King Heffy Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Nick Kypreos is basically laughing at how aggressive Jimmy Rutherford will be. I think Rathbone and our 1st will be gone this year. I don't want to trade the first, but Rathbone should be available; we have a surplus of offence-first LD. A hockey trade involving him makes a lot of sense, possibly for a young center or a more defensive minded D., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Did you know Kypreos suggested the Oilers trade Draisaitl in Feburary of 2018? You know, right before he broke out and became one of the best players in hockey. All Kyper is saying is that Rutherford will be aggressive. Do you think he's wrong ? Like trade Rathbone and our 1st this year agressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: But Benning had the sense to keep every other pick and/or have some development going behind the scenes. Rutherford doesn't have that sense. He will trade Rathbone without thinking much of it if he thinks he can get a piece for this year I'm one of the few who feel a sense of concern around this like you do. I don't want to have the "win now" mentality, as our guys are still young, and I'm concerned that our cupboards will be even emptier after JR is done. Of course, if it works then all is forgotten, but many teams have failed throughout the years in an attempt to trade for a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, King Heffy said: I don't want to trade the first, but Rathbone should be available; we have a surplus of offence-first LD. A hockey trade involving him makes a lot of sense, possibly for a young center or a more defensive minded D., I remember having some battles with you about Rathbone earlier this season, but with hindsight you were probably right. Based on what I saw this year I overrated him quite a bit (although that might have had something to do with our terrible coaching at the time), and with both OEL and Hughes locked in long term, he's probably a redundant piece here. No objection using him to land a more defensive LD, a good right handed center/center prospect, or as a piece to land us that elusive top pairing right D we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: All Kyper is saying is that Rutherford will be aggressive. Do you think he's wrong ? Like trade Rathbone and our 1st this year agressive I don't know. A few people have said that Rutherford has already commented that Vancouver is in a different position than Pittsburgh was when he became GM there. If these comments are accurate, then there isn't a reason to believe he'll treat the Canucks like he treated the Pens. And you seem to believe that "aggression" is inherently a negative trait. I'd much rather have a management team willing to be aggressive in filling holes than one content to sit idly by and do nothing. And this is assuming that your idea that Rutherford will be acting as GM is correct, which at this point we have no reason to believe is true. He stepped down as GM in Pitts, indicating that he no longer wanted to operate as a GM. If he and Aqualini wanted him to operate as GM, why wouldn't he have been named both president and permanent GM? Why would Aquilini be okay with paying a "pencil pusher" GM to essentially do nothing, especially considering he has to eat the remainder of Green, Baum, Benning and Weis's salaries? It's just speculative bull$&!#. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 hours ago, JM_ said: Just remember with those mistakes came 3 cups. Basically the poster is trying to say Jim did nothing to be credited for those three Cups, Jim was just lucky to be there for the ride. How clueless is the poster or just a troll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Farm team rankings https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2911430-nhl-farm-system-rankings-which-team-has-the-best-group-of-prospects Dead last. Pittsburgh Penguins. First. LA Kings. LA has won the cup in 2012 and 2014 and here we are in 2021 and they have the top prospect pool according to this report. So it shows that you can in fact, win cups and have a future. But Aqualini chose the Pittsburgh model when he could have chosen the Kings model. I think all of our GMs since Nonis were working within the Kings model. Which is why i supported all 3 of them. But now that is all changed Edited December 10, 2021 by MaxVerstappen33 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Farm team rankings https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2911430-nhl-farm-system-rankings-which-team-has-the-best-group-of-prospects Dead last. Pittsburgh Penguins. First. LA Kings. LA has won the cup in 2012 and 2014 and here we are in 2021 and they have the top prospect pool according to this report. So it shows that you can in fact, win cups and have a future. But Aqualini chose the Pittsburgh model when he could have chosen the Kings model. I think all of our GMs since Nonis were working within the Kings model. Which is why i supported all 3 of them. But now that is all changed LA has been terrible for several years while Pittsburgh has consistently been one of the better teams in the league during that time period. Just stop. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Farm team rankings https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2911430-nhl-farm-system-rankings-which-team-has-the-best-group-of-prospects Dead last. Pittsburgh Penguins. First. LA Kings. LA has won the cup in 2012 and 2014 and here we are in 2021 and they have the top prospect pool according to this report. So it shows that you can in fact, win cups and have a future. But Aqualini chose the Pittsburgh model when he could have chosen the Kings model. I think all of our GMs since Nonis were working within the Kings model. Which is why i supported all 3 of them. But now that is all changed Rutherford has said before he prefers the Chicago model which was skill and discipline which the Pens were similar to style of play over the Kings which. Expect us to place importance in speed and players able to make plays at high speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Farm team rankings https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2911430-nhl-farm-system-rankings-which-team-has-the-best-group-of-prospects Dead last. Pittsburgh Penguins. First. LA Kings. LA has won the cup in 2012 and 2014 and here we are in 2021 and they have the top prospect pool according to this report. So it shows that you can in fact, win cups and have a future. But Aqualini chose the Pittsburgh model when he could have chosen the Kings model. I think all of our GMs since Nonis were working within the Kings model. Which is why i supported all 3 of them. But now that is all changed there is no model, there are humans making decisions about other humans in real time. vancouver has a completely unique set of assets and circumstances than pittsburgh did. the canucks have a hall of famer with 3 rings making those decisions now. rutherford will do what he needs to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, PositionOfPower said: Rutherford has said before he prefers the Chicago model which was skill and discipline which the Pens were similar to style of play over the Kings which. Expect us to place importance in speed and players able to make plays at high speeds. Should be only minor tweaks needed then, and he'll be happy with the coach in place so people can stop complaining about Bruce being an Aquilini hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Edited December 10, 2021 by MaxVerstappen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 From Steve Dangle. Apparently JR was working on a Chris Letang trade and ownership vetoed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Man you are obsessed with this Rutherford thing. Quit whining about it already. Put your hero Benning’s trade and win/loss record next to Rutherford’s. If you are still crying it’s an irrational hate. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Rindiculous said: I'm just scared he'll hire Botterill...the guy who signed Jeff Skinner to the worst contract of all time Benning and Player Name say hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Man you are obsessed with this Rutherford thing. Quit whining about it already. Put your hero Benning’s trade and win/loss record next to Rutherford’s. If you are still crying it’s an irrational hate. Agree 3 cups says all and dont say he had crosby malkin. If this was so easy edmonton with mcdavid draisaitl would have won the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 55 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Farm team rankings https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2911430-nhl-farm-system-rankings-which-team-has-the-best-group-of-prospects Dead last. Pittsburgh Penguins. First. LA Kings. LA has won the cup in 2012 and 2014 and here we are in 2021 and they have the top prospect pool according to this report. So it shows that you can in fact, win cups and have a future. But Aqualini chose the Pittsburgh model when he could have chosen the Kings model. I think all of our GMs since Nonis were working within the Kings model. Which is why i supported all 3 of them. But now that is all changed Lol look at Benning’s moves again then try to tell us he was working under any model let alone LA’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: From Steve Dangle. Apparently JR was working on a Chris Letang trade and ownership vetoed it. So a president that won't take $&!# from ownership? I fail to see how that's a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: So a president that won't take $&!# from ownership? I fail to see how that's a bad thing. Maybe it was such a lopsided ridiculous trade that they had to stop it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Lol look at Benning’s moves again then try to tell us he was working under any model let alone LA’s. Benning wasn't trading ALL of his picks to the point where we had ONE 1st round pick in 7 years. He would trade one , wait a year , trade another , keep the next ect. Rutherford gambles so big that he has the chance , if it goes wrong , to outdo Millbury. The next 3 years will fly by. We will know soon enough. The first trade will come soon enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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