ForzaTikare Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) There is rumors in Sweden that PAtrik Allvin (AGM of the Pens) is a GM Candidate for the Canucks, especially as Rutherford worked with him earlier and has alot of good things to say about him.. What do we think about this? A new first time GM or go for a veteran? From Swedish newspaper The big cleaning continues in the Vancouver Canucks and now everyone is waiting for who the new hockey boss Jim Rutherford will appoint as his general manager. A new name appeared in the TV magazine Hockey Night in Canada last night, Swedish time. "Patrik Allvin can be a dark horse, as he worked with Rutherford in the Pittsburgh Penguins," speculated hockey insider Elliotte Friedman. SportExpressen has been in contact with Allvin, who responds as follows: - It is very flattering to hear. Unfortunately, I have no other comment. Gunnar Nordström Allvin is the assistant general manager of the Pittsburgh Penguins under Ron Hextall and hockey president Brian Burke. The 47-year-old Allvin is considered a future general manager in the NHL and a sign of what confidence he has in Penguin's owners (Mario Lemieux and Ron Burkle) is that the Swede had to jump in as acting GMi club when Rutherford suddenly announced in January this year that he chose to quit his job. Pittsburgh later added Hextall, but Patrik Allvin remains in the Penguins' management team. He started his career in the club as a scout in Sweden in 2006 and has been living with his family in the USA for several years. Can be the first Swede Should he get the job as Vancouver's Canucks new general manager, he will be the first Swede in such a high position of power in an NHL club. In Pittsburgh, he has been responsible for a number of different parts of the business, such as player development and a review of the Wilkes Barrie / Scranton Penguins farm team in the AHL. That a Swede would become Jim Benning's replacement in Vancouver would be appropriate, as the Canucks have been a club full of Swedish players over the years since the 80's. The list can be made long: Lars Lindgren, Lars Zetterström, Thomas Gradin, Lars Molin, Robert Nordmark, Roland Player Name, Per-Olov Brasar, Patrik Sundström, Anders Eldebrink, Mattias Öhlund, Markus Näslund, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin, Alexander Edler, Jacob Markström and the current trio Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Elias Pettersson and Nils Höglander. When Jim Benning was fired last Sunday, his assistant hockey manager John Weisbrod was also pushed. out. Since Jim Rutherford joined in the middle of this week as President of Hockey Operations, Chris Gear and Jonathan Wall have been fired from their positions in the club management. Strong team effort Pittsburgh defeated the Anaheim Ducks 1-0 tonight after a goal by Brock McGinn. The match's liar was Penguins goalkeeper Casey DeSmith, who kept a clean sheet after saving 33 shots. This was Pittsburgh's fourth straight victory and the team now parks in the first wildcard spot in the NHL's Eastern Conference. Patrik Allvins says this about the team's fine form right now: - I think we play well as a team. Sid (Sidney Crosby) has had a few matches and got started after a long absence. Our goalkeeping game has also been good. Edited December 12, 2021 by ForzaTikare 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boest-er Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 With POHO and coach being someone as experienced as Jim and BB, I would take any promising less then experienced GM. Since they would hopefully bring in brand new ideas and have the experience from above and below to guide them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, ForzaTikare said: There is rumors in Sweden that PAtrik Allvin (AGM of the Pens) is a GM Candidate for the Canucks, especially as Rutherford worked with him earlier and has alot of good things to say about him.. What do we think about this? A new first time GM or go for a veteran? I think one of the Canucks best assets is our connections with Sweden, so strengthening that is fine by me. It also sounds like he's responsible for some good drafting. With JR as PHO it makes a lot of sense and we can widen the search for GMs to good candidates that can grow into the job a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Vancouver Vikings? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Does Allvin have a good drafting record or involved heavily with contracts etc? Penguins haven't had many high picks as they went all in all the time with Rutherford as GM, but being Swedish and knowing the Sedins will likely be co President's after Rutherford retires...this seems plausible. Hope we look at some Carolina AGM's as well as the Tampa organization! They seem to find guys who can contribute at the NHL no matter where they draft...we need that! Lots of potential candidates, but how many teams will allow those candidates to interview mid season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Adding to the strong Swedish connection can only help with drafting and signing high profile Swedish players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Drive-By Body Pierce said: Adding to the strong Swedish connection can only help with drafting and signing high profile Swedish players. Did the Pens ever attract any notable Swedes or other nationalities from Europe because of Allvin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghostsof1915 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 ALLVIN!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 If they're going to bring in an inexperienced GM, it might as well be Ryan Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Canuckster86 said: Does Allvin have a good drafting record or involved heavily with contracts etc? Penguins haven't had many high picks as they went all in all the time with Rutherford as GM, but being Swedish and knowing the Sedins will likely be co President's after Rutherford retires...this seems plausible. Hope we look at some Carolina AGM's as well as the Tampa organization! They seem to find guys who can contribute at the NHL no matter where they draft...we need that! Lots of potential candidates, but how many teams will allow those candidates to interview mid season? He has a serious background in scouting for Montreal and Pitts. Euro scout, head of Euro scouting and more recently, head of amateur scouting. https://www.eliteprospects.com/staff/2535/patrik-allvin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, stawns said: If they're going to bring in an inexperienced GM, it might as well be Ryan Johnson Naah I rather they diversify the upper management and have different ideas. Ryan johnson was part of the old regime, we should aim for someone external but Johnson can still be part of the management group giving ideas. Thats how a strong organization runs, having different ideas and trying to reach a consensus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Probably on par with some of the other options we're reportedly looking at. Swedish ties don't hurt. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Canuckster86 said: Did the Pens ever attract any notable Swedes or other nationalities from Europe because of Allvin? Do they have the Sedins or the long list of prominent Swedish alumni as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, DefCon1 said: Naah I rather they diversify the upper management and have different ideas. Ryan johnson was part of the old regime, we should aim for someone external but Johnson can still be part of the management group giving ideas. Thats how a strong organization runs, having different ideas and trying to reach a consensus. RJ is considered to be a big part of the new class of GM's coming into the league. Who cares if he was a Benning hire? It doesn't mean he's not a good candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I'm kind of 'meh' about it. For me, it's Chris MacFarland. Anyone else from Sweden, Finland, or Antarctica can &^@# off. 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Patel Bure said: I'm kind of 'meh' about it. For me, it's Chris MacFarland. Anyone else from Sweden, Finland, or Antarctica can &^@# off. Why's that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, stawns said: Why's that? I want someone that is currently in the NHL, has a strong familiarity with the current NHL landscape, and is working alongside a current highly successful NHL GM here in North America. That's why I want MacFarland.........or maybe even Carolina's AssGM 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeltaSwede Posted December 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Patel Bure said: I want someone that is currently in the NHL, has a strong familiarity with the current NHL landscape, and is working alongside a current highly successful NHL GM here in North America. That's why I want MacFarland.........or maybe even Carolina's AssGM Been with the Pens organization since 2006 so I don't think he's unfamiliar with the NHL. As a Canucks fan who happens to be Swedish, this would be exciting. Jarmo is doing well in Columbus. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Not opposed. I think there are stronger candidates but he's a scout by nature. Get him a capologist and an analytical assistant GM and might be a good front office there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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