J.I.A.H.N Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Here are all the ranked Right Hand Dman + Our Own Jack Rathbone for context The Hockey Writers Jan. 11, 2022 Mid season Top 100 players not in the NHL (Drafted) Helge Grans............................90 RHD 19 years old 6'3" 206 2020 2nd round 35OA LA Kings Justin Barrons.........................81 RHD 20 years old 6'2" 195 2020 1st round 25OA Colorado Victor Soderstrom...................71 RHD 20 years old 6'0" 182 2019 1st round 11 OA Arizona Jacob Docker-Bernard............66 RHD 21 years old 6'0" 187 2018 1st round 26 OA Ottawa Jack Rathbone.......................60 LHD 22 years old 5'11" 190 2017 4th round 95 OA Vancouver Calen Addison.........................45 RHD 21 years old 5'10" 178 2018 2nd round 53 OA Minnesota Braden Schneider....................41 RHD 19 years old 6'2" 202 2020 1st round 19 OA NYRangers Brandt Clarke...........................13 RHD 18 years old 6'2" 185 2021 1st round 8 OA LA Kings Here is Drive4Five October, 2021 Preseason Rankings Top 100 players not in the NHL (Drafted) Brock Faber..............................89 RHD 19 years old 6'0" 190 2020 2nd round 45 LA Kings Josh Brook...............................81 RHD 22 years old 6'2" 185 2017 2nd round 56 Montreal Justin Barrons..........................75 Braden Schneider.....................69 Jacob Docker-Bernard............. 66 Jack Rathbone........................64 Nill Lundkvist............................62 RHD 21 years old 5'11" 187 2018 1st round 28 NY Rangers Caden Addison.........................52 Victor Soderstrom.....................48 Brandt Clarke............................42 Jamie Drysdale.........................12 RHD 19 years old 5'11'' 175 2020 1st round 6 Anaheim Moritz Seider ..............................5 RHD 20 years old 6'3" 208 2019 1st round 6 Detroit There are a few, just out side of the top 100 that I am reminded of Wilde, Morrow, Mailloux, Woo (Not sure where any of them would rank in a top 200? But if we are trying to trade for any of them, his gives you something to consider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Jet Woo. He’s the best. Then it’s a BIG DROP OFF from him. Thank God in Heaven we have a GM (yes, I know. He’s a Chipmunk) who will understand Woo is the best prospect out there, and we have him. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, Alflives said: Jet Woo. He’s the best. Then it’s a BIG DROP OFF from him. Thank God in Heaven we have a GM (yes, I know. He’s a Chipmunk) who will understand Woo is the best prospect out there, and we have him. Put down the scotch you're getting Woozy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said: Here are all the ranked Right Hand Dman + Our Own Jack Rathbone for context The Hockey Writers Jan. 11, 2022 Mid season Top 100 players not in the NHL (Drafted) Helge Grans............................90 RHD 19 years old 6'3" 206 2020 2nd round 35OA LA Kings Justin Barrons.........................81 RHD 20 years old 6'2" 195 2020 1st round 25OA Colorado Victor Soderstrom...................71 RHD 20 years old 6'0" 182 2019 1st round 11 OA Arizona Jacob Docker-Bernard............66 RHD 21 years old 6'0" 187 2018 1st round 26 OA Ottawa Jack Rathbone.......................60 LHD 22 years old 5'11" 190 2017 4th round 95 OA Vancouver Calen Addison.........................45 RHD 21 years old 5'10" 178 2018 2nd round 53 OA Minnesota Braden Schneider....................41 RHD 19 years old 6'2" 202 2020 1st round 19 OA NYRangers Brandt Clarke...........................13 RHD 18 years old 6'2" 185 2021 1st round 8 OA LA Kings Here is Drive4Five October, 2021 Preseason Rankings Top 100 players not in the NHL (Drafted) Brock Faber..............................89 RHD 19 years old 6'0" 190 2020 2nd round 45 LA Kings Josh Brook...............................81 RHD 22 years old 6'2" 185 2017 2nd round 56 Montreal Justin Barrons..........................75 Braden Schneider.....................69 Jacob Docker-Bernard............. 66 Jack Rathbone........................64 Nill Lundkvist............................62 RHD 21 years old 5'11" 187 2018 1st round 28 NY Rangers Caden Addison.........................52 Victor Soderstrom.....................48 Brandt Clarke............................42 Jamie Drysdale.........................12 RHD 19 years old 5'11'' 175 2020 1st round 6 Anaheim Moritz Seider ..............................5 RHD 20 years old 6'3" 208 2019 1st round 6 Detroit There are a few, just out side of the top 100 that I am reminded of Wilde, Morrow, Mailloux, Woo (Not sure where any of them would rank in a top 200? But if we are trying to trade for any of them, his gives you something to consider LA is deep with good RHD prospects Clarke, Grans, Durzi, Spence, Faber are all solid I would pay a high price for Clarke who leads the OHL in scoring from the blueline in his D+1 kid's still only 18 could probably use another year to simmer. Seeing as the Rockets are my local WHL team I gotta give a shout out to Lassi Thompson and Kaden Korkzak. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick the Warrior Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I think the two RHD I would target would be Soderstrom and Lundkvist as they both have upside and are young and also not going to cost a ransom in a trade, like Lundkvist would most likely be included in the package for JT Miller and Soderstrom doesn’t seem to be untouchable if they are willing to trade Chychrun then Soderstrom is not out of the question and could be traded for Rathbone as the Coyotes were interested in him the last two offseasons in the OEL trade speculation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Odjick 4 Premier said: I think the two RHD I would target would be Soderstrom and Lundkvist as they both have upside and are young and also not going to cost a ransom in a trade, like Lundkvist would most likely be included in the package for JT Miller and Soderstrom doesn’t seem to be untouchable if they are willing to trade Chychrun then Soderstrom is not out of the question and could be traded for Rathbone as the Coyotes were interested in him the last two offseasons in the OEL trade speculation IMHO, you might be looking for too much offense.............. I think I would be looking at Helge Grans or Barron...the cost might be less than Soderstrom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, hammertime said: Put down the scotch you're getting Woozy. Well it's a better take than Demko sucks, you gotta admit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, hammertime said: LA is deep with good RHD prospects Clarke, Grans, Durzi, Spence, Faber are all solid I would pay a high price for Clarke who leads the OHL in scoring from the blueline in his D+1 kid's still only 18 could probably use another year to simmer. Seeing as the Rockets are my local WHL team I gotta give a shout out to Lassi Thompson and Kaden Korkzak. Another name......Corson Ceulemans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 We're trading Miller to the NYR and Lafrennier is coming back Then we're trading Lafrenier to Montreal for their 2023 lottery protected 1st and Mailleaux to take that headache away from the Habs' spotlight It's all coming together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, Warhippy said: We're trading Miller to the NYR and Lafrennier is coming back Then we're trading Lafrenier to Montreal for their 2023 lottery protected 1st and Mailleaux to take that headache away from the Habs' spotlight It's all coming together you had me until the sex offender part of the deal. NYR does seem like an ideal partner, looking at @J.I.A.H.N's list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 39 minutes ago, JM_ said: you had me until the sex offender part of the deal. NYR does seem like an ideal partner, looking at @J.I.A.H.N's list. Idiot or not....he's a solid prospect and I've little doubts that the new Habs GM would be thrilled to get that headache out of his way. We've seen countless stupid players commit horrible issues as kids and adults. If we can rehab this kid AND get a lottery protected high pick it an unrestricted pick the following year from a team that will be picking highly for a few seasons.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Idiot or not....he's a solid prospect and I've little doubts that the new Habs GM would be thrilled to get that headache out of his way. We've seen countless stupid players commit horrible issues as kids and adults. If we can rehab this kid AND get a lottery protected high pick it an unrestricted pick the following year from a team that will be picking highly for a few seasons.... we can aim higher. The difference between this kid and Kane, is this kid was convicted. Hard pass for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JM_ said: we can aim higher. The difference between this kid and Kane, is this kid was convicted. Hard pass for me. Pass all you'd like. He;s still a very solid prospect in his position and while I also would hesitate if we could obtain a quality return of an RHD prospect AND Laff with a pick, then dangle Laff to the Habs and get their 1st and yet another D prospect we do that and smile. Just because we'd obtain him doesn't mean we would have keep him either. But optics and issues aside this kid is still a very gifted RHD prospect, the type of which nets returns in this league. He could then be a part of yet another trade or we could slap him in to respectability and see if he works out. To be honest, imaginary trades aside. I feel as though Mailloux would be a piece the Habs might release very easily for a loss just to get it out from under their umbrella. Edit*. Keeping in mind this kid willingly pulled himself from the draft and asked teams NOT to draft him at all based on his conduct. The Habs stunned everyone by doing what no other team wanted to. Willingly taking yourself out of the draft and asking teams to not select you based on your conduct after even pleading guilty shows that this kid knows he messed up and was willing to accept everything he got from it. There's hope for him Edited January 26, 2022 by Warhippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I wouldn't touch Mailloux even without the character issues. Too many issues with his defensive game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Pass all you'd like. He;s still a very solid prospect in his position and while I also would hesitate if we could obtain a quality return of an RHD prospect AND Laff with a pick, then dangle Laff to the Habs and get their 1st and yet another D prospect we do that and smile. Just because we'd obtain him doesn't mean we would have keep him either. But optics and issues aside this kid is still a very gifted RHD prospect, the type of which nets returns in this league. He could then be a part of yet another trade or we could slap him in to respectability and see if he works out. To be honest, imaginary trades aside. I feel as though Mailloux would be a piece the Habs might release very easily for a loss just to get it out from under their umbrella. Edit*. Keeping in mind this kid willingly pulled himself from the draft and asked teams NOT to draft him at all based on his conduct. The Habs stunned everyone by doing what no other team wanted to. Willingly taking yourself out of the draft and asking teams to not select you based on your conduct after even pleading guilty shows that this kid knows he messed up and was willing to accept everything he got from it. There's hope for him I get it, I do. Its just not something I'd want to see happen. I suppose we could always flip him to LA now that Bergevin is there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, JM_ said: you had me until the sex offender part of the deal. NYR does seem like an ideal partner, looking at @J.I.A.H.N's list. The guy shared nude photos of a girl he slept with right? While abhorrent pretty sure this is going on all the damn time these days. He was young and this is something you can come back from in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, JM_ said: I get it, I do. Its just not something I'd want to see happen. I suppose we could always flip him to LA now that Bergevin is there I like that idea as well. There;s another former D prospect that nobody wanted who made NUMEROUS statements about skin colour and orientation etc and was not remorseful at all. He's currently in Carolina. Doing just fine. He was drafted by Tampa and then used as a trade chip, I'd do that with Mailloux. If he can be rehabbed or is actually growing as a human he'd also be a fine point producing RHD which we do not have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Gnarcore said: The guy shared nude photos of a girl he slept with right? While abhorrent pretty sure this is going on all the damn time these days. He was young and this is something you can come back from in my opinion. Actually while she was giving him an oral treat. The biggest issues are the invasion of privacy plus the fact while he was 18 the girl was in fact underaged. So there's a number of disgusting situations that were addressed in criminal court over his actions. I do not condone, accept or respect them but I also know how stupid 18 year olds are and how many mistakes I made before growing up. Mistakes in this day and age which would have me ostracized from society. This kid is a point producing RHD, we don't and many NHL teams don't have that. Defensive lapses can be taught, but that level of pure skill can't. I also have a feeling that he'd be a very cheap pick up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, Warhippy said: Actually while she was giving him an oral treat. The biggest issues are the invasion of privacy plus the fact while he was 18 the girl was in fact underaged. So there's a number of disgusting situations that were addressed in criminal court over his actions. I do not condone, accept or respect them but I also know how stupid 18 year olds are and how many mistakes I made before growing up. Mistakes in this day and age which would have me ostracized from society. This kid is a point producing RHD, we don't and many NHL teams don't have that. Defensive lapses can be taught, but that level of pure skill can't. I also have a feeling that he'd be a very cheap pick up. I agree an 18 year old making a mistake such as this I can look past if the right steps are made. Underage? Like how old? Because 16 is whatever...14 or 15...not so good but the latter happened all the time when I was a teen. Now if 13...gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: The guy shared nude photos of a girl he slept with right? While abhorrent pretty sure this is going on all the damn time these days. He was young and this is something you can come back from in my opinion. I guess having a daughter about that age makes me want to smack him more than forgive him. I think he's shown who he is. If others think he deserves a 2nd chance thats fine, I just don't agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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