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13 minutes ago, tas said:

I mean ... sure, I guess. 

 

if it makes you feel better, by all means, roll with your principles, but you're not going to make enough of a dent in the canucks tv ratings that the league notices the trend that hawks games are a suck on their ad revenue. the only person really missing out is you on watching your team 

 

I'd say you'd be better served watching the game and hoping for a 10-0 blowout, but that's just one man's opinion. 

I alone won't make a dent of course. It would take thousands to follow suit, which I know won't happen.

 

In general people much prefer to do what's easy/comfortable, rather than stick up for what they believe in.

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1 hour ago, Master Mind said:

At the bare minimum:

 

-Heavier financial fine.

-Loss of significant draft picks.

 

More that I feel should be done:

 

-Suspensions to players active at the time.

-Names removed from Stanley Cup.

-Cup rings returned. Materials resold with funds going towards the victims.

I understand the desire to see guilty people punished, but I believe that innocent people shouldn't be affected. Losing significant draft picks would substantially hurt Chicagos chances of building a competitive team. Is that fair to players who weren't on the team during what had happened to Kyle Beach? Is it fair to the fans who had no idea what was happening. I don't think players who have had nothing to do with a teams past mistakes should be stuck playing for said team that has had draft picks or salary cap space taken away from the league because of the mistakes of the their predecessors.

 

In my opinion, what had happened should be criminal, those who were involved in the worst way should be held responsible under the law.

The ownership group should be held accountable, any profits earned not being used for maintenance of the team/arena should be donated to charities that help victims of sexual assault. If Chicago makes say 50 million in profits all those profits should be forfeit and redistributed to worthy causes. Perhaps the NHL should have a rule in which owners lose their right to run the franchise if they are guilty of hiding or covering up criminal activity within their teams.

 

I believe that stripping names of players who knew but were silent from the Stanley Cup is also appropriate. 

I just worry that stripping picks is really just punishing fans and players who had nothing to do with it and or no knowledge of it  more than those most responsible, 

Ownership still goes home to fat mansions, Joe Quenville still gets to live in a nice home in the lap of luxury. Yet new up and coming players may have their shots at winning a cup hampered because of the mistakes of people whos luxurious lifestyles remain unaffected by stripping picks.

 

Punishment should be handed out, but not punishment that affects people who had nothing to do with what had happened to Beach.

Its a terrible situation, I just want to see the people responsible punished, not the people who weren't,

 

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Just now, Ghostsof1915 said:

You can't be grumpy having Roast Beef and Yorkshire pudding!!!!!!!!!

I'll always be grumpy...until the Canucks win the Cup at least once. ( preferably 2ce in 3 years, but I'll settle for once before I die)

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4 minutes ago, VC420 said:

I understand the desire to see guilty people punished, but I believe that innocent people shouldn't be affected. Losing significant draft picks would substantially hurt Chicagos chances of building a competitive team. Is that fair to players who weren't on the team during what had happened to Kyle Beach? Is it fair to the fans who had no idea what was happening. I don't think players who have had nothing to do with a teams past mistakes should be stuck playing for said team that has had draft picks or salary cap space taken away from the league because of the mistakes of the their predecessors.

 

In my opinion, what had happened should be criminal, those who were involved in the worst way should be held responsible under the law.

The ownership group should be held accountable, any profits earned not being used for maintenance of the team/arena should be donated to charities that help victims of sexual assault. If Chicago makes say 50 million in profits all those profits should be forfeit and redistributed to worthy causes. Perhaps the NHL should have a rule in which owners lose their right to run the franchise if they are guilty of hiding or covering up criminal activity within their teams.

 

I believe that stripping names of players who knew but were silent from the Stanley Cup is also appropriate. 

I just worry that stripping picks is really just punishing fans and players who had nothing to do with it and or no knowledge of it  more than those most responsible, 

Ownership still goes home to fat mansions, Joe Quenville still gets to live in a nice home in the lap of luxury. Yet new up and coming players may have their shots at winning a cup hampered because of the mistakes of people whos luxurious lifestyles remain unaffected by stripping picks.

 

Punishment should be handed out, but not punishment that affects people who had nothing to do with what had happened to Beach.

Its a terrible situation, I just want to see the people responsible punished, not the people who weren't,

 

Can't say I disagree with you much here.

 

My mentality is that Chicago didn't deserve their 2010 cup, and their 2010 cup led to their next two cups. The fans got to celebrate plenty of undeserved success, so I wouldn't feel bad if they have to endure a Chicago Cubs level drought.

 

It's a fair point that losing draft picks would hurt the new players. It would be fantastic to see these prospects demand trades to more respectable franchises, but that won't happen. The main reason I mentioned loss of draft picks is that it was a punishment the league could have easily handed out.

 

If what you suggested were to happen, which I agree with, then no loss of draft picks would be required. I'd even add that Toews and Kane should have to donate a considerable amount of their paycheck to those charities. Neither would be making 10.5m if they didn't win those cups.

 

Unfortunately we won't see justice.

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5 minutes ago, VC420 said:

I understand the desire to see guilty people punished, but I believe that innocent people shouldn't be affected. Losing significant draft picks would substantially hurt Chicagos chances of building a competitive team. Is that fair to players who weren't on the team during what had happened to Kyle Beach? Is it fair to the fans who had no idea what was happening. I don't think players who have had nothing to do with a teams past mistakes should be stuck playing for said team that has had draft picks or salary cap space taken away from the league because of the mistakes of the their predecessors.

 

In my opinion, what had happened should be criminal, those who were involved in the worst way should be held responsible under the law.

The ownership group should be held accountable, any profits earned not being used for maintenance of the team/arena should be donated to charities that help victims of sexual assault. If Chicago makes say 50 million in profits all those profits should be forfeit and redistributed to worthy causes. Perhaps the NHL should have a rule in which owners lose their right to run the franchise if they are guilty of hiding or covering up criminal activity within their teams.

 

I believe that stripping names of players who knew but were silent from the Stanley Cup is also appropriate. 

I just worry that stripping picks is really just punishing fans and players who had nothing to do with it and or no knowledge of it  more than those most responsible, 

Ownership still goes home to fat mansions, Joe Quenville still gets to live in a nice home in the lap of luxury. Yet new up and coming players may have their shots at winning a cup hampered because of the mistakes of people whos luxurious lifestyles remain unaffected by stripping picks.

 

Punishment should be handed out, but not punishment that affects people who had nothing to do with what had happened to Beach.

Its a terrible situation, I just want to see the people responsible punished, not the people who weren't,

 

Though I don't agree with all of your details, I agree generally with the thought process.

 

Much as I would love to hand Chicago the keys to the cellar forever more, I think you have to unravel all the gory details, meaning all the terrible things that were done, including the coverups, et al.

 

Only then would you be able to determine who would be charged for what, and from there to apply suitable sentencing.

 

You cannot go after the league if they were unaware; but otherwise, go after the guilty and perhaps it goes right to the stinking top.

 

I'd love to see Drac & Dumpty squirming in court.

 

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4 hours ago, 24K PureCool said:

Note: Trade everyone not named Hughes and Demko. :lol:

Hey , sometimes I don't think that's too far off base. This team is so Jekyl and Hyde its weird. Most of the players , not named Hughes or Demko, play pretty inconsistent. Miller has been one of our most consistent ,most of the time, and then he pulls one of those "pouty plays" like he did last game. Garland was a spark plug for awhile and he has cooled off, as has Podz and Hogs. 

Petey sometimes looks "fired up" and then he disappears again. Boeser looks like he can't buy a goal after having that chemistry with Miller which seemed to have been working for awhile.

Bo? , well he can be a hero one day and then, nothing. 

I am liking the energy generated by the likes of Motte, Highmore and Lammikko but there just seems to be a lacking of character in the top 6 , especially when the game is not going well and a "spark" is needed to get the team going. I find games boring and not very entertaining when we have so many players that play with very little emotion most games. We need another Burr. ::D

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1 minute ago, PuckTruckCanuck said:

It Feels like Boudreau isn’t in it to win it Demko could easily play back to back after the amount of time he’s had off. 
At this point every game is a playoff game you gotta play your best roster.

showing Halak off for potential GM's to trade for

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Just now, PuckTruckCanuck said:

It Feels like Boudreau isn’t in it to win it Demko could easily play back to back after the amount of time he’s had off. 
At this point every game is a playoff game you gotta play your best roster.

Gonna need Halak to play the odd game. Can’t have him sit for a month. It’s another week off after these 2 games 

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