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13 minutes ago, stawns said:

as many as is necessary.  why wouldnt you get boosters as needed after getting two shots?

 

I don't know a single person saying "yeah, I'm good with two, thanks."

There are mis information out there that getting the booster reduce effectiveness or it does nothing so why risk getting the side effects. 

 

Heard this from my parent who is very against getting the booster after getting the two doses cause she heard some doctors on youtube saying so. That and holding out hope for the modified booster.

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39 minutes ago, Mossberg said:

How many boosters are you gonna get?  I got 2 shots that is it for me. Most people I know too are done too

I'm glad I don't know as many idiots as you do.  Common sense would suggest new variants might require an update to the vaccine, same as the flu shot.

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It's not actually a vaccine, which has been misleading from the beginning. It's a transfection, which is a partial inactivated small portion of the spike protein. The transfection doesn't prevent you from getting infected, or infecting others. It will reduce your risk of being hospitalized, but not reduce the risk to others. For this reason, the ridiculous vax passport idea won't age well. It laymen terms "It's a really leaky vaccine".

There is very little evidence for a third booster one way or the other. Humans are literally the guinea pig right now. However, there is some early emerging evidence that males under 30 have increased risk of myocarditis jumping from 5%-10% on 3rd booster. There needs to be more data to be conclusive. The safest thing to do, is do your own research, and wait till there is more data available.

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15 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

It's not actually a vaccine, which has been misleading from the beginning. It's a transfection, which is a partial inactivated small portion of the spike protein. The transfection doesn't prevent you from getting infected, or infecting others. It will reduce your risk of being hospitalized, but not reduce the risk to others. For this reason, the ridiculous vax passport idea won't age well. It laymen terms "It's a really leaky vaccine".

There is very little evidence for a third booster one way or the other. Humans are literally the guinea pig right now. However, there is some early emerging evidence that males under 30 have increased risk of myocarditis jumping from 5%-10% on 3rd booster. There needs to be more data to be conclusive. The safest thing to do, is do your own research, and wait till there is more data available.


That is actually the worst thing to do. Follow the experts and scientists who have spent decades studying diseases. They won’t be perfect considering it’s something brand new to everyone as of 2019, but they’re going to do the best job they can to give us information. Why should I trust my own research when I can rely on those who’ve already done it for most of their lives? Do I really believe I can become a better scientist then they are in hours, days or months of research when they’ve had years? I’m definitely no better expert than they are and 99% of people in the world are in the same category as I am.

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55 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

Fixed that for you.  Locally, the anti-vaxxers are the problem - but globally, the real issue is vaccine inequity, and in some cases, hoarding of vaccines to provide boosters instead of allowing other countries to get the necessary supplies to provide the two doses to their people.  Mutated versions will continue to be generated in populations with low vaccination rates, and globally that corresponds to third-world countries and countries that haven't been able to procure the vaccines due to other countries undercutting them.

You didn't fix anything, you just pointed out another major issue. No argument that is a massive problem. When it comes to global spread though, developing or 3rd world counties are much less likely be engaging in travel and spreading the virus. Yes, we do need to be doing a much better job at spreading the vaccine around. But poor countries where people are unable to obtain the vaccine are completely different then entitle people in developed countries who have access to it.

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59 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

Fixed that for you.  Locally, the anti-vaxxers are the problem - but globally, the real issue is vaccine inequity, and in some cases, hoarding of vaccines to provide boosters instead of allowing other countries to get the necessary supplies to provide the two doses to their people.  Mutated versions will continue to be generated in populations with low vaccination rates, and globally that corresponds to third-world countries and countries that haven't been able to procure the vaccines due to other countries undercutting them.

THIS! 

 

If one were to track where these variants are originating one would notice these are also 2nd and 3rd world countries without an adequate supply and roll out of vaccines.   This is why it is so important for 1st world countries to send vaccines to the ones who cannot get it.  

 

Say what you will about how our roll out and health professionals have handled this pandemic at least we all have the means to be vaccinated and have been already.  

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1 hour ago, JM_ said:

for me it will be AZ, then Moderna and I guess maybe Pfizer? :lol: I'm getting the cocktail 

That's exactly, what I've had. 
2 shots AZ and the Moderna 2 days ago...

 

Why are folks so concerned about getting a flipping jab?

 

Nobody stops going on holiday if they need a yellow fever shot..

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5 hours ago, -DLC- said:

So this isn't looking great (might be more updates that I don't know about):

 

Flames - Elias Lindholm, Noah Hanifin, Milan Lucic and Sean Monahan, Andrew Mangiapane, Brad Richardson, Adam Ruzicka, Chris Tanev and Nikita Zadorov. The Flames did not identify the staff member joining them.

Hurricanes - Sebastian Aho, Seth Jarvis and a staffer entered the protocol Monday and Ian Cole, Steven Lorentz, Jordan Staal and Andrei Svechnikov tested positive for COVID-19 on Tuesday, the team announced.

Islanders - Mathew Barzal

Avalanche - Devon Toews

Oilers - Ryan McLeod, Dave Tippett

Bruins - FaceLicker Brad

Canucks - Luke Schenn, Juho Lammikko, Brad Hunt and Tucker Poolman

you can now also add, Rasmus Andersson, Byron Froese, Johnny Gaudreau, Erik Gudbranson, Trevor Lewis, Jacob Markstrom and Tyler Pitlick, and head coach Darryl Sutter, associate coach Kirk Muller and assistant Ryan Huska for Calgary. 

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I’m vaccinated but get both sides of the vaccine issue.  On one hand if you are healthy and relatively young the odds of a poor outcome are small.  I was initially very excited about the vaccines and their ability to protect those that are most vulnerable and ultimately stop the spread of covid.  In order for western society to function normally we need covid hospitals.  Ideally then our regular healthcare system can care for everyone else.  Keep up the booster program for the most vulnerable or those that interact most often with those groups.  The rest of us need to keep on living in the moment and spend time with each other.  I feel for the anxious and folks struggling out there humans aren’t meant to isolate the way we have.

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44 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said:

It's not actually a vaccine, which has been misleading from the beginning. It's a transfection, which is a partial inactivated small portion of the spike protein. The transfection doesn't prevent you from getting infected, or infecting others. It will reduce your risk of being hospitalized, but not reduce the risk to others. For this reason, the ridiculous vax passport idea won't age well. It laymen terms "It's a really leaky vaccine".

There is very little evidence for a third booster one way or the other. Humans are literally the guinea pig right now. However, there is some early emerging evidence that males under 30 have increased risk of myocarditis jumping from 5%-10% on 3rd booster. There needs to be more data to be conclusive. The safest thing to do, is do your own research, and wait till there is more data available.

Straight from the moron handbook

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