Drakrami Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Pears said: Sure this may be true, but you don’t need size to be gritty. Tyler Motte is the best example. ..? Teams aren't going to say oh $&!# I better have my head up, Tyler Motte's on the ice. Nor will Motte be dropping the gloves. Motte is great, I hate to keep saying this, but we need a gritty checking line like what Tampa Bay had with the Goodrow line. Dickinson was supposed to be a move in that direction that has failed miserably. And when your supposedly gritty 3rd/4th line Highmore gets ragdolled by a 5 feet 9 Torey Krug? Yes there's a problem. Edited January 24, 2022 by Drakrami 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I don’t really believe Bo is more than 6 foot either. I think there is room for smaller players on teams but think we have too many. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The only players on your list contracted beyond this season are Dowling, Hogs, Hughes and Garland. Dowling is on league minimum for one more year, so not really an issue. With that in mind... Hughes for Oleksiak Garland for Boyle Hogs for Bjugstad #plantheparade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Our average height and weight is pretty similar to most other teams in the NHL. Even if it wasn't your solution is to trade Dries, Dowling, Highmore and Hunt? Who would be trading for them and what would they give us? I did some research of my own, a hockey puck is 1" thick so a stack of 84 would be 7 foot tall. If we package all 4 with a 2nd round pick I reckon you might pull it off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kloubek Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 8 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: As Garland, Hoglander, Motte, Highmore have largely shown the past few seasons, its not about the size of the dog that brings success, its the heart and battle of the dog. Size helps, but its not the determining factor. IMO, this team lacks players who can drive play consistently. Other than Miller and Garland, we haven't had enough guys contributing to that. I will take the battle level of these shorter players over players over 6'1'' but have zero brains for the game aka Nick Ritchie, Jake Virtanen, other meat heads with no hockey IQ or questionable effort level. Precisely. The players listed don't play like little men. They are all strong on their feet, have tons of heart, and while they don't tend to come out the winner in an all-out physical battle they still win many battles because they simply outwill the opponent. These guys aren't going to do a lot of damage to opposing players with their forechecks (except perhaps cumulatively) but they aren't a liability in the toughness or grit department at all. And I totally agree with your comment about the Virtanen's of the world. Size is only an advantage if you use it. Sad to think once again what "could have been". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Bo Horvat 6'0, 215 lbs JT Miller 6'1", 218 lbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead73 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I agree, you bigger players with skill and speed to win in this league, and the lame arguments about no skill goons are cop outs to make a point, nobody want knuckle draggers. Where this comes into play is the long post season where the little guys will run out of steam for the most part when push comes to shove with big skilled NHL defense men. Tampa Bay... Hedman 6'6 241lbs Sergachev 6'3 213lbs McDonagh 6'1 215lbs Rutta 6'3 204lbs Cernak 6'3 230lbs Bogosian 6'2 200lbs Foote 6'4 227lbs Sustr 6'7 217lbs Once these guys start leaning on our forwards in a 7 game series... never mind getting to the finals past other teams D cores, it usually doesn't favor the 5'7 170lb guys... It's just physics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 11 hours ago, RolexSub said: I just accounted for 8 players that are under 6ft tall in stature. Here are the following players under 6ft tall under our current lineup: Forwards: Conor Garland: 5'7" 165lbs Nils Hoglander: 5'9" 190lbs Sheldon Dries: 5'9" 185lbs Tyler Motte: 5'10" 192lbs Justin Dowling: 5'10" 181lbs Matthew Highmore: 5'11" 187lbs Defence: Brad Hunt: 5'9" 176lbs Quinn Hughes: 5'10" 170lbs Between the 8 players above we average in 5'9"tall and weighing in at 180lbs only. I am sure some of the players above are smaller and the Canucks just being more generous in their exact height and weight. I know size isn't always everything but only if you play like Brad Marchand can in the NHL to be affective player. I think we need to beef up in size and strength and toughness before the trading deadline. With my list above, I am hoping we trade the following for up size: Sheldon Dries: 5'9" 185lbs Justin Dowling: 5'10" 181lbs Matthew Highmore: 5'11" 187lbs Brad Hunt: 5'9" 176lbs Size will definitely matter during the playoffs as each series you have to grind it out. To be a contender in the future we need to upsize this trading deadline. yeah but we have the widest team, so its OK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 We Are The Smallest Team In The League With 8 Players Under 6 Feet Tall!!! Yeah but boy can they skate through the legs of giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Every team in the NHL is close to the same average height. There are 7 teams that have an average height of 6'2" and everyone else is at 6'1". Vancouver Canucks average height = 6'1" average weight = 196 lbs. Florida Panthers average height = 6'1" average weight = 195 lbs. I never hear that Florida is too small to compete in the playoffs and need to get bigger. https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/nhl/teams-physical-stats/2021-2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 11 hours ago, RolexSub said: I just accounted for 8 players that are under 6ft tall in stature. Here are the following players under 6ft tall under our current lineup: Forwards: Conor Garland: 5'7" 165lbs Nils Hoglander: 5'9" 190lbs Sheldon Dries: 5'9" 185lbs Tyler Motte: 5'10" 192lbs Justin Dowling: 5'10" 181lbs Matthew Highmore: 5'11" 187lbs Defence: Brad Hunt: 5'9" 176lbs Quinn Hughes: 5'10" 170lbs Between the 8 players above we average in 5'9"tall and weighing in at 180lbs only. I am sure some of the players above are smaller and the Canucks just being more generous in their exact height and weight. I know size isn't always everything but only if you play like Brad Marchand can in the NHL to be affective player. I think we need to beef up in size and strength and toughness before the trading deadline. With my list above, I am hoping we trade the following for up size: Sheldon Dries: 5'9" 185lbs Justin Dowling: 5'10" 181lbs Matthew Highmore: 5'11" 187lbs Brad Hunt: 5'9" 176lbs Size will definitely matter during the playoffs as each series you have to grind it out. To be a contender in the future we need to upsize this trading deadline. Hence, team Charmin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Imo, a roster paired with the proper staff can, mitigate alot of the weaknesses a roster may have, in terms of size or talent. Constantly, changing a roster trend, is a fools game and better for a team to keep drafting BPA and make up for it with systems, off the ice - through preparation & etc - cause the teams that makes the playoffs, are always changing every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 11 hours ago, -DLC- said: Did you add in Myers? Or EP He is 6-2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Canucklehead73 said: Once these guys start leaning on our forwards in a 7 game series... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Rick Blight said: Every team in the NHL is close to the same average height. There are 7 teams that have an average height of 6'2" and everyone else is at 6'1". Vancouver Canucks average height = 6'1" average weight = 196 lbs. Florida Panthers average height = 6'1" average weight = 195 lbs. I never hear that Florida is too small to compete in the playoffs and need to get bigger. https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/nhl/teams-physical-stats/2021-2022 I am not huge fan of averages. If Hunt, Hughes, Garland, Petey, and Hogz are on the ice it's small. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Canucklehead73 said: I agree, you bigger players with skill and speed to win in this league, and the lame arguments about no skill goons are cop outs to make a point, nobody want knuckle draggers. Where this comes into play is the long post season where the little guys will run out of steam for the most part when push comes to shove with big skilled NHL defense men. Tampa Bay... Hedman 6'6 241lbs Sergachev 6'3 213lbs McDonagh 6'1 215lbs Rutta 6'3 204lbs Cernak 6'3 230lbs Bogosian 6'2 200lbs Foote 6'4 227lbs Sustr 6'7 217lbs Once these guys start leaning on our forwards in a 7 game series... never mind getting to the finals past other teams D cores, it usually doesn't favor the 5'7 170lb guys... It's just physics Yea that is the challenge. Regular season is fine, playoffs you need war horses and the Canucks aren't tested but I'd bet on Hedman vs Garland in a 7 game series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Blow it up. Sign Willi Plett, Uwe Krupp and John Scott ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Rick Blight said: Every team in the NHL is close to the same average height. There are 7 teams that have an average height of 6'2" and everyone else is at 6'1". Vancouver Canucks average height = 6'1" average weight = 196 lbs. Florida Panthers average height = 6'1" average weight = 195 lbs. I never hear that Florida is too small to compete in the playoffs and need to get bigger. https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/nhl/teams-physical-stats/2021-2022 We average 6'1" probably with a big boost from Myer's 6'8" frame. But 1/3 of our line up every game in game out is we have smaller guys playing. If all you guys are so keen on keeping the same small line ups and continue to lose and not make a change and not noticing our team is on the smaller scale in the NHL its ok then I have nothing to say here in making suggestions in finding a potential route cause of losing. The team was built small from the Benning Era and I guess you guys are missing him lots still lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Canucklehead73 said: I agree, you bigger players with skill and speed to win in this league, and the lame arguments about no skill goons are cop outs to make a point, nobody want knuckle draggers. Where this comes into play is the long post season where the little guys will run out of steam for the most part when push comes to shove with big skilled NHL defense men. Tampa Bay... Hedman 6'6 241lbs Sergachev 6'3 213lbs McDonagh 6'1 215lbs Rutta 6'3 204lbs Cernak 6'3 230lbs Bogosian 6'2 200lbs Foote 6'4 227lbs Sustr 6'7 217lbs Once these guys start leaning on our forwards in a 7 game series... never mind getting to the finals past other teams D cores, it usually doesn't favor the 5'7 170lb guys... It's just physics That is why they are Stanley Cup winners and we are not. Look at the huge difference in size compared to our team lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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