N4ZZY Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: It’s weird to look around the league and just envy all these teams with 25-30 goal scorers and then look at our players with 10-15. Just seems so unfair. The scoring comes so easy for this those teams and it feels like pulling teeth to get more than 2 for ours. Why is it such a struggle in Van? A down year for this club for sure. I think Green and his coaching staff had a lot to do with that. I also think the construct of the roster by Benning and Weisbrod has a lot to do with the fact that we’re not as good as we should be. It’s hard to pin it on just one thing. I actually think it’s several things. Thank goodness we have our 1st round pick for the 2022 draft. Imagine if that was traded away…. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Viper007 said: Confidence. Can thank Travis Green for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper007 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Can thank Travis Green for that. The funny thing is everybody was complaining about Newell Brown and his drop pass entry, yet he's gone and they're still doing it, yet nobody is complaining ...... kinda weird IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Viper007 said: The funny thing is everybody was complaining about Newell Brown and his drop pass entry, yet he's gone and they're still doing it, yet nobody is complaining ...... kinda weird IMO. I’m complaining about everything on the PP 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Viper007 said: The funny thing is everybody was complaining about Newell Brown and his drop pass entry, yet he's gone and they're still doing it, yet nobody is complaining ...... kinda weird IMO. Yeah, that is weird. LOL it’s been ingrained in the players to do the drop pass entry. At the end of the day, we may need new personnel coming in. This team just isn’t very good. Before tonight’s game against Nashville though, we were 1 game above .500. Who would have thought that could have happened considering the start to the year under Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, Viper007 said: The funny thing is everybody was complaining about Newell Brown and his drop pass entry, yet he's gone and they're still doing it, yet nobody is complaining ...... kinda weird IMO. We have complained about that so many times... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) The Canucks seem to always find a way to kill their own momentum. Giving up the short handed goal was bad, but Miller taking a lazy slashing penalty that lead to their third goal killed what should have been their time to take over the game. They need to be better at managing momentum swings in games. After tying it at two they needed to just play a safe smart game and not give the Preds any openings. Once they gave them that powerplay and ultimately the third goal it was over. Nashville took the momentum and the home crowd energy and didn’t look back. Need to be much smarter on the road in those situations. Sometimes boring hockey is best. And discipline is obviously crucial. Edited February 2, 2022 by DeNiro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, DefCon1 said: Josh Anderson? How about no Boeser should be traded for Schneider from NYR. I'm seeing more and more that Canucks fans are tired of Boeser's lack of scoring. If we're fed up with it why would the playoff competing Rangers want him during a down year? Especially with his qualifying offer? Makes no sense, they aren't going to want a financial wildcard who's having a down season at this point in their cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dank.sinatra Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I'd be open to trading Horvat. Demko and Hughes obviously are untouchable barring a mind blowing offer. I'd be hesitant to trade Pettersson or even Boeser as well. They've both shown they can be elite and it would suck to have them find their game elsewhere and get a low return in a trade. Everyone else is open season imo. Except Schenn. Protect that man at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, DeNiro said: The Canucks seem to always find a way to kill their own momentum. Giving up the short handed goal was bad, but Miller taking a lazy slashing penalty that lead to their third goal killed what should have been their time to take over the game. They need to be better at managing momentum swings in games. After tying it at two they needed to just play a safe smart game and not give the Preds any openings. Once they gave them that powerplay and ultimately the third goal it was over. Nashville took the momentum and the home crowd energy and didn’t look back. Need to be much smarter on the road in those situations. Sometimes boring hockey is best. And discipline is obviously crucial. Miller was also the one that caused the shorthanded goal with one of his many turnovers. EP and QH had a few bad giveaways as well, but hard not to see Miller having multiple really bad ones pretty much every game. That will cost. Miller is a really frustrating player. At times he leads the team, scores game winners etc. but just as often he just glides around and makes mistake like last night. To be creative you need freedom and that involves the odd mistake and turnover, but if you're a leader on the team you gotta make sure you have a positive impact on the game overall. Me for one I'm not interested in Miller's next contract (likely 7 years at 7-8 mil if he stays around PPG). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I'm seeing more and more that Canucks fans are tired of Boeser's lack of scoring. If we're fed up with it why would the playoff competing Rangers want him during a down year? Especially with his qualifying offer? Makes no sense, they aren't going to want a financial wildcard who's having a down season at this point in their cycle. A trade often gives a player a fresh slate and provides an opportunity to clear ones head. Boeser will probably rebound with a trade. I am all for trading a winger not a center. We need effective Centers to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, aGENT said: Imagine if the AVS went that route with a young, struggling MacKinnon... Though the Avs were in a more favorable position. In that MacKinnon was at a 7 year 6.3 million contract. Which means the Avs could afford MacKinnon to struggle for a year. I think he figured it out in the 2nd year of his extension which means the Avs are getting 6 years of Elite MacKinnon. Since I assume we are discussing Pettersson, I think his extension is done in a way you need to maximize his top performance immediately. A really bad scenario is if Pettersson finally returns to an elite level in 3rd year of his contract and will demand a crazy extension. So basically Canucks benefit very little from his top form during the 3 years but now have to sign him to a bigger deal due to his contract yesr Edited February 2, 2022 by iinatcc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: They can’t play .500 hockey and they are. If they end up doing this the rest of the year they miss the playoffs. It’s not realistic. People have to give up on that pipe dream. People don't have to do anything. Sure it's not likely, small odds, but why give up hope? Sheesh if that was the case 90% of our existence we might as well have given up on - including the 94 season, which was touch and go that we'd even make the show. We lost one game last night not the entire season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, FaninMex said: A trade often gives a player a fresh slate and provides an opportunity to clear ones head. Boeser will probably rebound with a trade. I am all for trading a winger not a center. We need effective Centers to compete. Yes, I just don't see New York in particular being interested. A team that could possibly contend sooner than later likely wants more consistency, but I suppose it depends on who's available. Between Boeser and Miller I know who I'd want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, iinatcc said: Though the Avs were in a more favorable position. In that MacKinnon was at a 7 year 6.3 million contract. Which means the Avs could afford MacKinnon to struggle for a year. I think he figured it out in the 2nd year of his extension which means the Avs are getting 6 years of Elite MacKinnon. Since I assume we are discussing Pettersson, I think his extension is done in a way you need to maximize his top performance immediately. A really bad scenario is if Pettersson finally returns to an elite level in 3rd year of his contract and will demand a crazy extension. So basically Canucks benefit very little from his top form during the 3 years but now have to sign him to a bigger deal due to his contract yesr Only if he earns one. Right now he's not earning this deal (EP). Funny how we all thought it was a fair deal at the time (well not me and some others, said he's earned around 6.5-7 x 6 and got totally roasted for it ... more to the game then just putting up points and aside from the first few months as a rookie we haven't seen elite since ... 7.35 x 3 but close enough i suppose). I'm sure he will figure things out thought. Needs to be productive on the PP... 5 x 5 is actually pretty bad...To me I think his injuries have made him a timid player one on one and definitely on the boards. 4 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Can thank Travis Green for that. Green got effort from his players at least ... you can't blame Green for everything. He's gone but the same players are here, and "bad habits" Green may or may not of instilled should be gone by now anyways. That's two months of hockey almost now ... and a mini-camp. What we've got now is all on Bruce as far as coaching goes. Covid is gone now too....excuses? Weren't they supposed the be done now this year as well? EP or whomever is playing their game their way not Bruce's not Greens..he needs to get stronger and back to being willing to go to the belly of the beast (tough areas) without hesitating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 hours ago, SergioMomesso said: I’m complaining about everything on the PP Yes it's pretty bad isn't it? Sucks the wind out of a team ... at least our PK is much better under Bruce (room for improvement but still much better)...We aren't scoring enough 5 x 5 either. Players will need a couple games to shake their rust off after covid as well. We aren't out of the playoffs yet - but it sure is looking further and further away too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) It's games like this against teams above us in the standings that a giggle when people on here talk about a playoff run. This team isn't ready, we don't have the depth, we don't have offensive capabilities and we don't have the blue line for it. This isn't a reaction after one loss, but what I've seen all year. We are getting closer and I like our young players but we are a .500 team and our roster needs work. We are 100% more exciting to watch under Boudreau, but we can't expect to win by playing well defensively, scoring 1-2 goals per game and having a disaster of a powerplay. Fun drinking game: Every time Pettersson falls, take a shot. Edited February 2, 2022 by Harold Drunken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 9 hours ago, Viper007 said: Josh Anderson hasn't done anything close to what Petey or BB has done. He's not a consistent scorer either. I would pass. Id take josh anderson in a second for boeser. The team lacks drivers with size and anderson is still young with goal scoring ability. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph. Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said: Fun drinking game: Every time Pettersson falls, take a shot. Ah yes, the old Mason Raymond game! Edited February 2, 2022 by Ralph. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I think the idea of moving Bo is going to start to get more traction. The entire top6 was bungholy last night. Maybe EP is the only one that i cant see being potentially on the block. He has to hit less post and more back of the net though. Also, I know it was his fist game back but man did Pearson look slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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