[Waivers] William Lagesson, Gemel Smith

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[Devron]

Pick up Gemel!

[Coconuts]

Smith's a center, but he hasn't really played at the NHL level a whole lot the last few seasons. Only eight games over the last two years. Hasn't seen much NHL time at all since being claimed by Boston. 

 

Don't really see him moving the needle. 

[D-Money]

Larsson looked interesting in the past. But if he can't even keep a spot on Edmonton's defense, then hard pass.

[Rabbit]

Hard pass

[Phil_314]

If Burroughs/ Hunt weren't doing alright on the back end, and Lammikko doing pretty well up front, I would have been down.  At this point we don't really need them.

[Spoosh]

28 minutes ago, D-Money said:

Larsson looked interesting in the past. But if he can't even keep a spot on Edmonton's defense, then hard pass.

William Lagesson, not Adam Larsson. 

[King Heffy]

Lagesson can't even crack an AHL quality blueline.  Zero interest.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

1 hour ago, Coconuts said:

Smith's a center, but he hasn't really played at the NHL level a whole lot the last few seasons. Only eight games over the last two years. Hasn't seen much NHL time at all since being claimed by Boston. 

 

Don't really see him moving the needle. 

Rather see a guy like Will Lockwood get some games in with the big club than claim Gemel Smith and put him into the lineup ahead of our Abby guys.

 

Also, don’t really need an undersized LH centre.
 

Not that he’s bad. Smith offers some limited ceiling offence, high workrate, good energy and speed, plays a hard-nosed game for his size, and is fairly neutral defensively.

 

But like you say, probably doesn’t move the needle all that much.

 

I’d definitely consider a claim if we were short on bodies, but the team is fairly healthy right now (fingers crossed that remains the case).

[Ghostsof1915]

What's going on with Klefblom btw?

His shoulder won't heal?

Is he done? 

Sounds like he's sidelined until next season after surgery? 

[Coconuts]

22 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Rather see a guy like Will Lockwood get some games in with the big club than claim Gemel Smith and put him into the lineup ahead of our Abby guys.

 

Also, don’t really need an undersized LH centre.
 

Not that he’s bad. Smith offers some limited ceiling offence, high workrate, good energy and speed, plays a hard-nosed game for his size, and is fairly neutral defensively.

 

But like you say, probably doesn’t move the needle all that much.

 

I’d definitely consider a claim if we were short on bodies, but the team is fairly healthy right now (fingers crossed that remains the case).

That on it's own is something to consider. Bringing in players from the outside and putting ahead of our own prospects has hurt us over the last few seasons. We lost Gadjovich because Green and/or Benning were enamoured with Chiasson. And that's not Chiasson's fault, it is what it is. And didn't Jasek head overseas because he didn't feel he was getting an NHL opportunity despite doing everything that was asked of him? 

 

At some point new management and whoever ends up being our long-term head coach needs to focus on integrating the guys we've already got in the system into the roster. Boudreau hasn't been here long so I'm not harping on him, but it's something we'll need to see. 

 

We need to play prospects, see what guys can do. Give them opportunities to show their stuff when guys go down. As a GM you've got to consider players on waivers, as a fan waivers can be interesting because we love to talk about this and that. But I'm tired of "ooo, shiny, let's grab him" when it comes to waivers when we've got prospects we could try and insert. 

 

I understand there's a lot to consider when it comes to roster moves and who goes up/down, but I wish we'd lean a little more towards favouring internal options over waivers/ufa's. 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Coconuts

[Bruce Boudreau]

13 hours ago, Devron said:

Pick up Gemel!

Damn a brother lost his spot in black history month on the heels of MLK day and Willie  O'Ree having his jersey retired in Boston. Did they really have to do him like that?

 

Would be a great PR move for the Canucks to pick him up while they have some Covid protocols to sort through. 

 

They need more women and people with disabilities to be given a fair chance along with the LQBTQIA and the BIPOC the NHL needs to become as diverse as its fans and needs fresh perspectives if they want to grow the game long term.

 

The Canucks had some colorful minorities pun intended in their modern history including Anson Carter, Kevin Weekes, Donald Brashear, Gino Odjick and Nathan Lafayette to name a few.

 

As of now the only ethnic minority is Travis Hamonic who is a native.  They need more representation in a supposed top multicultural city like Vancouver.

 

 

 

[86Viking]

5 hours ago, Chip Kelly said:

Damn a brother lost his spot in black history month on the heels of MLK day and Willie  O'Ree having his jersey retired in Boston. Did they really have to do him like that?

 

 

It's actually a promotion I think...they are calling him up from the AHL to play in the NHL if he clears no??

[N4ZZY]

9 hours ago, Chip Kelly said:

Damn a brother lost his spot in black history month on the heels of MLK day and Willie  O'Ree having his jersey retired in Boston. Did they really have to do him like that?

 

Would be a great PR move for the Canucks to pick him up while they have some Covid protocols to sort through. 

 

They need more women and people with disabilities to be given a fair chance along with the LQBTQIA and the BIPOC the NHL needs to become as diverse as its fans and needs fresh perspectives if they want to grow the game long term.

 

The Canucks had some colorful minorities pun intended in their modern history including Anson Carter, Kevin Weekes, Donald Brashear, Gino Odjick and Nathan Lafayette to name a few.

 

As of now the only ethnic minority is Travis Hamonic who is a native.  They need more representation in a supposed top multicultural city like Vancouver.

 

 

 

L we need more diversity in hockey for sure. I’m surprised not more Asians here in Vancouver play hockey (Chinese, Filipinos, Africans, Middle Eastern, Japanese, Indigenous kids, etc). 

 

There’s a few - like Steve Kariya who was half Japanese. But other than that, there’s not really a ton of BIPOC NHL players that move the needle for their franchises/teams. 

 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

 

[Rick Blight]

5 hours ago, Canuckster86 said:

It's actually a promotion I think...they are calling him up from the AHL to play in the NHL if he clears no??

Recall waivers were eliminated with the 2012 CBA agreement.

 

Re-Entry Waivers

Re-entry waivers, as explained above, were a product of the CBA prior to 2012. They are no longer in effect in the current 2013 CBA. They were written to prevent teams from stashing ringers in the AHL.

[Odd.]

22 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

What's going on with Klefblom btw?

His shoulder won't heal?

Is he done? 

Sounds like he's sidelined until next season after surgery? 

Klef is most likely done unfortunately. He has arthritis and he had surgery that would improve his quality of life, but he’s faced with the dilemma that he may need to retire. Truly unfortunate. 

[250Integra]

11 hours ago, Chip Kelly said:

Damn a brother lost his spot in black history month on the heels of MLK day and Willie  O'Ree having his jersey retired in Boston. Did they really have to do him like that?

 

Would be a great PR move for the Canucks to pick him up while they have some Covid protocols to sort through. 

 

They need more women and people with disabilities to be given a fair chance along with the LQBTQIA and the BIPOC the NHL needs to become as diverse as its fans and needs fresh perspectives if they want to grow the game long term.

 

The Canucks had some colorful minorities pun intended in their modern history including Anson Carter, Kevin Weekes, Donald Brashear, Gino Odjick and Nathan Lafayette to name a few.

 

As of now the only ethnic minority is Travis Hamonic who is a native.  They need more representation in a supposed top multicultural city like Vancouver.

 

 

 

Don't forget Justin Bailey and Jett Woo...

Edited January 19, 2022 by 250Integra

[Coconuts]

11 hours ago, Chip Kelly said:

Damn a brother lost his spot in black history month on the heels of MLK day and Willie  O'Ree having his jersey retired in Boston. Did they really have to do him like that?

 

Would be a great PR move for the Canucks to pick him up while they have some Covid protocols to sort through. 

 

They need more women and people with disabilities to be given a fair chance along with the LQBTQIA and the BIPOC the NHL needs to become as diverse as its fans and needs fresh perspectives if they want to grow the game long term.

 

The Canucks had some colorful minorities pun intended in their modern history including Anson Carter, Kevin Weekes, Donald Brashear, Gino Odjick and Nathan Lafayette to name a few.

 

As of now the only ethnic minority is Travis Hamonic who is a native.  They need more representation in a supposed top multicultural city like Vancouver.

 

 

 

I don't disagree with the sentiment, hockey could use more diversity. But at the same time if an organization doesn't see him as one of their best roster options it is what it is. Smith is going to be 28 this year and as of today he's got 88 career NHL games to his names, he's by no means a regular. Eight games over the last two seasons. Twenty five over the last three. He hasn't carved out much of an NHL career, he's been more of an AHL'er. Hockey's a business, a billion dollar business, teams are going to ice the roster that gives them the best chance to win more often than not. 

 

Maybe he'll stick in Detroit, his fourth organization in three years. 

 

 

[Jayinblack]

13 hours ago, Chip Kelly said:

Damn a brother lost his spot in black history month on the heels of MLK day and Willie  O'Ree having his jersey retired in Boston. Did they really have to do him like that?

 

Would be a great PR move for the Canucks to pick him up while they have some Covid protocols to sort through. 

 

They need more women and people with disabilities to be given a fair chance along with the LQBTQIA and the BIPOC the NHL needs to become as diverse as its fans and needs fresh perspectives if they want to grow the game long term.

 

The Canucks had some colorful minorities pun intended in their modern history including Anson Carter, Kevin Weekes, Donald Brashear, Gino Odjick and Nathan Lafayette to name a few.

 

As of now the only ethnic minority is Travis Hamonic who is a native.  They need more representation in a supposed top multicultural city like Vancouver.

 

 

 

I'm looking fwd to Woo being a regular in another season or two