Rabbit Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 He is Rutherford's target. Welcome to Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Just gonna trust Jimmy on this one. Mostly a pro scout and became a trusted advisor on transactions and signings under JR in PITS. We needed help in the pro-scouting department so I like this. JR got the guy he wanted. Edited December 15, 2021 by Outsiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Not gonna leave it up to the new GM; already said he was bringing this guy on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ken kaniff Posted December 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2021 If they’re going to go with a rookie GM this is how you do it. Established President. Established Coach. Guys who have been in the NHL for a while and have a proven track record to support the rookie GM. Not whatever the hell we were doing the last 8 years with a rookie GM, Coaches, President. The last 8 years were a total fail because Aqua didn’t set anyone up for success 4 4 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrchief Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 We're definitely lacking in pro-scouting, I expect great things. Now I think need an amateur scout and analytics AGMs since Rutherford wants 3 AGMs apparently. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, Devron44 said: He said in his pressor that he was hiring an assistant he can trust. It’s only official now. Yeah, I heard about it then. I suppose Rutherford is sort of the GM for now and he'll take on that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Yeah, I heard about it then. I suppose Rutherford is sort of the GM for now and he'll take on that role. Yup. I think just surrounding himself with good people until the find the right GM. I like the approach as they are trying to hire the most important person in the organization. It’s gotta be done right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Dude was a life-long Pens guys even before Rutherford. Began as a pro scout for the Pens from 2007-2010. He was Director of Scouting with the Pens from 2010-2019. He was Director of Player Personnel for the Pens from 2019-2021. Pretty decent credentials for entry into an AGM role. Was with the Pens during their last 3 cups in some capacity. So he would have been heavily involved in scouting Rust, Bluger, Maatta, Jarry, Kapanen, Guentzel... https://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007475.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goal:thecup Posted December 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2021 He's gonna hire a half dozen AGMs and make them bag skate. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Kind of weird to have an assistant GM before a GM, haha. 18 minutes ago, Jaimito said: Since JR is the interim GM, he needs people he can trust and work with. Going with someone he knows already helps. What this says to me is JR wants to hire a GM in the summer (possibly some one currently employed) but needs some help doing day to day stuff in the mean time Clancy will probably be the guy sending players to /from Abby etc but Jim will make trades and other major decisions 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhahoodlum Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I'm hoping the Canucks actually have a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, JM_ said: So he would have been heavily involved in scouting Rust, Bluger, Maatta, Jarry, Kapanen, Guentzel... https://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007475.html that would be amateur scouting for the most part, not pro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Really like the pro scouting background. From what I understand, Rutherford would like a GM and then 3 A/GMs below the GM. President - Rutherford GM - ? A/GM - Clancey A/GM - ? A/GM - ? Smyl is a Special Advisor and Johnson is the GM of Abbotsford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, tas said: that would be amateur scouting for the most part, not pro. ah thanks misunderstood that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Pro scouting is what you need to make trades. Just sayin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Tom’s bro? But how is he at writing action novels is the real question? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted December 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just now, Maniwaki Canuck said: Pro scouting is what you need to make trades. Just sayin. pfft. You can still make them. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Derek Clancey was presumably a part of many of the trades involving pro players that the Penguins made during Rutherford's tenure. I presume that doesn't include Marino since I'm pretty sure he was still in College when they acquired him. A bit of a mixed bag of trades: Zucker hasn't really panned out nor did Galchenyuk (who was part of their package to acquire Zucker), although Zucker is still a decent top-9 forward (but overpaid). Rodrigues was a decent pick up although they did trade him to TOR in the Kapanen trade before re-signing him. Pettersson and Matheson (notwithstanding how much Canucks fans might hate him) were decent acquisitions though. There many more trades but those are the only guys who are still with the team. Many other players were acquired and then let go. It will be interesting to see if the Canucks will be as active in the trade market. Rutherford's group made a few large deals but also many smaller ones so we could see a fair bit movement in the supporting players (including in Abbotsford) if the Rutherford's (and now Clancey's) history with the Penguins provide any indication of what we could expect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On pace to sign malkin as a "vet" to help us get over the top next year? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Tom’s bro? But how is he at writing action novels is the real question? only if he spells his name differently for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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