NMHockey Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 I’m not sure if many are aware but one of Vancouvers Amateur Scouts named Patrik Jonsson passed away of cancer a few months back at only 51 years old. He was a European based scout for us and had watched Hoglander since Nils was 15 and was a big reason we drafted him. Not only was it a loss of a family man and a good man. But for the organization it was a big loss and we know how important scouting is for every aspect of the teams play and outcome. Perhaps we should really look into finding another Swedish/European Amateur Scout. Any ideas??? Markus Naslund? Mats Sundin? Daniel Alfredsson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Also isn’t Benning’s son an amateur scout for us without having any history of playing or scouting background? I don’t know if he’s good or not but it certainly sounds like a hire just because his Dad was the GM not because he actually deserves it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, ken kaniff said: Also isn’t Benning’s son an amateur scout for us without having any history of playing or scouting background? I don’t know if he’s good or not but it certainly sounds like a hire just because his Dad was the GM not because he actually deserves it. If that were true I feel like he woulda signed Matt Benning when he was a free agent. But I dunno, I feel like ownership would have axed the idea of signing his son if it were just to give family a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Can we get Judd Brackett back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, N7Nucks said: If that were true I feel like he woulda signed Matt Benning when he was a free agent. But I dunno, I feel like ownership would have axed the idea of signing his son if it were just to give family a job. I heard Matt Benning turned down signing with the Canucks a few seasons ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 2:45 PM, ken kaniff said: Also isn’t Benning’s son an amateur scout for us without having any history of playing or scouting background? I don’t know if he’s good or not but it certainly sounds like a hire just because his Dad was the GM not because he actually deserves it. Lamoriellos' son is also with him in NY. Seems to be nothing new, when a father is in a position to help out his children. Ultimately, it will be there peers, that will determine if they deserve, to stay or not in the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 5:38 PM, Underdog7 said: I’m not sure if many are aware but one of Vancouvers Amateur Scouts named Patrik Jonsson passed away of cancer a few months back at only 51 years old. He was a European based scout for us and had watched Hoglander since Nils was 15 and was a big reason we drafted him. Not only was it a loss of a family man and a good man. But for the organization it was a big loss and we know how important scouting is for every aspect of the teams play and outcome. Perhaps we should really look into finding another Swedish/European Amateur Scout. Any ideas??? Markus Naslund? Mats Sundin? Daniel Alfredsson? At the very least, keep Benning’s white board on all prospects and teams. He obviously knew what he was doing. Look at the team under a new coach… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 6:18 PM, PunjabiCanucks said: Can we get Judd Brackett back? Tell him we’re sorry and he can make all the picks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Me_ said: At the very least, keep Benning’s white board on all prospects and teams. He obviously knew what he was doing. Look at the team under a new coach… Or the new guy can use a spreadsheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Or the new guy can use a spreadsheet. Nothing like a whiteboard for everyone in the room to see. There’s something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, Me_ said: Nothing like a whiteboard for everyone in the room to see. There’s something about it. It’s inefficient and 1995’ish?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, wallstreetamigo said: It’s inefficient and 1995’ish?? That’s not how it works. It’s like a game of chess on a real board compared to a digital screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Me_ said: That’s not how it works. It’s like a game of chess on a real board compared to a digital screen. Trust me, no it’s not. It’s inefficient, not at all a good use of a GM’s time or resources, and quite frankly helps explain how he ran out of time so often on actually getting things done. I run meetings all the time. If I showed up with that I would be laughed out if the room. Edited December 14, 2021 by wallstreetamigo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Trust me, no it’s not. It’s inefficient, not at all a good use of a GM’s time or resources, and quite frankly helps explain how he ran out of time so often on actually getting things done. I run meetings all the time. If I showed up with that I would be laughed out if the room. You don’t show up with a white board good lord. Hell is that… Pretty much all of your favorite TV shows start on white boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Me_ said: You don’t show up with a white board good lord. Hell is that… Pretty much all of your favorite TV shows start on white boards. But they don’t stay there for 8 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Me_ said: You don’t show up with a white board good lord. Hell is that… Pretty much all of your favorite TV shows start on white boards. Benning’s “wall” is widely ridiculed in the hockey world btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Hopefully we hire more than one. I think the current Canucks scouting department should be expanded. (The Leafs, for example, probably have six or seven more scouts than Vancouver.) But certainly another scout should be hired to replace Jonsson (RIP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 7:01 PM, Underdog7 said: I heard Matt Benning turned down signing with the Canucks a few seasons ago On 12/11/2021 at 5:19 PM, N7Nucks said: If that were true I feel like he woulda signed Matt Benning when he was a free agent. But I dunno, I feel like ownership would have axed the idea of signing his son if it were just to give family a job. I believe I remember reading that Jim and/or Matt didn’t want to deal with the perception of nepotism so they never got anywhere close to signing a contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Sean Monahan said: I believe I remember reading that Jim and/or Matt didn’t want to deal with the perception of nepotism so they never got anywhere close to signing a contract. That sucks, cause I genuinely wanted Benning to sign Benning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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