eeeeergh Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Wonder if we could take the opportunity to package OEL with Garland and take on some salary in return? I bet we could get at least a 1st round pick. Something like this: OEL and Garland for: Player Name, Beagle, Roussel, 1st round pick Get er done GM PA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I would only trade Garland for someone like Alex Tuch (though no idea why Buffalo would be interested in that trade). Otherwise, I think he has more value staying on the team. Good cap hit, young enough,, and love his effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 56 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Respectfully, this is not a correct observation. Rutherford's job, like any other GM, is to evaluate and re-evaluate the team. He may not be the GM, but it's obvious that he's still the one calling the shots. There is no 'validating' of anything, given that the team is actually doing a lot better than earlier in the season. The major difference? The removal of a coach that has never (thus far) proven that he is a winning one. As of right now, Rutherford has done very little to 'fix' this current roster, which begs the question, why are we pretending that Rutherford is the saviour? He has literally done nothing to the roster. He has hired a new GM and an assistant GM, but neither of them have made a single trade yet (nor should they do so right now). It's rather disingenous to state that this roster is "poorly constructed", yet this team is playing a lot better under a competent coach. Yeah, I don't think the roster is as bad as their record is. This hole that they're in right now is due to the numerous losses they took at the beginning of the season. How does a poorly constructed roster go 11-4-4 in 19 games under a new coach? That makes no sense. If our team sucked it would reflect in our record. It's not like Boudreau can simply come in and turn the Abbotsford Canucks into Stanley Cup contenders. If we are 11-4-4 in our last `19 games with half the team having to miss games due to COVID that tells me we have a well constructed roster that just needs some tweaking. Those Garland rumours are just rumours. Same with Miller. JR is obviously testing the waters to see what is out there. As he should. Doesn't mean he's gonna pull the trigger and trade a core player. It's all speculation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, eeeeergh said: Wonder if we could take the opportunity to package OEL with Garland and take on some salary in return? I bet we could get at least a 1st round pick. Something like this: OEL and Garland for: Player Name, Beagle, Roussel, 1st round pick Get er done GM PA! For ARZ 1st round pick in 2023 unprotected DEAL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Those Garland rumours are just rumours. Same with Miller. JR is obviously testing the waters to see what is out there. As he should. Doesn't mean he's gonna pull the trigger and trade a core player. It's all speculation at this point. Can't wait for the Horvat rumours too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 i would prefer getting call for Petterson / Boeser. Miller and Garland need to be kept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: Can't wait for the Horvat rumours too He's not part of the discussions Rutherford is having with other teams and neither is Pettersson but Garland is per Friedman. Surely teams have called on Horvat and/or Pettersson which implies that Rutherford is not interested in trading either Horvat or Pettersson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: Respectfully, this is not a correct observation. Rutherford's job, like any other GM, is to evaluate and re-evaluate the team. He may not be the GM, but it's obvious that he's still the one calling the shots. There is no 'validating' of anything, given that the team is actually doing a lot better than earlier in the season. The major difference? The removal of a coach that has never (thus far) proven that he is a winning one. As of right now, Rutherford has done very little to 'fix' this current roster, which begs the question, why are we pretending that Rutherford is the saviour? He has literally done nothing to the roster. He has hired a new GM and an assistant GM, but neither of them have made a single trade yet (nor should they do so right now). It's rather disingenous to state that this roster is "poorly constructed", yet this team is playing a lot better under a competent coach. Yeah, I don't think the roster is as bad as their record is. This hole that they're in right now is due to the numerous losses they took at the beginning of the season. Friedman just said that Rutherford is talking to teams about multiple forwards including possibly Garland (but says not Pettersson or Horvat) and that now that the front office is in place he thinks that Rutherford is about to get going in trying to reshape the Canucks. On his podcast, Friedman said that teams have told him that Rutherford let them know that there are things they are considering doing. Rutherford in his pressers has also implied that Vancouver are not built to be contenders just yet - talks of how he wants to get younger, faster and have a team that can come together in a couple of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, mll said: He's not part of the discussions Rutherford is having with other teams and neither is Pettersson but Garland is per Friedman. Surely teams have called on Horvat and/or Pettersson which implies that Rutherford is not interested in trading either Horvat or Pettersson. Sounds right... Called it a few weeks back. Thought Garland could be in play. They want to get bigger and faster, but in order to do so they need to use a player of some sort of value. Also, despite what Friedman says, everyone is tradable if the price is right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Love Garland. If JR decides to trade him, we better be getting a 1st and an A prospect back - at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBossy Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Using JRs vision for this team moving Garland makes no sense - if anything you are moving guys like Myers if you want to get younger and faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I'm fine with the trade. The team is maxed out and from what we have seen they are a bubble team at best. A retool needs to be done. So if Garland can get a nice return to help build for the not to distant future, I don't see what not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, MikeBossy said: Using JRs vision for this team moving Garland makes no sense - if anything you are moving guys like Myers if you want to get younger and faster. You aren't going to get much for Myers. Especially for a player that is younger and faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_of_94 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 59 minutes ago, iinatcc said: You aren't going to get much for Myers. Especially for a player that is younger and faster. Especially at that contract and how soft he is for that size. I think there could be a small market for him if the Canucks retain 30-50%. But I wouldn’t expect the offers to be mind blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 The team right now is pretty good. Problem is, it will be difficult to actually improve it in any meaningful way. After trading our last two 1st round picks, we have no top prospects coming to support this group. And our cap situation won't allow us to add big-name free agents either. There are short-term things that could happen. If next year Pettersson regains his old form, and Podkolzin takes massive leaps in development, then maybe they could become a true contender. But that creates new problems when those players need extensions. Our prospect pool is a mess. (For example, we had 1 player at this year's WJCs - the Carolina Hurricanes had 10.) Any kind of sustainable success will require massive boost there. Trading one good player that is highly coveted - be that Miller, or Garland - is really the only way to do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 we want to lower our cap but not weaken the on ice product too much. boeser and pearson and poolman and hamonic make the most sense to me. a nice d-man for boeser and picks for the other three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2023 1st round pick and blue chip prospect... Go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hero11 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Hearing talks of Garland to NJ for Ty Smith and picks. More to come later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 12 hours ago, Chris12345 said: Well exactly other teams probably call about Hughes too. You're a bad GM if you don't. Doesn't mean it has legs. "Want to trade 43?" "Eff off" "How about Garland?" "I'm listening" I do feel JR will pull something wild though. yup grandpa Jim is a wild card. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the discussions going on now in that office. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, hero11 said: Hearing talks of Garland to NJ for Ty Smith and picks. More to come later. Ty Smith? Would rather just keep Garland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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