gets Brock Boeser @ 50% retention Luke Schenn Jet Woo Fiala and Boeser would have similar value. Even if you consider Boeser more valuable, a top prospect is not the difference. 45 minutes ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: Trade #3 Vancouver gets 2022 Boston 1st rounder 2022 Boston 2nd rounder Fabian Lysell Craig Smith Boston gets JT Miller @ 25% retained Alex Chiasson A bit more realistic but doubt something Boston considers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: I like how you think you are Calgary management, they have been looking for a Bo Horvat type 2nd line center and they can trade Johnny Hockey for a different scoring winger in the offseason like to Phillie for Konecny and Horvat is a Darryl Sutter type player not only that Motte is as well I think lots of teams want Bo Horvat as their 2nd line center, including the Vancouver Canucks. I don't see what trading him for a gamble on a pick accomplishes. We already know he's a quality hockey player and he's got lots left in the tank. Bo Horvat is not the problem with this team and I don't think that trading him in our time of desperation is a good idea. GCG! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Miller + Myers (cuz I just don't think he's worth $6M) to NYR for Kratsov (prospect) + Miller (big young LHD) + Schneider (prospect) + 1st. That's what I would like but probably can't happen as not sure how to balance NYR cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 This team needs some tweaking, and someone to establish a team identity. The will be some trades, but I doubt that we’ll see wholesale changes, and I personally don’t think we really need them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckFather Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: Trade #1 Vancouver gets Calgary 2022 1st rounder Florida 2022 2nd rounder Andrew Mangiapane Dillon Dubé Mikael Backlund Calgary gets Bo Horvat Tyler Motte 2022 Winnipeg 3rd rounder Trade #2 Vancouver gets Matthew Boldy Kevin Fiala Minnesota gets Brock Boeser @ 50% retention Luke Schenn Jet Woo Trade #3 Vancouver gets 2022 Boston 1st rounder 2022 Boston 2nd rounder Fabian Lysell Craig Smith Boston gets JT Miller @ 25% retained Alex Chiasson Move the assets of value that Canucks get draft picks or young players instead of just rearranging the deck chairs and telling a bald face lie like JB was when saying this team is a playoff team You don't sell when the value is the lowest it could be dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, BPA said: Miller + Myers (cuz I just don't think he's worth $6M) to NYR for Kratsov (prospect) + Miller (big young LHD) + Schneider (prospect) + 1st. That's what I would like but probably can't happen as not sure how to balance NYR cap. NYR hang up, and hire homesome to throw a pie in your face. That's waaay too much. They won't move K'Andre Miller, they'll want him a part of their core. He plays with Trouba on a shutdown pairing. They have Trouba, Fox and Lundkvist(could be another stud RD on top of Fox) all set as their RD. They don't need Myers. They could part with Schneider and Kratsov(there were rumors of them maybe moving him). I wouldn't want Kratsov though. If he isn't signing there he definitely won't sign here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, nux_win said: I think lots of teams want Bo Horvat as their 2nd line center, including the Vancouver Canucks. I don't see what trading him for a gamble on a pick accomplishes. We already know he's a quality hockey player and he's got lots left in the tank. Bo Horvat is not the problem with this team and I don't think that trading him in our time of desperation is a good idea. GCG! I don't think resigning both of Miller and Horvat will be possible as they both want a lot money in two years and both want 5 years minimum when they need to renovate their lineup through the next two drafts that are loaded with talent to change the Canucks just like how the Avalanche moved on from O'Reilly and Duchene when their deals were coming up and I think the Canucks can reshape their defense and have an actual team identity in a few years by trading Miller, Horvat and Boeser instead of signing each to 4-6 year deals for at minimum of $6Million each player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 44 minutes ago, BPA said: Miller + Myers (cuz I just don't think he's worth $6M) to NYR for Kratsov (prospect) + Miller (big young LHD) + Schneider (prospect) + 1st. That's what I would like but probably can't happen as not sure how to balance NYR cap. NYR use tracking technology. Was set up under Gorton who is looking to expand the department in Montreal. There's very little chance that you could get them to bite on Myers. NYR moved Miller for reasons that went beyond the ice so not sure they'd want him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: NYR hang up, and hire homesome to throw a pie in your face. That's waaay too much. They won't move K'Andre Miller, they'll want him a part of their core. He plays with Trouba on a shutdown pairing. They have Trouba, Fox and Lundkvist(could be another stud RD on top of Fox) all set as their RD. They don't need Myers. They could part with Schneider and Kratsov(there were rumors of them maybe moving him). I wouldn't want Kratsov though. If he isn't signing there he definitely won't sign here. 1 minute ago, mll said: NYR use tracking technology. Was set up under Gorton who is looking to expand the department in Montreal. There's very little chance that you could get them to bite on Myers. NYR moved Miller for reasons that went beyond the ice so not sure they'd want him back. I can dream can't I? Lol. Was hoping JT Miller being the new shiny toy would gloss over the blemishes of Myers ($6M gentle giant). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: I don't think resigning both of Miller and Horvat will be possible as they both want a lot money in two years and both want 5 years minimum when they need to renovate their lineup through the next two drafts that are loaded with talent to change the Canucks just like how the Avalanche moved on from O'Reilly and Duchene when their deals were coming up and I think the Canucks can reshape their defense and have an actual team identity in a few years by trading Miller, Horvat and Boeser instead of signing each to 4-6 year deals for at minimum of $6Million each player You don’t trade Horvat since he is younger than Miller. Trade Miller as much you want… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 minute ago, mll said: NYR use tracking technology. Was set up under Gorton who is looking to expand the department in Montreal. There's very little chance that you could get them to bite on Myers. NYR moved Miller for reasons that went beyond the ice so not sure they'd want him back. NYR needs a better Centre to play with those high end wingers and Miller would be a player that would be good in the playoffs and he is a different player then when he was last in the big apple and on 2 year cap friendly deal I could see NYR doing Kravstov and Nils Lundkvist for Miller and Schenn as they have Braden Schneider in the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, mll said: NYR use tracking technology. Was set up under Gorton who is looking to expand the department in Montreal. There's very little chance that you could get them to bite on Myers. NYR moved Miller for reasons that went beyond the ice so not sure they'd want him back. Trouba, Fox and Lundkvist is another good reason. Their top 4/5D are pretty set for a while. Lundkvist is just getting started too and he could be a stud. Already a few rumours/speculation in NY with a potential reunion with JT Miller. So it looks like it's not outside the realm of probability. A number of teams have been circling around Miller (including one of his old teams, the New York Rangers) amid the Canucks’ disastrous season, although it seems as if GM Jim Benning does not have the full autonomy to make a core-altering trade at the moment. Frank Seravalli, DFO Larry Brooks of the NY Post notes that the Rangers may face a decision regarding Ryan Strome soon. They may also consider replacing him with Miller next year. The Rangers would certainly be interested in a reunion with the player they selected 15th overall in that 2011 draft, depending on the price demanded in return. He could slide onto the right side with either Kreider and Zibanejad or with Panarin or Strome. He could also go into the middle if needed. NY Post (subscription required) Strome is a pending UFA and is in line for a significant increase which next year’s cap crunched Rangers can’t afford. His current cap hit is $4.5M and his next contract should be significantly higher. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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