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14 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

I thought I had heard of more major surgeries getting delayed. There was a dude on the news that was crying about his throat cancer scheduling, it was heart breaking. 

If it's just shoulders, then I agree. 

It’s all surgeries, just like it always has, unless it’s an immediate life threatening issue, like your lungs shutting down because of covid. 

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3 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

I agree.  Enough is enough with our government not stepping up over the last 2-3 years and upgrading hospitals and healthcare.  
Billions of dollars that could have been put toward fast tracking the solutions to these problems.   
Instead they wasted a bunch of our money keeping us home and ruining business. 
 

FYI.   All surgeries were backed up and on waiting lists long before covid.  
Our heathcare system is and was a joke. 
It’s ridiculous they haven’t done anything to improve it, even when we have the need for it staring them in their big dumb faces. 
 

We shouldn’t have to pick and chose who lives and dies, but you people can’t get that through your skulls.  

We all deserve better, but so many people have decided to blame each other and fight their neighbors instead of the ones denying us of a proper healthcare system.    

 

The antivaxxers are trying to make that choice by voluntarily becoming walking biohazards.  Let them do their own research at home and enjoy some horsey paste.  I would rather let people get their shoulder surgeries and allow these idiots to face the consequences for their stupidity.

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2 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

The antivaxxers are trying to make that choice by voluntarily becoming walking biohazards.  Let them do their own research at home and enjoy some horsey paste.  I would rather let people get their shoulder surgeries and allow these idiots to face the consequences for their stupidity.

Get over yourself dude.  
We are having a current outbreak at my shop.  
Today we had 8 people out of 45 test positive on rapid tests.  
7 of the 8 were vaccinated and two of them had the worst symptoms.  
The one unvaxed guy had zero symptoms.  
 

If you’d rather have someone get a non life threatening surgery, then allow someone else to die…….    That says a lot more about you than anyone else.    Gross

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20 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

I agree.  Enough is enough with our government not stepping up over the last 2-3 years and upgrading hospitals and healthcare.  
Billions of dollars that could have been put toward fast tracking the solutions to these problems.   
Instead they wasted a bunch of our money keeping us home and ruining business. 
 

FYI.   All surgeries were backed up and on waiting lists long before covid.  
Our heathcare system is and was a joke. 
It’s ridiculous they haven’t done anything to improve it, even when we have the need for it staring them in their big dumb faces. 
 

We shouldn’t have to pick and chose who lives and dies, but you people can’t get that through your skulls.  

We all deserve better, but so many people have decided to blame each other and fight their neighbors instead of the ones denying us of a proper healthcare system.    

 

But...but...that's socialism. 

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3 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

Boy do I have an endless supply of videos for you. Thousands of videos of antivaxxers and anti maskers behaving like children. People being assaulted or even killed for trying to enforce restrictions. Others verbally and physically abusing employees and health care workers just trying to do their jobs. Wait till you see the school board meetings. Lots of us are going to burn in hell I suppose. Then we have the constant barrage death threats towards health care workers and politicians. 

 

I see a lot of gaslighting going on these days about antivaxxers but I for one am not going to forget about this any time soon. 

I’m not interested in your YouTube videos thanks.  
I’m also not defending antivaxers.   
Like I’ve said a million times now, antivaxers are jackasses.  

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4 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

Do I need to explain the irony of a mostly right wing leaning group arguing that we should be funding health care better? 

I don’t remember them doing that.   
I remember them cutting healthcare almost every time they got a chance.  
 

I get the irony.  The rights are so exhausting most the time i just usually ignore them.  
 

Sorry if I ruined your joke.   Lol

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6 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

I don’t remember them doing that.   
I remember them cutting healthcare almost every time they got a chance.  
 

I get the irony.  The rights are so exhausting most the time i just usually ignore them.  
 

Sorry if I ruined your joke.   Lol

It's the argument de jour I'm seeing from the antivax/sympathetic community. 

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4 hours ago, D.B Cooper said:

That’s disgusting and shame on you for feeling like you get to choose who gets to live or die.   

I don't choose to make poor life decisions and then expect everyone else to clean up a mess of my own making.

 

That's all there is to it.

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10 hours ago, D.B Cooper said:

Get over yourself dude.  
We are having a current outbreak at my shop.  
Today we had 8 people out of 45 test positive on rapid tests.  
7 of the 8 were vaccinated and two of them had the worst symptoms.  
The one unvaxed guy had zero symptoms.  
 

If you’d rather have someone get a non life threatening surgery, then allow someone else to die…….    That says a lot more about you than anyone else.    Gross

How come antivaxxers so often have anecdotal stories to contribute that are always the outliers?

Here are the facts:

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10 hours ago, D.B Cooper said:

It’s all surgeries, just like it always has, unless it’s an immediate life threatening issue, like your lungs shutting down because of covid. 

So I am right? covid is causing delays on cancer surgeries. Yet another guy on tv this morn. This one talking about cancer in his lungs, a big lump. 

 

I get you are saying that the health care system was always strained. What I am saying is the unvaxxed are adding to the delays.....worse than ' like it always has'

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12 hours ago, D.B Cooper said:

I personally have no problem putting off my shoulder surgery a while so some dumb a holes don’t have to die.  
Does it ruin my life day to day.  
Yeah. 
Does it end my life?   Nope.  
It’s not like our dog pooh healthcare system doesn’t have us all waiting for months on end anyway……..

I'm assuming you'd think the US system was better, at least in terms of wait times. 

 

So how do you explain the surgical backlog due to covid in the US? https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/healthcare-systems-and-services/our-insights/cutting-through-the-covid-19-surgical-backlog

 

I see you're trying hard to defend peoples rights, which is great, but it feels like you have to ignore the real damage being done by anti-vaxxers to do it. 

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14 hours ago, stawns said:

There's a scene in "Platoon",  during the big battle, where the platoon coward "O'Neill" is in a foxhole as the viet Cong infiltrate their line.  Rather than fight, he pulls his dead comrade over himself so the VC can't see him.  When the battle is over, he emerges as a "survivor", even though he did nothing to help in the battle. 

 

Anti vaxxers are O'Neill

50 years from now:

 

"When covid came grandpa, what did you do?"

 

"I did nothing son. Nothing." 

 

How heroic. 

 

I see a lot of support from folks that typically also complain about lefty entitlements. But being anti-vax is the most entitled stance I think I've ever seen. 

 

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12 hours ago, D.B Cooper said:

Get over yourself dude.  
We are having a current outbreak at my shop.  
Today we had 8 people out of 45 test positive on rapid tests.  
7 of the 8 were vaccinated and two of them had the worst symptoms.  
The one unvaxed guy had zero symptoms.  

 

If you’d rather have someone get a non life threatening surgery, then allow someone else to die…….    That says a lot more about you than anyone else.    Gross

So your isolated cases at your shop trumps the worldwide data that has been collected over and over again?

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