Report: Canucks fire assistant GM Chris Gear and analytics director Jonathan Wall

[lmm]

2 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Farhan Lalji

he is one of the reasons I like Donnie and Dhali

[lmm]

1 hour ago, King Heffy said:

I don't think Drance or any of those other dweebs should be on during the intermission.  Put actual hockey people on.

its kind of like Tim and Friends

"I'll talk to anyone (goldfish)

well maybe not anyone

[kilgore]

2 hours ago, lmm said:

I must be the only person here who doesn't mind Drance.

I don't read the Athletic unless it is reposted here, so in effect its CDC fans that bring me that tripe.

I would rather watch him during the intermissions than Sat +and his little buddy (sorry little buddy, I'll get your name some day) or IMac or Anthony Stewart (and he played the game.

And then there is the wide spread applause for Aquaman griping with IMac, which I think is just sad

What is the old cliche? Don't argue with a fool lest you be mistaken for one

 

and here we have the likes of Heffy who rants on about everyone being scum or trash.

Do you think that kid doesn't have dreams of becoming the next Drance?

 

 

 

I don't mind him either. Other than his laugh is annoying.  I think its a kind of sport on CDC to insult the local sports media personalities, just because.  When if you actually just read someone like Drance's questions and thoughts, many would have the same questions.  I loved Botchford.  He was speaking truth to power in the early days of JB, about how "we need an army!" while JB was giving away picks and prospects like candy.  But most here had their blue and green glasses on with Francesco, and were fooled by the "quick turnaround" dreams, with the 2011 run still fresh in their heads. And Botch was tarred and feathered on CDC.

 

Of course some go too far sometimes.  Sekeres is a moron sometimes.  I can't listen to him. But so many fans here just generally hate on the messengers all the time.  Maybe I'm just someone who likes to hear about the parts that still need work on a team. No matter if its a successful team like Tampa Bay, there's always something a team can be better at.  Some of us can still love, support, and cheer for our favourite team, and can also stomach the critical voices on the side who nag the team management to always point out ways they could do better.

 

 

[lmm]

5 minutes ago, kilgore said:

 

I don't mind him either. Other than his laugh is annoying.  I think its a kind of sport on CDC to insult the local sports media personalities, just because.  When if you actually just read someone like Drance's questions and thoughts, many would have the same questions.  I loved Botchford.  He was speaking truth to power in the early days of JB, about how "we need an army!" while JB was giving away picks and prospects like candy.  But most here had their blue and green glasses on with Francesco, and were fooled by the "quick turnaround" dreams, with the 2011 run still fresh in their heads. And Botch was tarred and feathered on CDC.

 

Of course some go too far sometimes.  Sekeres is a moron sometimes.  I can't listen to him. But so many fans here just generally hate on the messengers all the time.  Maybe I'm just someone who likes to hear about the parts that still need work on a team. No matter if its a successful team like Tampa Bay, there's always something a team can be better at.  Some of us can still love, support, and cheer for our favourite team, and can also stomach the critical voices on the side who nag the team management to always point out ways they could do better.

 

 

well said

 

DraNCE for GM!!

 

j/k watch someone put that in their sig

[86Viking]

With what Rutherford said about bring in an assistant GM this week, wonder if he will try to free Karmanos out of Buffalo?

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[tas]

52 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

oof.  talk about a demotion. 

[ShawnAntoski]

55 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Congrats and looking forward, to his [insiders] take.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Uh this could be very spicy, can't wait to read his point of view on the league/signings, etc. 

 

Daily Faceoff is quickly becoming my second favourite hockey podcast. 

[Ballisticsports.]

12 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said:

Uh this could be very spicy, can't wait to read his point of view on the league/signings, etc. 

 

Daily Faceoff is quickly becoming my second favourite hockey podcast. 

 

Doubtful he will throw anyone under the bus as he is young and may want to get back to the NHL

He will be very careful of what he says if he has any aspirations of an NHL return

 

[Dazzle]

On 12/13/2021 at 11:07 AM, lmm said:

its a low budget operation

the good interviews are on Donnie and Dhali or HNIC

Dhali is noticeably a contrarian to Donnie, which is good, but the guests on the show consistently subscribe to the idea that Green is a good coach, which of course is total nonsense.

 

Seems like Donnie and Dhali only promote people who think like they do.

[Dazzle]

On 12/12/2021 at 10:04 PM, Josepho said:

Take accountability, express understanding of why the team is in the position that they're in, possibly learn from mistakes, not blame your team sucking on bull$&!# such as the division you're playing in. Any time there's a crises in the workplace, on a sports team, politically, etc., you need a strong voice to take charge. The man admitted that he didn't know why the team was losing; how can you possibly have someone like that leading your organization? 

Take accountability, express understanding of why the team is in the position that they're in, possibly learn from mistakes, not blame your team sucking... blah blah blah. That all applies to Green, which of course you don't admit.

[Guest]

"It’s not hard to understand where the frustration comes from. It is painful to continually be asked what’s wrong when there isn’t a simple answer and harder still when the tone turns negative. 

 

As someone who has recently been in the eye of the storm when a team’s play falls short of expectations, I can tell you that it creates relentless noise that detracts from the job at hand. It also breeds a negative energy, a fear over job losses, a drain on morale and a dangerous temptation to point fingers. 

The discomfort is felt not just in the hockey operations offices, but throughout an organization. I can guarantee you that the Oilers ticket sales department is hearing from disappointed season ticket holders, fan services managers are getting more random complaints at Rogers Place and the receptionist is being insulted daily by angry fans calling to vent. That’s real life in the NHL, an unfortunate part of the deal." 

 

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/gear-view-of-the-turmoil-in-oil-country-from-someone-in-the-eye-of-the-storm-in-vancouver/

 

[Josepho]

5 hours ago, Dazzle said:

Take accountability, express understanding of why the team is in the position that they're in, possibly learn from mistakes, not blame your team sucking... blah blah blah. That all applies to Green, which of course you don't admit.

I agree that it also applies to Green.

 

Both Benning and Green are massive losers.

Edited January 20, 2022 by Josepho

[Dazzle]

9 hours ago, Josepho said:

I agree that it also applies to Green.

 

Both Benning and Green are massive losers.

Also applies to Gillis too. The team was empty with prospects with the way the team was run.

[Timråfan]

5 hours ago, Dazzle said:

Also applies to Gillis too. The team was empty with prospects with the way the team was run.

Gillis was a winner compared to Benning… Gillis did what he had to do trying to win the cup. After that it’s natural to move on from Gillis and go into rebuild with another GM.

Benning just tried to get in the play offs and got an almost empty prospect pool.

Therefor another GM and organisation is needed that can go the whole way and it’s first now I see that happen.

So stop clinging to Benning.

Enjoy what’s coming instead.

 

[Dazzle]

4 hours ago, Timråfan said:

Gillis was a winner compared to Benning… Gillis did what he had to do trying to win the cup. After that it’s natural to move on from Gillis and go into rebuild with another GM.

Benning just tried to get in the play offs and got an almost empty prospect pool.

Therefor another GM and organisation is needed that can go the whole way and it’s first now I see that happen.

So stop clinging to Benning.

Enjoy what’s coming instead.

 

So you are admitting that Gillis ran the team to the ground. That's all that matters from this post.

Edited January 21, 2022 by Dazzle

[Timråfan]

34 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

So you are admitting that Gillis ran the team to the ground. That's all that matters from this post.

I understand that different periods in a teams life needs different leaders.

I wasn’t around when Gillis was here so I can’t judge what he did.

Benning on the other hand I had first seat and watched one of the worst leaders I’ve seen in a top athlete club in any sport.

[AV.]

Here's the truth.

Gillis had an elite tenure.  Got things done, won many things, nearly won it all in fact, but eventually his shortcomings caught up to him and he was rightfully sacked.

Benning was good on the day of his opening press conference and that's it.  Huge downhill spiral into Buffalo and Arizona territory under his leadership.  Lost everything, became the laughing stock of the NHL, has sent fans into depression, made the Whitecaps become the best team in Vancouver.  The damage he caused will take YEARS to repair.

Benning and Wiesbrod were worse than Keenan and Messier.