Early Take - New GM “The Group” and Bruce Boudreau

[nynuck]

Not saying that Gabby is the answer, but man, watching him talk to the media: he's a breathe of fresh air. He obviously has a plan, he's smart & he's a very likable guy. In the pregame media interview, IMO, he said all the right things. Telling BB to shoot instead of pass (been yelling that at the screen for 3 years), planning on making small, smart changes... Early take: I like him a lot.

[Johnny Torts]

I like how noticeably different and better the systems were after a 30 min morning skate

[JM_]

12 hours ago, Shekky said:

according to Corey Hirsch on Donnie and Dhali JB and Wiesbrod pretty much stopped communicating with the rest of the organization which clearly can't be a good thing and there was a lot of finger pointing I mean its only speculation but at any rate times have changed and now lets see how this organization can bounce back under a new management group

this always happens when a senior manager relies too heavily on a 'right hand man'. Many people have seen this at work at some point or another regardless of the industry.

 

I do think Weisbrod was the toxic driver in a lot of Canucks drama over the last few years. Glad he's gone. 

[JM_]

14 minutes ago, Johnny Torts said:

I like how noticeably different and better the systems were after a 30 min morning skate

if Bruce can get top 4 d performance out of Myers thats a huge win for us. 

[Dedalus]

Have people already shared this on any threads?

 

https://soundcloud.com/thenielsonshow/sets/filthy-bruce

[6of1_halfdozenofother]

I'm more of the mind that this was a situation of a coach who was too set in their ways (much like AV was when he was here).  Too much reliance on certain players with certain characteristics playing certain roles, not much willingness to reassign resources to see if new synergies could be developed, new strategies could be tested.

 

The best coaches aren't dogmatic in their approach.  They go with the flow and adjust based on the situations that present themselves.  Once they get set in their ways, they're writing their own pink slip.

[erkayloomeh]

14 hours ago, Johnny Torts said:

First off, I love our General Manager,  isn’t “The Group” just the coolest nickname for a GM?

 

Love Steamer and I hope he ultimately steps up to POHO and stays there for a long time, or just flourishes as a GM.

 

Anyways…

 

Coaching was the problem.

 

 

Jim Benning not firing the coach earlier was also the problem.

 

 

What are your thoughts of how the Canucks are playing under the new regime?

 

I’m not done. 
 

Why did Pettersson feel closer to Boudreau to go to him and ask about being on the PK? 
 

Why does Boudreau trust Pettersson on the dot? 
 

Why is this team immediately doing better playing a 2-3 style? 
 

This seems to me like the reason why Jim Benning not dismissing Green earlier is frustrating, and the ultimate reason why he is not here. Despite all the other July 1st BS, and the bad trades.

 

Because of JB and TG, the fans that are HEAVILY invested into this team and are educated, we’re left scratching there heads as to WHY a team that is decent enough on paper to atleast go .500 throughout the season, is struggling this badly.

 

Travis is a good coach, but I think there’s a bias after multiple years with the same org. 
 

Benning, ultimately, had too big of an ego to admit there’s things he did wrong and fix it. 

 

Thanks for listening to my BS btw appreciate y’all.

 

Travis Green is a good coach for a team full of grinders. He's not a good coach for a skill team. He stifled and choked this team and I wonder how guys like virtanen and goldobin would have played under BB.

 

[JM_]

Just now, erkayloomeh said:

Travis Green is a good coach for a team full of grinders. He's not a good coach for a skill team. He stifled and choked this team and I wonder how guys like virtanen and goldobin would have played under BB.

 

Goldy may have been benched faster, he was just too lazy away from the puck, can't see that sitting well with Bruce. 

 

Jake... yeah maybe he's still here? (barring the accusations of course)

[Psycho_Path]

8 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said:

Travis Green is a good coach for a team full of grinders. He's not a good coach for a skill team. He stifled and choked this team and I wonder how guys like virtanen and goldobin would have played under BB.

 

ya, even Player Name. I think if the systems on the team had been better he wouldn't have had such the performance.

 

Edit: GG CDC for replacing Eirickson (s.i.c.) with Player Name

Edited December 7, 2021 by Psycho_Path

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

2 hours ago, Johnny Torts said:

I like how noticeably different and better the systems were after a 30 min morning skate

Perhaps 30 min before morning skate. 

Edited December 7, 2021 by AlwaysACanuckFan

[Maddogy]

4 hours ago, nynuck said:

Not saying that Gabby is the answer, but man, watching him talk to the media: he's a breathe of fresh air. He obviously has a plan, he's smart & he's a very likable guy. In the pregame media interview, IMO, he said all the right things. Telling BB to shoot instead of pass (been yelling that at the screen for 3 years), planning on making small, smart changes... Early take: I like him a lot.

He got a plan because he was fired multiple times and had the down time to figure out what he would do differently. That is experience. 

[nergish]

Podkolzin - EP40 - Garland

Dickinson - Miller - Boeser

Pearson - Horvat - Hoglander

 

One freaking game in and Bruce found that sweet spot for the top 9.
 

He was riding Podkolzin quite a bit too, something tells me he’s enamoured with the kid’s toolkit.

[Jester13]

8 minutes ago, nergish said:

Podkolzin - EP40 - Garland

Dickinson - Miller - Boeser

Pearson - Horvat - Hoglander

 

One freaking game in and Bruce found that sweet spot for the top 9.
 

He was riding Podkolzin quite a bit too, something tells me he’s enamoured with the kid’s toolkit.

Watch the same lines next game, and the next, and chemistry builds and builds. What a novel idea!

[derr12]

3 hours ago, JM_ said:

if Bruce can get top 4 d performance out of Myers thats a huge win for us. 

I thought myers looked the part last night. id like to see him lay the body a bit more when he has an opportunity tho.  

[JM_]

57 minutes ago, Jester13 said:

Watch the same lines next game, and the next, and chemistry builds and builds. What a novel idea!

[SilentSam]

16 hours ago, Johnny Torts said:

First off, I love our General Manager,  isn’t “The Group” just the coolest nickname for a GM?

 

Love Steamer and I hope he ultimately steps up to POHO and stays there for a long time, or just flourishes as a GM.

 

Anyways…

 

Coaching was the problem.

 

 

Jim Benning not firing the coach earlier was also the problem.

 

 

What are your thoughts of how the Canucks are playing under the new regime?

 

I’m not done. 
 

Why did Pettersson feel closer to Boudreau to go to him and ask about being on the PK? 
 

Why does Boudreau trust Pettersson on the dot? 
 

Why is this team immediately doing better playing a 2-3 style? 
 

This seems to me like the reason why Jim Benning not dismissing Green earlier is frustrating, and the ultimate reason why he is not here. Despite all the other July 1st BS, and the bad trades.

 

Because of JB and TG, the fans that are HEAVILY invested into this team and are educated, we’re left scratching there heads as to WHY a team that is decent enough on paper to atleast go .500 throughout the season, is struggling this badly.

 

Travis is a good coach, but I think there’s a bias after multiple years with the same org. 
 

Benning, ultimately, had too big of an ego to admit there’s things he did wrong and fix it. 

 

Thanks for listening to my BS btw appreciate y’all.

 

1 game and we’re assessing?

 

I think Francesco needs to be applauded vigorously for the move.. 

my guess is the Coaching came into question a while back and Benning felt he needed to support Green to the end,.  And did.

Boudreau has experience in situations like this,  I’m sure he did his own analysis and was approached weeks ago on the matter.

No body arrives overnight, in these situations.

a plan was in place..

 

..But Francesco deserves all the credit here.

 

 

[Rindiculous]

14 hours ago, Chris12345 said:

Ask again in 10 games....good start though 

With 11 wins under our belt with Boudreau at that time, we'll be saying that Christmas came early.

[IBatch]

Got to say if the players are happy about the change then power too them.   I'm sure they are relieved given this means no knee jerk trades are imminent, a new regime won't pull the trigger right away at least.   I also like that the fans seem to love it, and don't mind the gigantic circle jerk going on right now with the CDC, everyone holding hands and each other's dicks at the same time is a much more pleasant experience.   I'm with Brice though.  A couple losses, probably like 3/4 in a row and it will be "Bruce there he goes"...lol.    Let's wait awhile before we judge too much.   That said i really like his interviews, and am really enjoying the fans who took the time to find memes of him and videos.   Seems like Burke and Quin is back with a really nice level of humility and humour.    The oldies are always the goodies and the best.   Travis Green and Jim Benning, thanks for the memories too.   Wish them both the best going forward.    

 

Smyl - guys awesome.   Linden took Lord Benning to meet him before the locker room and the owners.   A national treasure.  So please be kind and don't rewind later if things go to the $&!#ter for awhile sorting this out. 

[aqua59]

13 hours ago, CanuckGAME said:

Its one game.

 

Boudreau has had zero effect on change in one day, except his presence alone.

 

Want to know why we won today,  and in convincing fashion?  Because these guys played like they gave a **** for the 1st time this season.

 

Only because they want to make an impression on the new guy.

That's right Boudreau had zero effect other than presence. He spoke with individual players I'm sure that had no effect when talking about an individuals game. none at all.

 

I will agree they finally played like they were professions. 

[King Heffy]

9 minutes ago, aqua59 said:

That's right Boudreau had zero effect other than presence. He spoke with individual players I'm sure that had no effect when talking about an individuals game. none at all.

 

I will agree they finally played like they were professions. 

Not to mention the strategy was different, the lines made sense, and different players were used on the pk.  No difference at all.