Salacious Crumb Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 6 hours ago, combover said: A Below average GM would have been an improvement over JB. he was awful he surrounded himself with (a) yes men and tried to do everything himself. An egomaniac who sold garbage excuses and pathetic catch phrases.errr ummm errr umm foundational….. only thing I miss about JB is the level of stupid he brought to pressers and how many people bought the trash he was selling. PA/JR are surrounding this club with well respect smart people with differing views and expertise the way smart successful businesses do. the new management team has their hands full trying to fix the 7+ seasons of stupid. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 13 hours ago, IBatch said: They sold before they had contracts coming up. Smart. I agree with everything you said. And for all those JB haters - they never seem to understand that once your team is locked in - full NMC and NTC's right down to guys like Hansen lol - the next GM has absolutely zero chance until the team sucks enough and the guys are willing to waive. The Sedins didn't. Neither did Edler. Hamhuis waffled and that's a point of contention for some to this day. Only Burrows, Hansen and Bieksa did - all three of them going to at the time good teams (Burrows to a team that just almost went to the final) but they were far far away from the same players they used to be. Hansen had a limited ntc and luckily one of the teams on his list was interested. Burrows didn't submit a list and said if it works for his family he'd waive. Again, luckily Ottawa wanted him and that was near perfect for his family. Hamhuis gave two teams and one wasn't interested. The had him as second choice and got their first choice. Miller didn't get moved with his contract expiring either. None of the Cali teams were interested at the deadline and he wouldn't waive for anybody else. These things happen. Players have also refused to waive with years left on their deal. Again, these things happen and has nothing to do with "too late". When it comes to ntc's it's in the players hands and no guarantee teams he's willing to go to are interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Baggins said: Hansen had a limited ntc and luckily one of the teams on his list was interested. Burrows didn't submit a list and said if it works for his family he'd waive. Again, luckily Ottawa wanted him and that was near perfect for his family. Hamhuis gave two teams and one wasn't interested. The had him as second choice and got their first choice. Miller didn't get moved with his contract expiring either. None of the Cali teams were interested at the deadline and he wouldn't waive for anybody else. These things happen. Players have also refused to waive with years left on their deal. Again, these things happen and has nothing to do with "too late". When it comes to ntc's it's in the players hands and no guarantee teams he's willing to go to are interested. Exactly. Bieksa too. Of that teams entire core and support players, only three actually were ok with it (or worked out), well past their primes. How's a team supposed to get a boost of picks and returns? Team was always going to take a long time to get a new core going, never bottomed out, barely any help from one of the best teams we've ever had (a couple seconds, etc etc etc) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) I was watching Forsling in the Panther V's the Lightning. Looks very good Gustav Forsling D 71 10 27 37 18 41 Sweden: Linkoping 25 Edited May 23, 2022 by Fred65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Good pass on Tanev and Markstrom. 10.5M One injury prone and another with that soft goal problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 14 hours ago, Fred65 said: I was watching Forsling in the Panther V's the Lightning. Looks very good Gustav Forsling D 71 10 27 37 18 41 Sweden: Linkoping 25 Haven't you heard? The trend now is to blame Forsling for the Panthers being down 3-0 in the series to Tampa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Good pass on Tanev and Markstrom. 10.5M One injury prone and another with that soft goal problems. I had confidence in Demko (who excelled at every level) The blunder was NOT getting anything in return for those players if your not keeping them Doubtful this new management goes well into a season with core ufa players unsigned as a distraction and then have illusions they will win the cup and lose the players for nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said: I had confidence in Demko (who excelled at every level) The blunder was NOT getting anything in return for those players if your not keeping them Doubtful this new management goes well into a season with core ufa players unsigned as a distraction and then have illusions they will win the cup and lose the players for nothing Well that expansion draft didn't help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 5 hours ago, ba;;isticsports said: I had confidence in Demko (who excelled at every level) The blunder was NOT getting anything in return for those players if your not keeping them Doubtful this new management goes well into a season with core ufa players unsigned as a distraction and then have illusions they will win the cup and lose the players for nothing that was the mistake of "going all in for the playoffs" "Going all in" should be saved for the Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 22 hours ago, Fred65 said: I was watching Forsling in the Panther V's the Lightning. Looks very good Gustav Forsling D 71 10 27 37 18 41 Sweden: Linkoping 25 He just took too long to get there. He never secured a fulltime role with Chicago and failed to make the Canes roster. Florida claimed him off waivers from the Canes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 17 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Good pass on Tanev and Markstrom. 10.5M One injury prone and another with that soft goal problems. Good pass on markstrom not tanev. They aren't joined at the hip. Losing Tanev handicapped Hughes the following seasons. It was a gross misjudgement of the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, DSVII said: Good pass on markstrom not tanev. They aren't joined at the hip. Losing Tanev handicapped Hughes the following seasons. It was a gross misjudgement of the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: Green's permissive turtling shot against system + the rehab team that was just let go. This is a management oversight.. Even then, I'll still take 50 games of top 2 level RHD shutdown play + the extra 3 mil in cap over what we replaced him with. Edited May 24, 2022 by DSVII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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