A Review of GMJB's Trades - He Did Well!

[Fred65]

3 hours ago, IBatch said:

Well next time you post bring a shovel.  I lost you as soon as you went into the realm of other GMs.   He missed on a fifth and drafted a problem player whom at the time, was right on the par line for a sixth overall on average.   He'd have passed the par line this year if he wasn't a pervert.    I've been following NHL hockey since the late 70's.   If you think JB is the amongst the worst ever - you'd be in for a sad sorry surprise.    He wasn't great he wasn't terrible either - but i suppose that's tough for kids who grew up under the Burke/Nonis/MG era. Make me 3 GMs who forced a player to give up their NMC or full trade clause.  Didn't Garrison want to leave?   I know being a Canucks fans isn't easy - but we were pretty spoiled for a long time.   How's Detroit and Holland doing anyways?  At least he actually gave up firsts year after year and got results.   

Did he pass the shovel to you by chnace  Benning was an unmitigated disaster. Not only did he make some bad decissions but he never learned and repeated them again and again. I feel bad for Rutherford trying to put the club back on the road to success, messed up Cap and no prospects of note ( maybe Rathbone aside )

Edited May 20, 2022 by Fred65

[Salacious Crumb]

6 hours ago, combover said:

A Below average GM would have been an improvement over JB.

he was awful he surrounded himself with (a) yes men and tried to do everything himself.
An egomaniac who sold garbage excuses and pathetic catch phrases.errr ummm errr umm foundational…..

only thing I miss about JB is the level of stupid he brought to pressers and how many people bought the trash he was selling. 
 

PA/JR are surrounding this club with well respect smart people with differing views and expertise  the way smart successful businesses do. 

the new management  team has their hands full trying to fix the 7+ seasons of stupid. 

 

 

 

[Baggins]

13 hours ago, IBatch said:

They sold before they had contracts coming up.     Smart.   I agree with everything you said.  And for all those JB haters - they never seem to understand that once your team is locked in - full NMC and NTC's right down to guys like Hansen lol - the next GM has absolutely zero chance until the team sucks enough and the guys are willing to waive.   The Sedins didn't.   Neither did Edler.    Hamhuis waffled and that's a point of contention for some to this day.   Only Burrows, Hansen and Bieksa did - all three of them going to at the time good teams (Burrows to a team that just almost went to the final) but they were far far away from the same players they used to be.   

Hansen had a limited ntc and luckily one of the teams on his list was interested. Burrows didn't submit a list and said if it works for his family he'd waive. Again, luckily Ottawa wanted him and that was near perfect for his family. Hamhuis gave two teams and one wasn't interested. The had him as second choice and got their first choice. Miller didn't get moved with his contract expiring either. None of the Cali teams were interested at the deadline and he wouldn't waive for anybody else. These things happen. Players have also refused to waive with years left on their deal. Again, these things happen and has nothing to do with "too late". When it comes to ntc's it's in the players hands and no guarantee teams he's willing to go to are interested.

[IBatch]

6 hours ago, Baggins said:

Hansen had a limited ntc and luckily one of the teams on his list was interested. Burrows didn't submit a list and said if it works for his family he'd waive. Again, luckily Ottawa wanted him and that was near perfect for his family. Hamhuis gave two teams and one wasn't interested. The had him as second choice and got their first choice. Miller didn't get moved with his contract expiring either. None of the Cali teams were interested at the deadline and he wouldn't waive for anybody else. These things happen. Players have also refused to waive with years left on their deal. Again, these things happen and has nothing to do with "too late". When it comes to ntc's it's in the players hands and no guarantee teams he's willing to go to are interested.

Exactly.   Bieksa too.   Of that teams entire core and support players, only three actually were ok with it (or worked out), well past their primes.  How's a team supposed to get a boost of picks and returns?   Team was always going to take a long time to get a new core going, never bottomed out, barely any help from one of the best teams we've ever had (a couple seconds, etc etc etc) 

[Fred65]

I was watching Forsling in the Panther V's the Lightning. Looks very good

 

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Edited May 23, 2022 by Fred65

[Hairy Kneel]

Good pass on Tanev and Markstrom.

10.5M  One injury prone and another with that soft goal problems. 

[iinatcc]

14 hours ago, Fred65 said:

I was watching Forsling in the Panther V's the Lightning. Looks very good

 

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Haven't you heard? The trend now is to blame Forsling for the Panthers being down 3-0 in the series to Tampa 

 

[Ballisticsports.]

6 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Good pass on Tanev and Markstrom.

10.5M  One injury prone and another with that soft goal problems. 

I had confidence in Demko (who excelled at every level)

The blunder was NOT getting anything in return for those players if your not keeping them

Doubtful this new management goes well into a season with core ufa players unsigned as a distraction and then have illusions they will win the cup and lose the players for nothing

[Hairy Kneel]

28 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said:

I had confidence in Demko (who excelled at every level)

The blunder was NOT getting anything in return for those players if your not keeping them

Doubtful this new management goes well into a season with core ufa players unsigned as a distraction and then have illusions they will win the cup and lose the players for nothing

Well that expansion draft didn't help either. 

[lmm]

5 hours ago, ba;;isticsports said:

I had confidence in Demko (who excelled at every level)

The blunder was NOT getting anything in return for those players if your not keeping them

Doubtful this new management goes well into a season with core ufa players unsigned as a distraction and then have illusions they will win the cup and lose the players for nothing

that was the mistake of "going all in for the playoffs"

"Going all in" should be saved for the Cup

[Baggins]

22 hours ago, Fred65 said:

I was watching Forsling in the Panther V's the Lightning. Looks very good

 

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He just took too long to get there. He never secured a fulltime role with Chicago and failed to make the Canes roster. Florida claimed him off waivers from the Canes.

[DSVII]

17 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Good pass on Tanev and Markstrom.

10.5M  One injury prone and another with that soft goal problems. 

Good pass on markstrom not tanev. They aren't joined at the hip.

 

Losing Tanev handicapped Hughes the following seasons. It was a gross misjudgement of the roster.

[Hairy Kneel]

4 minutes ago, DSVII said:

Good pass on markstrom not tanev. They aren't joined at the hip.

 

Losing Tanev handicapped Hughes the following seasons. It was a gross misjudgement of the roster.

 

[DSVII]

4 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

 

Green's permissive turtling shot against system + the rehab team that was just let go. This is a management oversight.. 

 

Even then, I'll still take 50 games of top 2 level RHD shutdown play + the extra 3 mil in cap over what we replaced him with. 

Edited May 24, 2022 by DSVII