Popular Post SilentSam Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Begins with this., hope they can expand on the loan out of prospects and players between the 2 leagues. would be so much better for hockey. #saveTryamkin Edited January 10, 2022 by SilentSam Hoping to focus on current KHL news 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 I highly doubt the KHL is the problem. The issue is Tram. If he doesn't want to play in North America. So be it. Could we use him? Absolutely. Whatever decision he makes, that's his call of what's best for him and his family. Besides in the KHL players the money they make is tax free. So even if he makes $2 million US That's like $4 million in an NHL salary. Coupled with his wife has a career. And I'm pretty sure housing prices aren't nuts like here. I can understand why the NHL isn't maybe what he wants. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: I highly doubt the KHL is the problem. The issue is Tram. If he doesn't want to play in North America. So be it. Could we use him? Absolutely. Whatever decision he makes, that's his call of what's best for him and his family. Besides in the KHL players the money they make is tax free. So even if he makes $2 million US That's like $4 million in an NHL salary. Coupled with his wife has a career. And I'm pretty sure housing prices aren't nuts like here. I can understand why the NHL isn't maybe what he wants. Tryamkin aside.. a better relationship with the KHL will be better for both leagues,. As it is with the agreements the NHL has with the European Leagues. Prospects, and signed players shared and developed for the NHL around the world. and a buffering of sorts, for players leaving one continent to another. Edited December 11, 2021 by SilentSam 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: Tryamkin aside.. a better relationship with the KHL will be better for both leagues,. As it is with the agreements the NHL has with the European Leagues. Prospects, and signed players shared and developed for the NHL around the world. and a buffering of sorts, for players leaving one continent to another. That I have no doubt. The league itself might be struggling (KHL). But the players getting tax free income, gives them advantages other leagues just don't have. The fact they are willing to talk with the NHL is an improvement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Seems pretty obvious. KHL is on the rise. As the gap between NHL and KHL gradually narrows, it will be in the NHL's best interest to be on nicer terms with them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 40 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said: Seems pretty obvious. KHL is on the rise. As the gap between NHL and KHL gradually narrows, it will be in the NHL's best interest to be on nicer terms with them. Gonna go out on a limb and say that if former NHL/AHL/ECHL slugs like Curtis Valk, Nik Goldobin, Brandon Leipsic, Kenny Agostino, Jori Lehtera, Stephane DaCosta, Ryan Spooner, Niklas Jensen are among the top 30 scorers in the KHL, the margin between the NHL and KHL is in no terms narrowing. My only surprise is not seeing Virtanen up there...but then again, not. Where a better relationship between the two league is of benefit is hoping kids like Podkolzin doesn't get the run-around from their respective KHL clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 36 minutes ago, bigbadcanucks said: My only surprise is not seeing Virtanen up there...but then again, not. Virtanen has 9 goals and 6 assists in 29 games with a -4 plus/minus. This says more about Jake than it does about the KHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Is the KHL even going to exist in five years? The league loses money hand over fist, doesn’t it? The only way it can survive might be to become part of a greater NHL? It’s kind of like the CFL in that way. Edited December 11, 2021 by Alflives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, Alflives said: Is the KHL even going to exist in five years? The league loses money hand over fist, doesn’t it? The only way it can survive might be to become part of a greater NHL? It’s kind of like the CFL in that way. I think they’ll survive Alf, they s p r a w l e d themselves with too many teams.. directly trying to mimic the size of the NHL , without realizing their own fanbase, or the fans who can afford to go to a game. a couple of years ago I read a report that said that the cost to go to a live KHL game was equal to the average Ruskie’s one week earnings. At that time they were dropping teams that did not make the cut financially to support themselves. Most clubs that are surviving now have adopted the NHL or IIHF size rinks. The KHL and it’s governing body are buying into quality over quantity now.. and being far more public with their decision making. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, bigbadcanucks said: Gonna go out on a limb and say that if former NHL/AHL/ECHL slugs like Curtis Valk, Nik Goldobin, Brandon Leipsic, Kenny Agostino, Jori Lehtera, Stephane DaCosta, Ryan Spooner, Niklas Jensen are among the top 30 scorers in the KHL, the margin between the NHL and KHL is in no terms narrowing. My only surprise is not seeing Virtanen up there...but then again, not. Where a better relationship between the two league is of benefit is hoping kids like Podkolzin doesn't get the run-around from their respective KHL clubs. Lol, I hope that's not meant to be a serious argument? Edited December 12, 2021 by HighOnHockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said: Lol, I hope that's not meant to be a serious argument? Their are high end young Russian players in the KHL, who will come to the NHL when they are out of their contracts. The older guys, excepting a very few, are not NHL level players though. The league likely will contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Their are high end young Russian players in the KHL, who will come to the NHL when they are out of their contracts. The older guys, excepting a very few, are not NHL level players though. The league likely will contract. You're always good for a chuckle Alf. Not even sarcasm or patronizing. I've come to understand and appreciate your trolly sense of humor and you probably make me laugh more than anyone on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Glad to see these talks happening. For those of us who love the sport, there's a common good to be found across the geopolitical divide that separates us. I think back to the 1972 series and how much our exposure to Russian hockey changed the game over here for the better in the years that followed. Or to what Bure did for our club. There needs to be more cooperation, more respect and more appreciation, not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Maniwaki Canuck said: Glad to see these talks happening. For those of us who love the sport, there's a common good to be found across the geopolitical divide that separates us. I think back to the 1972 series and how much our exposure to Russian hockey changed the game over here for the better in the years that followed. Or to what Bure did for our club. There needs to be more cooperation, more respect and more appreciation, not less. I’m more for extreme caution. I don’t have a problem with Russian players coming over to play NHL but greater co-operation with the KHL is somewhat hypocritical. Putin controls the Russian Ice Hockey Federation and the KHL. These are the people who cut a hole in the wall of the testing facility at Sochi and tampered with urine sample. These are not good people and should not be legitimized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 16 hours ago, Boudrias said: I’m more for extreme caution. I don’t have a problem with Russian players coming over to play NHL but greater co-operation with the KHL is somewhat hypocritical. Putin controls the Russian Ice Hockey Federation and the KHL. These are the people who cut a hole in the wall of the testing facility at Sochi and tampered with urine sample. These are not good people and should not be legitimized. That's exactly the kind of crap we get fed daily by our media. After 1991, Russia was looted by western-backed oligarchs and the IMF. I'm glad they're getting back on thir feet and are an independent country again, unlike us. Whatever Putin's faults may be, he got that job done and deserves some respect for it. Our media's unhinged push for war with Russia and China is not a reliable guide to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MaxVerstappen33 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) On 12/11/2021 at 9:10 AM, Ghostsof1915 said: I highly doubt the KHL is the problem. The issue is Tram. If he doesn't want to play in North America. So be it. Could we use him? Absolutely. Whatever decision he makes, that's his call of what's best for him and his family. Besides in the KHL players the money they make is tax free. So even if he makes $2 million US That's like $4 million in an NHL salary. Coupled with his wife has a career. And I'm pretty sure housing prices aren't nuts like here. I can understand why the NHL isn't maybe what he wants. Benning wasn't willing to pay above NHL market money to keep him. Say his NHL worth is 1.75 million. Benning wouldn't give him 2.1 million. But this isn't a Tram thread. Edited January 12, 2022 by MaxVerstappen33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/11/2021 at 12:51 PM, Alflives said: Is the KHL even going to exist in five years? The league loses money hand over fist, doesn’t it? The only way it can survive might be to become part of a greater NHL? It’s kind of like the CFL in that way. The KHL will be around. Many teams lose money but its the exact same in the NHL. Russia has the 5th most billionaires in the world. These teams don't have to make money for them. They are pride projects for billionaires. 100% tax writeoffs too. Check out some of the arenas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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